Still not worthy of a thread

[Fak]

 

[joeyt]

 

 

Had no idea he was unwell

[Chapo]

The LiveScore app update is shite 

[Fak]

42 minutes ago, Chapo said:

The LiveScore app update is shite 

FotMob >

[Chapo]

10 minutes ago, Fak said:

FotMob >

Ill check it out

[midds]

Still use the gambling sites for latest scores too. PP changed it a full 10 seconds before I watched it 'live' on Sky tonight

[Dancing Brave]

6 hours ago, Fak said:

 

[Stifler]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDFlFcryr7C/?igsh=eG9xeTRxbmtsdnNi

[Kaizero]

 

Decided to actually do something constructive with my burning hatred of anti-VAR footy fans not realizing they're protesting the wrong fucking thing, so wrote up an article to serve as content for my football agency as we near the January window slamming wide open... only issue being that there's no audience built up organically at the moment, so I'm just pouring my vitriol out into the vast ether of the Internet   Which means I'm posting it here as well so maybe someone actually ends up seeing the fucking article  

 

 

[Fezzle]

I see the world cup qualifying draw is typically ridiculous, the absolute state of pot 1 thanks to the Nations League shite.

[Fezzle]

Belguim/Wales together. England/Serbia/Albania

Swiss/Sweden/Slovenia in a 4 team group of death so way. Shit on Isak

Port/Den, Greece, Scotland. Port/Den, Ireland, Hungary

 

 

Edited Friday at 11:43 by Fezzle

[Fezzle]

Group A: Winner of Germany/Italy, Slovakia, NORTHERN IRELAND,Luxembourg

Group B: Switzerland, Sweden, Slovenia, Kosovo

Group C: Loser of Portugal/Denmark, Greece, SCOTLAND,Belarus

Group D: Winner of France/Croatia, Ukraine, Iceland, Azerbaijan

Group E: Winner of Spain/Netherlands, Turkey, Georgia, Bulgaria

Group F: Winner of Portugal/Denmark, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, Armenia

Group G: Loser of Spain/Netherlands, Poland, Finland, Lithuania, Malta

Group H: Austria, Romania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Cyprus, San Marino

Group I: Loser of Germany/Italy, Norway, Israel, Estonia, Moldova

Group J: Belgium, WALES, North Macedonia, Kazakhstan, Liechtenstein

Group K: ENGLAND, Serbia, Albania, Latvia, Andorra

Group L: Loser of France/Croatia, Czech Republic, Montenegro, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar

[Paully]

18 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

Group A: Winner of Germany/Italy, Slovakia, NORTHERN IRELAND,Luxembourg

Group B: Switzerland, Sweden, Slovenia, Kosovo

Group C: Loser of Portugal/Denmark, Greece, SCOTLAND,Belarus

Group D: Winner of France/Croatia, Ukraine, Iceland, Azerbaijan

Group E: Winner of Spain/Netherlands, Turkey, Georgia, Bulgaria

Group F: Winner of Portugal/Denmark, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, Armenia

Group G: Loser of Spain/Netherlands, Poland, Finland, Lithuania, Malta

Group H: Austria, Romania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Cyprus, San Marino

Group I: Loser of Germany/Italy, Norway, Israel, Estonia, Moldova

Group J: Belgium, WALES, North Macedonia, Kazakhstan, Liechtenstein

Group K: ENGLAND, Serbia, Albania, Latvia, Andorra

Group L: Loser of France/Croatia, Czech Republic, Montenegro, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar

 

WTF is that?!

[Conjo]

Norwegian media is going to a hoot in the time period leading up to the games against Israel.

[Fezzle]

32 minutes ago, Paully said:

 

WTF is that?!

Its Spain and Netherlands playing to lose in their next match by the looks of that farcical shite ha

[Kaizero]

5 hours ago, Fezzle said:

Its Spain and Netherlands playing to lose in their next match by the looks of that farcical shite ha

 

This opinion about the Nations League effect on the WC Qualifier Group Draw is one I've only seen voiced by "fans" of the traditional "big" nations. The complete opposite opinion appear to be universally held by everyone else  

 

In my eyes, this is the first WCQ Group Draw in my lifetime that hasn't been farcical, so I can only assume that the aforementioned opinion on the matter exist only because it affects the traditionally "big" nations in an unfavorable manner, or? 🤔 If that's not the reason, I'd genuinely would love to hear some reasoning for why it's "farcical"? No ulterior motive behind that question, just genuinely interested in understanding why I've heard Englishmen, Italians, Spaniards and German say the same as you did all day – whilst hearing nothing but praise from people hailing from smaller nations. This in addition to me, as mentioned, joining the people from smaller nations praising the draw changes – feeling this is a vast improvement for the UEFA WCQ on a whole.

