Wullie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: We keep getting told that he learns from each setback. What did he learn from losing the euro final? Make sure Henderson plays more? Get your centre backs to pass it between themselves for half an hour? every time we face a decent team we lose. There’s zero evidence he’s learning anything. Henderson's been really good all tournament though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Shearergol said: We keep getting told that he learns from each setback. What did he learn from losing the euro final? Make sure Henderson plays more? Get your centre backs to pass it between themselves for half an hour? every time we face a decent team we lose. There’s zero evidence he’s learning anything. I was quite critical of him against Italy, but I don't think he made any particular errors this evening. Nothing that you could say cost us the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: I mean, Saka, Bellingham, and Foden will all still be in their early 20's. France had to resort to rugby to stop Saka today. Any fullbacks coming through? Striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Flip said: Apart from the Argentina game, all the worse sides went through imo. This World Cup is deserving of a Croatia v Morocco final. Get a new winner. Netherlands were the worst side for most of the game, but that 20 minute spell after Argentina got their second was one of their most incompetent and cuntish displays since 1998 (which can never be topped). And Argentina have wracked up a lot of cuntish displays since. Edited December 10, 2022 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Feels like we are lacking some really good young centre backs. But I think we can take the Euros. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, The Prophet said: I was quite critical of him against Italy, but I don't think he made any particular errors this evening. Nothing that you could say cost us the game. Brought a baffling sub on that immediately made a run in behind and won a penalty booooooooooooooo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Wullie said: Henderson's been really good all tournament though? Yet we didn’t get as far as last time? What did he learn and correct? I’m not criticising his picking of Henderson, I’m questioning what else changed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Any fullbacks coming through? Striker? Kane will still be world class by 2024 barring injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, dembabah said: Didn't you watch Tottenham v Newcastle this season? Cunt was whining on all game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: Kane will still be world class by 2024 barring injuries. He’ll be slooooow though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Have fun with Gerrard or Lampard at the England wheel if some of you get your wish. Or do you think Pep and Simeone are gagging to duke it out for the role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Shearergol said: He’ll be slooooow though Jesus. He'll be shy of 31 by the time the Euros end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Shearergol said: Yet we didn’t get as far as last time? What did he learn and correct? I’m not criticising his picking of Henderson, I’m questioning what else changed? Well last time he was mainly criticised for being too negative and not putting games to bed - I think we might still be the top scorers in this World Cup. Seems quite a big change to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Pandamninator said: Have fun with Gerrard or Lampard at the England wheel if some of you get your wish. Or do you think Pep and Simeone are gagging to duke it out for the role? I’d rather keep him to keep England away from Eddie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: He’ll be slooooow though He’s very slow now. He’s a brilliant striker but his lack of pace is an issue in this England team. It just makes us too predictable at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Jesus. He'll be shy of 31 by the time the Euros end. And? He’s already slow now. But anyway, Wilson won’t be there, who else is coming through? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Yet we didn’t get as far as last time? What did he learn and correct? I’m not criticising his picking of Henderson, I’m questioning what else changed? Sounds like you're criticising without actually knowing what you're specifically criticising. What exactly needed correcting from the Euros? We navigated that tournament superbly and did very well here until we faced the world champions and the margins went against us. The only thing he did wrong at the Euros was fail to manage the lead against Italy. That situation wasn't recreated here so what exactly are we supposed to critique in terms of what should've been 'corrected'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: And? He’s already slow now. But anyway, Wilson won’t be there, who else is coming through? We were specifically talking about the Euros, which are a year and a half away. I am not talking about the following World Cup. Kane's abilities will probably not be reduced so much. Fullback is way more of an issue. Are you suggesting that England put Kane out to pasture for the next Euros? If he is firing on all cylinders and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, then you won't need to worry as much about another striker coming through, as we are talking about 18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Sounds like you're criticising without actually knowing what you're specifically criticising. What exactly needed correcting from the Euros? We navigated that tournament superbly and did very well here until we faced the world champions and the margins went against us. The only thing he did wrong at the Euros was fail to manage the lead against Italy. That situation wasn't recreated here so what exactly are we supposed to critique in terms of what should've been 'corrected'? This is exactly what he is doing. And he keeps altering the goal posts a little bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Yorkie said: Sounds like you're criticising without actually knowing what you're specifically criticising. What exactly needed correcting from the Euros? We navigated that tournament superbly and did very well here until we faced the world champions and the margins went against us. The only thing he did wrong at the Euros was fail to manage the lead against Italy. That situation wasn't recreated here so what exactly as we supposed to critique in terms of what should've been 'corrected'? And we completely dominated possession tonight, which is what the main criticism was vs Italy and Croatia. 57 vs 43 is huge against a team like France. Basically nowt is good enough for some until he wins a tournament, which is fair enough but imo ludicrous to judge an England manager by that standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, TaylorJ_01 said: Feels like we are lacking some really good young centre backs. But I think we can take the Euros. Tomori's only 23 and Guehi I'd expect to get in to the England set up and he's 22. Colwill is 19. Must be others. Still pretty stacked at fullback which is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Hopefully he starts integrating guys like Maddison in more. Really think he’d have been the X factor in todays game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Sounds like you're criticising without actually knowing what you're specifically criticising. What exactly needed correcting from the Euros? We navigated that tournament superbly and did very well here until we faced the world champions and the margins went against us. The only thing he did wrong at the Euros was fail to manage the lead against Italy. That situation wasn't recreated here so what exactly are we supposed to critique in terms of what should've been 'corrected'? Nope, I’m criticising the media claiming he’s leant from the previous tournaments. I couldn’t really care less if he stays or goes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 He has done a good job but I personally believe we could have done and should have done better. And maybe a braver man gambles at the crucial stages of the tournaments... We needed quality balls in the box, you bring Maddison on. You need a fox in the box you bring Wilson on but you have to have a plan B or even C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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