Stifler Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I think that's slightly different and you know Firstly, he isn't a fan but secondly and more importantly he's actively went up and down the UK spouting hate speech and has numerous criminal convictions He’s said to be a fan of Luton Town, so it’s quite possible he could turn up today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 47 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: What if he wanted a burger from the burger van? You going to refuse him a burger? Is he allowed to travel on the metro? It might be upsetting for people? Is he going to be allowed to go for a pint? In fact as soon as he comes off the train at central station should he be lynched then chopped up into small pieces and then fed to the pigs? What are the limits? The burger van would be free to refuse to serve him or not, if they so wish. The Metro are employing people who are kicking people off the trains who do this very thing. Like the burger van, each pub would be free to allow him in or not. Well no, private businesses refusing to serve people who have said offensive things is totally different to kidnapping, murder, and dismemberment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, Stifler said: He’s said to be a fan of Luton Town, so it’s quite possible he could turn up today. As it happens he's banned from all football grounds so if he turns up he'll rightly be denied entry and/or arrested Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Banning people because of their opinion is ridiculous. If she's an idiot, point out why. If she's a transphobe, point out why. If she's talking shite on social media, tell her on social media. If she's talking shite in public, tell her in public. When terrorist sympathisers spout their shite in public...its illegal and I don't even agree with that. Give them a big microphone, put them in the town centre and let them deal with the consequences of their words. Banning people for things and cancelling people for their views is so counter productive. Like I say, give them a microphone and they will cancel themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, STM said: Banning people because of their opinion is ridiculous. Case by case basis imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 6 minutes ago, STM said: Banning people because of their opinion is ridiculous. I’d gladly ban 90 per cent of posters on here for their shite football takes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Case by case basis imo. Yeah I'd just about go along with that. Its very tricky though and the threshold should be higher. It takes a serious mind to draw that line carefully. For me theirs a fine line between stupid/uneducated and hate speech/racism etc. People start throwing the latter phrases around like sweets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinho Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: She referred to them as ‘groomers’. This is precisely what is meant by the term by trans-exclusionary radical feminists. If I have to explain that you can describe the same thing in more than one way or have more than one word for it then I’d advise that you stay away from crosswords, as they will be a frustrating way to spend your free time. edit: an old BBC article describing ‘grooming’ as precisely what I stated. You can be as selective as you like mate, we’re just going to go round in circles. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7758292.stm You said she had engaged in hate speech. This is false. What she said is legally protected speech. There’s no getting around that. You said she had referred to “all transgender people as groomers”. This is false. You made that up because you’re not confident of the ground you’re arguing on. Premier League clubs, and the Premier League itself, should not be in the business of extrajudicial policing of online speech. They should not be in the business of snooping on fans in real life because they suspect they’ve said problematic things on the internet. You no doubt hold lots of perfectly legal opinions that lots of other people find sincerely offensive. You shouldn’t be banned from St James’ Park as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Marvin Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Let's take a vote at the next home game whether this lass should be banned eh? lol. I think a few of you talking big would be in a very small circle. Go try your opinions out at the Percy Arms and let me know how it goes with the toon faithful, lmao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Shame on NUFC, the PL and Northumbria Police. The irony of a Saudi owned club acting like this will not be lost on every football fan in the country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I don't know which post in particular Linzi was banned for, but she has posted a fair bit of material which goes well beyond the bounds of normal political discourse and could potentially tread into hate speech. I'm not comfortable with clubs monitoring the social media activity of fans, but I struggle to have any sympathy for her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) Bottom line is, not one of us, unless you’re a Geordie Ned flanders, would not be in the dock at some point for saying something that may be deemed controversial. Human nature is that we’re the first to point the finger, especially on social media platforms when in reality the apple doesn’t fall far from the crumble…..I like apple crumble. The club have promoted themselves as being close in communication with fans, to listen and work with us (not that they have to). I mention this as I think on this occasion if they felt strongly about this then they could have reached out via NUST - I think that it’s a breech of civil liberties and discriminates against our own personal views particularly when we have owners…..yes, I’ve said this before, of a religion whose beliefs are against that whole community. Edited February 7 by Geordie Boyo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 17 hours ago, Hank Marvin said: Let's take a vote at the next home game whether this lass should be banned eh? lol. I think a few of you talking big would be in a very small circle. Go try your opinions out at the Percy Arms and let me know how it goes with the toon faithful, lmao. Drank enough times in the Percy to know that it wouldn’t be an issue at all. I wouldn’t in the ‘toon disco’ upstairs post-match though - mainly because no cunt could hear what was being said in any case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Marvin Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 13 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Drank enough times in the Percy to know that it wouldn’t be an issue at all. I wouldn’t in the ‘toon disco’ upstairs post-match though - mainly because no cunt could hear what was being said in any case Please record yourself in the Percy next time you're in, asking people whether you think this lady should be banned because she believes women don't have shlongs. If you're interested in making it a series, I'd proffer the name 'The cock conundrum', 'Balls to this' or 'Sheamalerer!' - And I'd like to see the same question asked in the Black Garter, The Clock & The Butchers Arms in Byker. I'm sure it'll be a balanced & nuanced debate with each party sensitive to the others concerns. Namaste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 minutes ago, Hank Marvin said: Please record yourself in the Percy next time you're in, asking people whether you think this lady should be banned because she believes women don't have shlongs. If you're interested in making it a series, I'd proffer the name 'The cock conundrum', 'Balls to this' or 'Sheamalerer!' - And I'd like to see the same question asked in the Black Garter, The Clock & The Butchers Arms in Byker. I'm sure it'll be a balanced & nuanced debate with each party sensitive to the others concerns. Namaste. Oh, I’m under no illusions that I’d be in a minority of one. But the implication that I’d get my head kicked in for holding that view? Nah. I’d have a hard job these days nipping in there tbf. But I don’t doubt that the Garter and the Percy remain as robust as ever. And I wouldn’t touch the Butchers Arms with yours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) no sign of our anthony. Edited February 8 by huss9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Groundhog63 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Hank Marvin said: Please record yourself in the Percy next time you're in, asking people whether you think this lady should be banned because she believes women don't have shlongs. If you're interested in making it a series, I'd proffer the name 'The cock conundrum', 'Balls to this' or 'Sheamalerer!' - And I'd like to see the same question asked in the Black Garter, The Clock & The Butchers Arms in Byker. I'm sure it'll be a balanced & nuanced debate with each party sensitive to the others concerns. Namaste. Haha Don't go into Daily Mail pubs with your "I love Liniker" t-shirt on ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Marvin Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Haha Don't go into Daily Mail pubs with your "I love Liniker" t-shirt on ? Yeh the staunch bastions of fiscal conservatism that they are... Edited February 8 by Hank Marvin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Holloway Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 What a charming fellow Jacob is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Anyone remember the @nufcfans twitter account from about ten years ago? Started off as a pretty standard news aggregator like @nufc360, but then slowly disappeared up their own arse and copped a load of shit for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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huss9 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 this interviewer, man. ffs, poor Emil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 https://x.com/toonmouthtyne/status/1762197744360272126?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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