[Fezzle]

2 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

This opinion about the Nations League effect on the WC Qualifier Group Draw is one I've only seen voiced by "fans" of the traditional "big" nations. The complete opposite opinion appear to be universally held by everyone else  

 

In my eyes, this is the first WCQ Group Draw in my lifetime that hasn't been farcical, so I can only assume that the aforementioned opinion on the matter exist only because it affects the traditionally "big" nations in an unfavorable manner, or? 🤔 If that's not the reason, I'd genuinely would love to hear some reasoning for why it's "farcical"? No ulterior motive behind that question, just genuinely interested in understanding why I've heard Englishmen, Italians, Spaniards and German say the same as you did all day – whilst hearing nothing but praise from people hailing from smaller nations. This in addition to me, as mentioned, joining the people from smaller nations praising the draw changes – feeling this is a vast improvement for the UEFA WCQ on a whole.

That's a lot of waffle in answer to 'the loser gets an easier group' post. Not that I read past the first bit as you didn't read mine properly 

[Kaizero]

3 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

That's a lot of waffle in answer to 'the loser gets an easier group' post. Not that I read past the first bit as you didn't read mine properly 

 

Point me to what you've supposedly written that I've failed to read properly? I've bolded and underlined the relevant statements you made in your posts that 'caused me to respond, as it should make it easier for you to actually type out a proper response instead of something as idiotic as what you just did in the quote above.

 

If you didn't mean what you posted, then you should've elaborated on your opinion rather than being as direct and to the point as you were, leaving no room for other interpretations no matter how many times I'd re-read your posts. At least I've bothered initially reading them, and now bothered re-reading them a couple of times attempting to find where you said "the loser gets an easier group" in any of your posts, but you haven't.

 

Expecting people to assume you actually meant to say the above when you said the following makes no sense;

6 hours ago, Fezzle said:

I see the world cup qualifying draw is typically ridiculous, the absolute state of pot 1 thanks to the Nations League shite.

 

Now, if you'd have included this in your initial complaint about the draw, making that assumption would've been easier and more straight-forward;

5 hours ago, Fezzle said:

Its Spain and Netherlands playing to lose in their next match by the looks of that farcical shite ha

 

However, what you initially posted was that the WCQ Draw was, as typical, ridiculous. This apparently thanks to the Nations League shite.

 

The changes stemming from the Nations League have not been around for enough years to have any form of "typical" impact on anything, let alone a WCQ draw. This is the first draw where we actually see the positive ramifications of the Nations League having a genuine effect on the group draw for a WCQ, which led me to respond with my post - asking for a genuine response as this subject matter actually interests me greatly. Instead, you resorted to the lowest form of forum etiquette, proclaiming you didn't even bother reading a post before responding to it.

[Fezzle]

47 minutes ago, Kaizero said:

 

Point me to what you've supposedly written that I've failed to read properly? I've bolded and underlined the relevant statements you made in your posts that 'caused me to respond, as it should make it easier for you to actually type out a proper response instead of something as idiotic as what you just did in the quote above.

 

If you didn't mean what you posted, then you should've elaborated on your opinion rather than being as direct and to the point as you were, leaving no room for other interpretations no matter how many times I'd re-read your posts. At least I've bothered initially reading them, and now bothered re-reading them a couple of times attempting to find where you said "the loser gets an easier group" in any of your posts, but you haven't.

 

Expecting people to assume you actually meant to say the above when you said the following makes no sense;

 

Now, if you'd have included this in your initial complaint about the draw, making that assumption would've been easier and more straight-forward;

 

However, what you initially posted was that the WCQ Draw was, as typical, ridiculous. This apparently thanks to the Nations League shite.

 

The changes stemming from the Nations League have not been around for enough years to have any form of "typical" impact on anything, let alone a WCQ draw. This is the first draw where we actually see the positive ramifications of the Nations League having a genuine effect on the group draw for a WCQ, which led me to respond with my post - asking for a genuine response as this subject matter actually interests me greatly. Instead, you resorted to the lowest form of forum etiquette, proclaiming you didn't even bother reading a post before responding to it.

Yeah I didn't read all that either. Get over yourself ffs

[54]

4 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

Yeah I didn't read all that either. Get over yourself ffs

Kaiz has made decent point and is seemingly being sincere, and seems to want to have a genuine discussion, why are you being needlessly patronizing?  

 

For what its worth, the draw is great for the "lesser" nations, and thats a really good thing, not everything is about the big nations and leagues. Hell the best thing in Football this year is San Marino getting two wins and qualifying from Group D of the Nations League. 

