Yorkie Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I don't like Chelsea but I think any tribal har-har-ing towards them, particularly from the likes of us, is pretty short-sighted. As is always the case with governance issues, it's not just one club losing, it's the whole sport. Chelsea going to ruins would be just as depressing as Macclesfield and Bury going the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) Hope they get a solution fast. There’s too many out there who support and work for the club who shouldn’t be punished for this. Edited March 10, 2022 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 The only reasonable solution to this is to remove all owners and put the clubs in the hands of the fans, which would mean @Greg as Chai... changed my mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Well the right solution is Roman agrees that the sale proceeds are being held by the gov’t and he’s relinquished all claim to it. And the gov’t uses those funds for good (helping with reconstruction of Ukraine, charity, etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kanji said: Well the right solution is Roman agrees that the sale proceeds are being held by the gov’t and he’s relinquished all claim to it. And the gov’t uses those funds for good (helping with reconstruction of Ukraine, charity, etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kanji said: Well the right solution is Roman agrees that the sale proceeds are being held by the gov’t and he’s relinquished all claim to it. And the gov’t uses those funds for good (helping with reconstruction of Ukraine, charity, etc). More likely to restock the wine fridge, sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 A fanbase full of Tories getting their club nationalised is a little bit funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: I would happily relinquish our current wealth if they ripped up football and started again. One hundred percent. Get rid of all the grubbiness. Institute a salary cap, a draft ish system This 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enthusiast Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 full doc, if anyone cares to peruse: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 47 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Chelsea FC is a triviality when it comes to stopping the invasion of Ukraine and preventing the loss of further lives, but the fact that the two are even remotely linked is a total failure in governance from the Premier League. Read this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I would happily relinquish our current wealth if they ripped up football and started again. One hundred percent. Get rid of all the grubbiness. Institute a salary cap, a draft ish system Same here, 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: Read this. I think his new book is out today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Assuming this continues into the summer, I'm sure there would there be more than a few players looking to leave Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, OCK said: So... Everton have a Russian Oligarch backer too, aye? I think its time to root out the evil owners of Premier League clubs and those that support them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 My own take is long-term this will not effect Chelsea that much or alter the state of the game in any meaningful way. Chelsea will just as likely be sold to some other rich person or group. The question is for how much… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Mike Ashley incoming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 There's no winners here, as much as Chelsea fans are a bunch of pigs, they don't deserve to have their club taken away because some loon who seems intent on starting a massive war happens to be mates with their owner. We should know better than most that you can't pick and choose the clubs owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I don't like Chelsea but I think any tribal har-har-ing towards them, particularly from the likes of us, is pretty short-sighted. As is always the case with governance issues, it's not just one club losing, it's the whole sport. Chelsea going to ruins would be just as depressing as Macclesfield and Bury going the same way. I don’t think there’s any long-term chance of them going to ruins like. I don’t want to see decent people’s livelihoods ruined but it’s not some binary black and white issue that’s going on here. Ultimately, Abramovich being sanctioned properly is good news for football provided more is done to root out corrupt businessmen in football. If that happens to us later down the line, I’m fine with it provided the process is fair. This problem isn’t going away and it’ll be the fans who suffer but Abramovich has been involved in Putin’s war effort and I’m glad they’ve finally done something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, gjohnson said: There's no winners here, as much as Chelsea fans are a bunch of pigs, they don't deserve to have their club taken away because some loon who seems intent on starting a massive war happens to be mates with their owner. We should know better than most that you can't pick and choose the clubs owner. the club will survive, it didn’t take Wimbledon that long to get its league status back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, enthusiast said: full doc, if anyone cares to peruse: They have paid all of their travel expenses up front (so no issue) Edited March 10, 2022 by JonBez comesock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, gbandit said: I don’t think there’s any long-term chance of them going to ruins like. I don’t want to see decent people’s livelihoods ruined but it’s not some binary black and white issue that’s going on here. Ultimately, Abramovich being sanctioned properly is good news for football provided more is done to root out corrupt businessmen in football. If that happens to us later down the line, I’m fine with it provided the process is fair. This problem isn’t going away and it’ll be the fans who suffer but Abramovich has been involved in Putin’s war effort and I’m glad they’ve finally done something There needs a root out of all bad owners and a system in place that protects clubs from being owned by future bad owners. Each club should have a trust backed up by the government that puts the fans in majority ownership legally of their own club too. It won’t happen though, and either the sanctions cease and Abramovic gets to sell, but has to pay compensation, or it ceases so the club can be sold to some others, no doubt for a lot less than what Abramovic would want for it, would take or what it’s potentially worth in reality. I have no love for Chelsea fans, nor their club, but no fan should have to suffer because of the actions of owners, an owner in this case the FA, PL and government knew all about from the start and happily allowed him into the game and indeed properties and other business interests here in the U.K… Edited March 10, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, James said: Mike Ashley incoming Has his stamp written all over it… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Joined 26 mins ago eh? How’s the weather over in Sunderland today It’s always bleak on Wearyside! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) Name not modelled after Bruce at all. Ironically a lot of us would agree with their wind up attempt so wont quite have the impact they so crave. Edited March 10, 2022 by Pixelphish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, HTT II said: My own take is long-term this will not effect Chelsea that much or alter the state of the game in any meaningful way. Chelsea will just as likely be sold to some other rich person or group. The question is for how much… I reckon this will help them sell it a lot cheaper, thus leaving loads of money for some future owner to plough in. It could work out to be the best alternative to actually having state backing. The country as a whole will be devastated at the downgrading of Chelsea so I'm sure there'll be plenty of support to help them stay at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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