Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: He’ll be slooooow though He’s very slow now. He’s a brilliant striker but his lack of pace is an issue in this England team. It just makes us too predictable at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: Jesus. He'll be shy of 31 by the time the Euros end. And? He’s already slow now. But anyway, Wilson won’t be there, who else is coming through? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Yet we didn’t get as far as last time? What did he learn and correct? I’m not criticising his picking of Henderson, I’m questioning what else changed? Sounds like you're criticising without actually knowing what you're specifically criticising. What exactly needed correcting from the Euros? We navigated that tournament superbly and did very well here until we faced the world champions and the margins went against us. The only thing he did wrong at the Euros was fail to manage the lead against Italy. That situation wasn't recreated here so what exactly are we supposed to critique in terms of what should've been 'corrected'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: And? He’s already slow now. But anyway, Wilson won’t be there, who else is coming through? We were specifically talking about the Euros, which are a year and a half away. I am not talking about the following World Cup. Kane's abilities will probably not be reduced so much. Fullback is way more of an issue. Are you suggesting that England put Kane out to pasture for the next Euros? If he is firing on all cylinders and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, then you won't need to worry as much about another striker coming through, as we are talking about 18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Sounds like you're criticising without actually knowing what you're specifically criticising. What exactly needed correcting from the Euros? We navigated that tournament superbly and did very well here until we faced the world champions and the margins went against us. The only thing he did wrong at the Euros was fail to manage the lead against Italy. That situation wasn't recreated here so what exactly are we supposed to critique in terms of what should've been 'corrected'? This is exactly what he is doing. And he keeps altering the goal posts a little bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Yorkie said: Sounds like you're criticising without actually knowing what you're specifically criticising. What exactly needed correcting from the Euros? We navigated that tournament superbly and did very well here until we faced the world champions and the margins went against us. The only thing he did wrong at the Euros was fail to manage the lead against Italy. That situation wasn't recreated here so what exactly as we supposed to critique in terms of what should've been 'corrected'? And we completely dominated possession tonight, which is what the main criticism was vs Italy and Croatia. 57 vs 43 is huge against a team like France. Basically nowt is good enough for some until he wins a tournament, which is fair enough but imo ludicrous to judge an England manager by that standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, TaylorJ_01 said: Feels like we are lacking some really good young centre backs. But I think we can take the Euros. Tomori's only 23 and Guehi I'd expect to get in to the England set up and he's 22. Colwill is 19. Must be others. Still pretty stacked at fullback which is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Hopefully he starts integrating guys like Maddison in more. Really think he’d have been the X factor in todays game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Sounds like you're criticising without actually knowing what you're specifically criticising. What exactly needed correcting from the Euros? We navigated that tournament superbly and did very well here until we faced the world champions and the margins went against us. The only thing he did wrong at the Euros was fail to manage the lead against Italy. That situation wasn't recreated here so what exactly are we supposed to critique in terms of what should've been 'corrected'? Nope, I’m criticising the media claiming he’s leant from the previous tournaments. I couldn’t really care less if he stays or goes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 He has done a good job but I personally believe we could have done and should have done better. And maybe a braver man gambles at the crucial stages of the tournaments... We needed quality balls in the box, you bring Maddison on. You need a fox in the box you bring Wilson on but you have to have a plan B or even C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 God, a few sites are so fucking bad, claiming that France is the first defending champion to reach the semifinal in 60 years. Brazil won the final in 94, lost the final in 98, and won the final again in 2002. WTF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: We were specifically talking about the Euros, which are a year and a half away. I am not talking about the following World Cup. Kane's abilities will probably not be reduced so much. Fullback is way more of an issue. Are you suggesting that England put Kane out to pasture for the next Euros? If he is firing on all cylinders and doesn't suffer any serious injuries, then you won't need to worry as much about another striker coming through, as we are talking about 18 months. No, I’m asking which strikers we have coming through? Surely it’s a genuine concern? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Nope, I’m criticising the media claiming he’s leant from the previous tournaments. I couldn’t really care less if he stays or goes Out of interest, in what ways has he not learnt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Nope, I’m criticising the media claiming he’s leant from the previous tournaments. I couldn’t really care less if he stays or goes I don't think there's any evidence to suggest he hasn't learned anything; I understand the criticism about his favourites but I don't see it as an issue. However, happy to join you in media slagging. God Almighty Sam Matterface is absolutely rank. What an absolutely awful commentator he is. ITV as fuck. Imagine him and Darren Fletcher in conversation, welp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: No, I’m asking which strikers we have coming through? Surely it’s a genuine concern? It is certainly a concern for the next World Cup. But is it for the Euro if Kane is still doing fine in 18 months? Edited December 10, 2022 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, The Prophet said: Out of interest, in what ways has he not learnt? Well we did worse than last time, it kinda suggests something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: It is certainly a concern for the next World Cup. But is it if Kane is still doing fine in 18 months? Going into a tournament with only one striker? Maybe Toney will stop gambling… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Shearergol said: Well we did worse than last time, it kinda suggests something You did not lose to a country like Denmark though, did you? You lost to the defending champions, and even Deschamps said that they were lucky to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Well we did worse than last time, it kinda suggests something Howay m... 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Going into a tournament with only one striker? Maybe Toney will stop gambling… He took Wilson!! Stop reflecting Scunthorpe United in opinion form, Gol! Ah, edit, I see you were on about the Euros. Still stand by my Scunthorpe joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Going into a tournament with only one striker? Maybe Toney will stop gambling… I don't think you will be going into the tournament with one striker, man. Once again, it's 18 months from now. And once again, you keep changing the goal posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Yorkie said: Howay m... He took Wilson!! Stop reflecting Scunthorpe United in opinion form, Gol! Reckon Wilson will go to the Euro’s then? I’m not criticising anyone here, I’m genuinely asking what our striker options are moving forward. Kane is a special player, I don’t know if anyone like that is coming through? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: I don't think you will be going into the tournament with one striker, man. Once again, it's 18 months from now. And once again, you keep changing the goal posts. How am I? I’m asking who our future forwards are ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Yeah yeah, I misread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Some of the criticism for Southgate is probably the weirdest thing I've ever experienced in football like. The people who clapped for nurses then hated them for going on strike have better memories Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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