[Kaizero]

8 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

Yeah I didn't read all that either. Get over yourself ffs

Frightening lack of manners. I can only hope, for the sake of the people around you, that you don’t behave like this offline. Refusing to engage in meaningful discussion, on an online discussion board, is paradoxial behaviour manifest.

 

 

Edited Friday at 19:24 by Kaizero

[SEMTEX]

On 12/12/2024 at 06:31, Kaizero said:

 

Decided to actually do something constructive with my burning hatred of anti-VAR footy fans not realizing they're protesting the wrong fucking thing, so wrote up an article to serve as content for my football agency as we near the January window slamming wide open... only issue being that there's no audience built up organically at the moment, so I'm just pouring my vitriol out into the vast ether of the Internet   Which means I'm posting it here as well so maybe someone actually ends up seeing the fucking article  

 

 

 

"While waiting for confirmation might feel excruciating, isn’t the trade-off for fairness worth it?"

 

No.

[SEMTEX]

(still reading the article, and generally don't disagree that the IFAB fuckery is an issue, but felt inclined to answer that rhetorical question asap)

[Fezzle]

14 minutes ago, 54 said:

Kaiz has made decent point and is seemingly being sincere, and seems to want to have a genuine discussion, why are you being needlessly patronizing?  

 

For what its worth, the draw is great for the "lesser" nations, and thats a really good thing, not everything is about the big nations and leagues. Hell the best thing in Football this year is San Marino getting two wins and qualifying from Group D of the Nations League. 

Wasn't trying to be patronising at all. All I said was the loser gets a better draw, he fired into me in protection of the nations league which I honestly don't care about. 

[Kaizero]

1 minute ago, 54 said:

Kaiz has made decent point and is seemingly being sincere, and seems to want to have a genuine discussion, why are you being needlessly patronizing?  

 

For what its worth, the draw is great for the "lesser" nations, and thats a really good thing, not everything is about the big nations and leagues. Hell the best thing in Football this year is San Marino getting two wins and qualifying from Group D of the Nations League. 

Without the Nations League we’d have never seen a WCQ group like Group L and nations like Montenegro and the Faroe Islands could’ve only dreamt of having a chance to directly qualify for a World Cup through the actual, offficial, UEFA Qualifiers. 

 

Maybe, and just maybe, they could’ve lucked out and snatched one of the Nations League qualifying spots and made it into a World Cup the long way round - but now? Now they have an actual chance. Their games are no longer “glorified friendlies” and their role is no longer restricted to being a nation only “making up the numbers” in their group.

 

The Nations League has delivered way, way, above expectations and made international football competitive and entertaining - for all nations. Just because someone is born in one of the “big” football nations and therefore, without probably even meaning to do so, continually act just as “entitled” as Liverpool fans get accused of being - taking qualifying for major tournaments, and victory in most matches (competitive matches just as much as non-competitive) as a given and therefore now views International breaks in the football calendar as a “bore”… That, in no way, means that the rest of the world does.

 

Someone posted on here saying that if NUFC played in the Conference League this season, we’d cherish every moment and if we won the trophy at the end of it - we’d celebrate it for years to come. It shouldn’t be hard for a NUFC fan to understand how people from “smaller” nations view International football. For us, the “trophy” would be qualifying for a EC or WC - we’d live on that achievement alone for at least 10+ years. 
 

When the press in Norway asks people to vote for what they view as the pinnacle of Norwegian sport, the winner has been the same since 1998… The 3rd group stage match against Brazil in the France WC that we had to win if we were to advance to the Round of 16.
 

We went 0-1 down in the middle of the 2nd half, the coaching staff made the last subs of the match based on “letting X player get some minutes on the pitch to experience playing in a WC before going home”. They weren’t made based on tactical reasons to attempt turning the match around, we were 0-1 down to Brazil in a WC match after all.

 

In the last 10 minutes of the match, we turned 0–1 into 2-1 and qualified for the Round of 16. That match went on to etch itself into our collective memories as the absolute peak for Norway as a nation doing sports. We unceriomoniously got knocked out in an extremely boring 0–1 loss to Italy in our eventual R16 match, but nobody cared then and nobody cares now. We’ll never win a WC, but that late summer night in 1998? That felt like watching Norway lift the trophy. Until the day NUFC lifts a trophy, I genuinely don’t think anything related to sport will even come close to challenging what I felt that evening, pure unfiltered bliss. 
 

And that bliss came into existence from the 3rd match in a WC group stage - not from lifting a trophy, but because that match mattered so much for the entire nation, and our team didn’t let us down - even when nobody actually believed we’d win at any point before the final whistle was blown.

 

I love International football and will continue to do so until the corporate greed that’ systematically ruined European club competitions in less than two decades manages to ruin that part of modern football as well.