Fezzle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Honestly, as much as I like laughing at them, I stopped at the first page. It was genuinely depressing to read their nominations - Christ, they’ve really never seen a top rate midfielder play for them, have they? Don’t get me wrong, it’s funny too - but fuck me, I’d be utterly devastated if Reyna, Bracewell, McCann, Schwartz, Baaaaally and Clattermole were the ones getting mentioned Would be like us debating if colback, mcclenn, Hamilton or bassedas were our best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) Even the Ashley era centre midfield had Cabaye, Willock, Merino, Longstaff, Wijnaldum, Barton, Nolan, Tiote, Sissoko, Shelvey, Diame, Butt, Smith and their boy Ki. Could make a case that every one of them was better than what they've come up with. Edited October 20, 2023 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: In fairness, Baxter is the only one I saw on their lists where people outside of Sunderland would say that he was a first-rate footballer. They’d need to be of a decent vintage though - it’s before my fatha’s time, and I’m in my 40s They had a few who went on to be very good (Todd, Watson, Henderson) and some, like us, who were well passed their best (Waddle, Cole, Kennedy, etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Even the Ashley era centre midfield had Cabaye, Willock, Merino, Longstaff, Wijnaldum, Barton, Nolan, Tiote, Sissoko, Shelvey, Diame, Butt, Smith and their boy Ki. Could make a case that every one of them was better than what they've come up with. I'd say NUFC-era Nicky Butt and Alan Smith would probably get into their top ten. In that they were both so mediocre and underwhelming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Surely Jordan Henderson is the only correct answer here - The only one none of us would question being put in a combined top 10 modern day midfielders. After that, their list is just a bit sad really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, bhoywhonder said: I'd say NUFC-era Nicky Butt and Alan Smith would probably get into their top ten. In that they were both so mediocre and underwhelming. Genuinely was going to bracket those two with (whatever we think of them for us, look at their list). Career wise comparing either to Cattermole and Ball is an insult but just for us yeah it'd be tricky to argue as better than their list but certainly they'd be in it. *also Ki isn't better than Ki, about equal I'd say. Edited October 20, 2023 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 FWIW that type of list doesn't just work with midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Fezzle said: Would be like us debating if colback, mcclenn, Hamilton or bassedas were our best Massively disrespectful to leave Fumaca out of that list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Mills and Boon said: Massively disrespectful to leave Fumaca out of that list Was tempted but even hartlepool wouldn't have played him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 They’ll be fewming after losing to their favourite ex-gaffer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 18 hours ago, Wolfcastle said: Genuinely was going to bracket those two with (whatever we think of them for us, look at their list). Career wise comparing either to Cattermole and Ball is an insult but just for us yeah it'd be tricky to argue as better than their list but certainly they'd be in it. *also Ki isn't better than Ki, about equal I'd say. Nicky butt was actually far worse than most people remember for us. Couldn't complete a pass and just hacked people down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Beaten by Sturk. Fucking useless again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: Nicky butt was actually far worse than most people remember for us. Couldn't complete a pass and just hacked people down Oh he was absolutely shite, a contender for our worst centre-midfield in the PL era - at that point a shoe in with McClen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 35 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: Nicky butt was actually far worse than most people remember for us. Couldn't complete a pass and just hacked people down Don’t forget the overhead kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: Nicky butt was actually far worse than most people remember for us. Couldn't complete a pass and just hacked people down He was really poor under Souness but had a decent season with Roeder and then looked useful in Keegan's 4-3-1-2. After that his legs had gone but he was far from our worst ever in the PL era. That'd be Alan Smith hands down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pilko said: He was really poor under Souness but had a decent season with Roeder and then looked useful in Keegan's 4-3-1-2. After that his legs had gone but he was far from our worst ever in the PL era. That'd be Alan Smith hands down. Was decent in the Championship too was Butt which was about his level by the time here was up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Proud to see that one of the McNally clan got the winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) https://streamin.me/v/0911bbac "HANDBALL!!!" Edited October 21, 2023 by Paullow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 44 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Oh he was absolutely shite, a contender for our worst centre-midfield in the PL era - at that point a shoe in with McClen. We've had far worse than nicky butt..far worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, NUFC91 said: We've had far worse than nicky butt..far worse Well dont bother to mention any names whatever you do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, NUFC91 said: We've had far worse than nicky butt..far worse Amdy Faye Looked like we'd just got some gadgey off the street and give him a pair of boots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 50 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Oh he was absolutely shite, a contender for our worst centre-midfield in the PL era - at that point a shoe in with McClen. 10 minutes ago, NUFC91 said: We've had far worse than nicky butt..far worse Pre Butt in the PL I've got O'Brien, Bracewell, Clark, Lee, Venison, Batty, Elliott, Speed, Acuna, (McClen), Dyer, Jenas. Faye was after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said: Pre Butt in the PL I've got O'Brien, Bracewell, Clark, Lee, Venison, Batty, Elliott, Speed, Acuna, (McClen), Dyer, Jenas. Faye was after. wait. What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Wolfcastle said: Oh he was absolutely shite, a contender for our worst centre-midfield in the PL era - at that point a shoe in with McClen. Blast from the past. I so wanted Jamie to do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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