Disco Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Barclays 1-0 Nerds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Disco said: Barclays 1-0 Nerds Hell yeah. Easily the most useless stat in the game. Edited May 8, 2023 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Leeds are going to be extra dangerous on Saturday like. Absolute must win for them now. Think they’ll be as dangerous as a wet fart tbh. Allardyce is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: As long as that Tyler Adams doesn’t play for Leeds we’ll be fine against their high press. They don't press anymore. Allardyce will have them sitting deep, and I think that will really suit us as long as we stay patient and move the ball around well against the low block. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 There's a reason why they've only won 7 all season and have the worst defence in the league. Allardyce isnt a miracle worker. They might beat us, get a rise somehow, but all logic suggests we're better than them and should win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Don't know why they're letting O'Neill tell us his life story here but been a pretty good listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Hell yeah. Easily the most useless stat in the game. Their model is probably crap, but how is it useless? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Jagten said: Their model is probably crap, but how is it useless? xG as a stat means fuck all. It’s the hip thing to throw around right now but when it comes to any sort of goal stat there is only one that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, LFEE said: The owners backed him with new players. Possibly too many but that was partly due to them getting promoted unexpectedly and had a dozen players out of contract or on loan they had to replace alone as well as additions required. When results were poor he stuck behind him and when pressure increased further he give him a new contract. Results again haven’t been brilliant but he has held his nerve and kept him in his role. So guessing the whole statement ? He fucked up getting 26 plus players or more, that's not gonna work and he only stuck with cooper because of fan pressure if they go down it's on him not cooper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, cubaricho said: xG as a stat means fuck all. It’s the hip thing to throw around right now but when it comes to any sort of goal stat there is only one that matters. For sure - much the same as shots, possession, etc. However if you view a result as a sample from the probability distribution of all possible results, to me it is not uninteresting to understand the properties of that distribution. Whether a given xG metric is a good approximation of that expectation is another question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 57 minutes ago, cubaricho said: xG as a stat means fuck all. It’s the hip thing to throw around right now but when it comes to any sort of goal stat there is only one that matters. Had no idea cuba was actually Steve Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Come on now pata. Uncalled for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Pata said: Had no idea cuba was actually Steve Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, cubaricho said: xG as a stat means fuck all. It’s the hip thing to throw around right now but when it comes to any sort of goal stat there is only one that matters. Isn't it just supposed to give some idea of the quality of chances created and how well teams were able to take advantage of those chances? Don't think it's supposed to be a predictor of results or anything like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, KaKa said: Isn't it just supposed to give some idea of the quality of chances created and how well teams were able to take advantage of those chances? Don't think it's supposed to be a predictor of results or anything like that. I don’t really care enough to even think that deeply about it to be honest. It is what it is. I just know it gets thrown around here (and elsewhere) quite a bit and is almost exclusively a number that is far different than the most important stat: goals actually scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, KaKa said: Isn't it just supposed to give some idea of the quality of chances created and how well teams were able to take advantage of those chances? Don't think it's supposed to be a predictor of results or anything like that. And it's what all fans do walking out after the match. We were lucky/unlucky there, we/they had X amount of great chances. Player Y has to score from that position etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) It's useful as a long term indicator I think. I find it often backs up a feeling you have about a team or match when you watch them that you maybe can't explain. eg we were still good and creating chances in that dry spell before the cup final so there wasn't much need to worry, or that Brentford aren't actually all that good and it probably won't last. Remember our 4-1 home loss to Fulham that everyone says was a weird match we should have won? The xG for that would have backed that up. Edited May 8, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, cubaricho said: I don’t really care enough to even think that deeply about it to be honest. It is what it is. I just know it gets thrown around here (and elsewhere) quite a bit and is almost exclusively a number that is far different than the most important stat: goals actually scored. Well I'll be darned ... you are Steve Bruce! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, KaKa said: Well I'll be darned ... you are Steve Bruce! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 What on earth happened in the PL yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: What on earth happened in the PL yesterday. “Look at me I’m in Japan and it’s tomorrow already” OooooOOooOoo Spoiler Safety Edited May 9, 2023 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, cubaricho said: “Look at me I’m in Japan and it’s tomorrow already” OooooOOooOoo Hide contents Safety Deserved. Just saw ridiculous amounts of goals in each game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Deserved. Just saw ridiculous amounts of goals in each game. It was a banner day for the Prem for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Disco said: Barclays 1-0 Nerds Ex Mackem goalies at both ends destroying the xG model, which assumes "average striker" and "average keeper". Steele saving nothing and knocking one in himself. Pickford making some high class saves. On the Steele og, McNeil should just have smashed in himself. There's at least a yard open at the near post. It would have given him a hat trick. I didn't see the Soton game but their keeper has been turboshit all season. Navas has been fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 What happened to Brighton. Fair result? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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