Roman Abramovich

[RodneyCisse]

Chelsea twitter is awful reading mind, some logic that there is a vendetta against the club and nothing to do with their previous owner being part of funding the bombing of childrens hospitals.

[RodneyCisse]

3 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Yeah it’s so ham fisted it’s embarrassing 

How’s the bacon did you say?

[Dan Gleebals]

1 hour ago, Abacus said:

There's a lot to consider - it's quite the moral and intellectual minefield.

 

I'd like to hear the views of Paul Merson and Gabby Agbonlahor.

 

Neither of which have any intellectual capacity or a moral compass, so assume this is joke. 

[Guest HTT II]

6 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

I reckon this will help them sell it a lot cheaper, thus leaving loads of money for some future owner to plough in. It could work out to be the best alternative to actually having state backing. The country as a whole will be devastated at the downgrading of Chelsea so I'm sure there'll be plenty of support to help them stay at the top.

They might need an injection of cash by a future owner, the longer this goes on I can see sponsors pulling out, players leaving and already I think Chelsea is becoming a toxic ‘brand’ because of Abramovic which might take years to shake off. Maybe the Reubens will buy it or Ratcliffe? 

[Guest neesy111]

26 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

They have paid all of their travel expenses up front (so no issue) 

 

 

 

 

Can't have for CL games, as they don't know where they'll be going to.

[RodneyCisse]

 

Clearly filmed before today’s news but very possibly hilarious take (haven’t watched yet) from Rory.

[OCK]

45 minutes ago, StevieB said:

I think its time to root out the evil owners of Premier League clubs and those that support them.

 

Hands up if you're an evil owner of a Premier League club, please. 

[macphisto]

40 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

There's no winners here, as much as Chelsea fans are a bunch of pigs, they don't deserve to have their club taken away because some loon who seems intent on starting a massive war happens to be mates with their owner.

 

We should know better than most that you can't pick and choose the clubs owner.

I think you can, it's just as a supporter base we decided not to do anything about Ashley.

[Hovagod]

1 minute ago, macphisto said:

I think you can, it's just as a supporter base we decided not to do anything about Ashley.

 

That's a hell of a reach, tbh. 

[macphisto]

10 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

It needs to be restarted from the ground up, the fact this is even happening is a complete disgrace. It’s sickening. I wish someone who was a remotely decent person had the money to put on a rival league. I would watch immediately 

Why don't you support non-league? I'm not trying to be snide when I ask that. 

[Wullie]

18 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:

Chelsea twitter is awful reading mind, some logic that there is a vendetta against the club and nothing to do with their previous owner being part of funding the bombing of childrens hospitals.

 

Sadly I see "it's really just because they hate NUFC!" on here daily.

 

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/yemen-hospital-bombing--number-of-children-killed-rises-to-five

[macphisto]

1 minute ago, Hovagod said:

 

That's a hell of a reach, tbh. 

How? It's true. we didn't do anything meaningful about Ashley during his whole tenure. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought @gjohnson was referring to Ashley.

[RodneyCisse]

1 minute ago, Wullie said:

 

Sadly I see "it's really just because they hate NUFC!" on here daily.

 

https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/yemen-hospital-bombing--number-of-children-killed-rises-to-five

I was thinking about our situation earlier and how horrible some of these owners actually are in the background.

 

We can’t help who were owned by in the same way Chelsea can’t. It all just seems like a massive mess that’s coming to a head.

[christ]

24 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:

Chelsea twitter is awful reading mind, some logic that there is a vendetta against the club and nothing to do with their previous owner being part of funding the bombing of childrens hospitals.

[Guest HTT II]

11 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

It needs to be restarted from the ground up, the fact this is even happening is a complete disgrace. It’s sickening. I wish someone who was a remotely decent person had the money to put on a rival league. I would watch immediately 

It’s been a disgrace for a while and although money and clubs with owners with money even with not a lot has always been part of the game, as has commercialism, always, but that was all organic and come with the invention and development of the game here in the 1800s and at levels that allowed most club owners to be on an even level with one another wealth or influence wise. Today for us to compete we need PIF. Chelsea have needed Abramovic. City their owners and you also have parasite owners like the Glazers, Ashley and chancers lower down like the numpties at Sunderland who take millions out of the game. Plus the greed of players and agents, although the players deserve the most money in the game as they are the product, the ones who put the most effort in, well mostly. 

[macphisto]

I don't quite get the sympathy for Chelsea. Genuinely, I feel more sorry by what's happened at Sunderland where wideboys have been allowed to exploit the club and fed the fans blatant lies (similar to Ashley).

[enthusiast]

anyway now i've got the serious stuff out me system, time for some jokes

 

 

[Hovagod]

6 minutes ago, macphisto said:

How? It's true. we didn't do anything meaningful about Ashley during his whole tenure. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought @gjohnson was referring to Ashley.

 

Fans don't get to choose owners. If we had forced Ashley out we were still not in a position to elect the next owner. 

[Guest HTT II]

11 minutes ago, macphisto said:

I think you can, it's just as a supporter base we decided not to do anything about Ashley.

I think you can oppose a would be new owner and put them off, but when they are already in, it’s hard to get them out. Fans are kind of complicit in this all too because we readily accept stuff it it brings success and money gets spent on players. We all welcomed Ashley…

 

It’s a vicious circle if you like. As bad as Abramovic is as a person, he’s been a great owner for Chelsea which is the sad and ironic thing. It’s the likes of Ashley who are ultimately more worse for the game, if not as bad for the world..

[enthusiast]

9 minutes ago, macphisto said:

Why don't you support non-league? I'm not trying to be snide when I ask that. 

 

i've honestly thought about this (to be completely open, i am at best ambivalent about PIF/the takeover). me local club these days is ajax (not bad like ) and i've got a shot there and it's not took, and i've tried watching amateur football and it's not took and the problem is.. i'm a newcastle fan. always will be. i can't force a love or even an interest in another club, and there's fuck all i can do about it. i'm chained to the buggers for the rest of me life.

[macphisto]

6 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said:

I was thinking about our situation earlier and how horrible some of these owners actually are in the background.

 

We can’t help who were owned by in the same way Chelsea can’t. It all just seems like a massive mess that’s coming to a head.

Of course you have a say in who owns your club. Not all fan bases are like Newcastle's.

 

 

[gjohnson]

5 minutes ago, macphisto said:

How? It's true. we didn't do anything meaningful about Ashley during his whole tenure. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought @gjohnson was referring to Ashley.

No you are correct, but as long as the fans don't have a say in ownership they don't ultimately have  a choice. We could have done every protest/boycott under the sun, but as long as he had they keys there was no real way to force a change in owner.

 

Yes we could have made it more uncomfortable for him, but all he'd have had to have done to avoid that is stay off social media, and not read the papers. End of the day cold hard cash forced his sale, nothing in the media, nothing in Twitter, Facebook or anything like that

[Guest HTT II]

12 minutes ago, macphisto said:

Why don't you support non-league? I'm not trying to be snide when I ask that. 

I’ve tried with Gateshead and been to more home and away games watching them in the last decade probably than I have NUFC (not many, that tells you how little I’ve been present at a NUFC match), and although the craic is great, the football isn’t and it’s hard to just stop showing an interest in a club that’s been basically injected into your veins from birth or earlier on in your life as a kid and will likely always remain your club/team until death, whether you go or not or care any more much.

[macphisto]

4 minutes ago, Hovagod said:

 

Fans don't get to choose owners. If we had forced Ashley out we were still not in a position to elect the next owner. 

You might not get to elect but you do get to reject potential owners. 

 

[Guest HTT II]

2 minutes ago, gjohnson said:

No you are correct, but as long as the fans don't have a say in ownership they don't ultimately have  a choice. We could have done every protest/boycott under the sun, but as long as he had they keys there was no real way to force a change in owner.

 

Yes we could have made it more uncomfortable for him, but all he'd have had to have done to avoid that is stay off social media, and not read the papers. End of the day cold hard cash forced his sale, nothing in the media, nothing in Twitter, Facebook or anything like that

Once he stopped going to home games, he insulated himself from it all really and of course Rafa being the manager stopped some of the dissent/protest.