The College Dropout Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Annoyed with the Man U win. Think they’ll get 5th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Personally just gonna enjoy the rest of the season. CL isn't on, personally not bothered about the other options (feel CL is more likely without them in 24/25) and no sweat below. Especially after the last few seasons. The cup is a different story. Like 97/98 but without the shit football and results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 With Pope starting, 26 points from 14 games. With Dubz starting, 10 points from 10 games. There is more to it than just the keeper, and the switch simply coincides with a collapse in form. This collapse started with the Everton game, which is included as "Pope". I don't think 26 points from 14 games with Pope was a fluke, so that a low sixties points total is still possible, possibly even 65 if we regain form. It will depend on Villa and Tottenham where that will place us. Its not in our own hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 41 minutes ago, Stottie said: With Pope starting, 26 points from 14 games. With Dubz starting, 10 points from 10 games. There is more to it than just the keeper, and the switch simply coincides with a collapse in form. This collapse started with the Everton game, which is included as "Pope". I don't think 26 points from 14 games with Pope was a fluke, so that a low sixties points total is still possible, possibly even 65 if we regain form. It will depend on Villa and Tottenham where that will place us. Its not in our own hands. Dubs was in goal against Everton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Yeah my mistake. I thought it was that game he came on in, not the Man U one. The stats I quoted were calculated by FBref and will be correct. fwiw, I see the Everton first goal as a turning point in our season. The hard games Spurs and Villa have are mostly in April and May. While this creates high squeaky bum potential as the season end approaches, those bums are sitting on hefty points cushions over us. We need to hang in there to make sure that pressure will count. The title race looks like it'll go to the wire, so those fixtures will not be easy games for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 So is Europe still a possibility then? I thought it wasn't after the Luton result? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 10/02/2024 at 20:34, Superior Acuña said: Obviously we just want to finish as high as possible, but I think 6th/7th are the realistic targets now. We're in a good position for 7th, we should be looking to finish above West Ham and keep Brighton/Chelsea behind. ManU are unpredictable, great if we could pip them to 6th. Interesting thing about Man Utd, is they have only taken 1 point of the ‘Tier 1’ teams (tier based on last season’s finishing positions) but have amassed 18 points from Tier 4 opponents. It’s the latter where we have really let ourselves down. Could/should have had an extra 8 points and be right in the Top 4 mix, if we had been as effective as them, against those expect to be fighting relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, TBG said: So is Europe still a possibility then? I thought it wasn't after the Luton result? We are 5 points from an end of February total (Bournemouth H and Arsenal A to play) which would put us bang on the average points total for a sixth place finish. So still in there with a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Rumours from villa fans that Konsa and Kamara have both done their ACL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 hours ago, Stottie said: With Pope starting, 26 points from 14 games. With Dubz starting, 10 points from 10 games. There is more to it than just the keeper, and the switch simply coincides with a collapse in form. This collapse started with the Everton game, which is included as "Pope". I don't think 26 points from 14 games with Pope was a fluke, so that a low sixties points total is still possible, possibly even 65 if we regain form. It will depend on Villa and Tottenham where that will place us. Its not in our own hands. Well if we were to win all the remaining games a 78 point total pretty much guarantees Champions League. So kind of still in our hands. Not that I think we will, but I wouldn’t be shocked if we gathered another 28 points (64 total) and/or didn’t lose again this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I always expected us to make Europe, question is just what type of Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I'd give up getting Europe through the league if we can win the FA Cup. But with Liverpool and Man Utd and even Chelsea still in that, we'll need to get nice draws for ourselves and the others to knock each other out in the QF and Semis. And we'll of course need to win the Alan Shearer derby first as well. Tough but doable. The league is much tougher for imho. Need those teams still in Europe, to stutter a bit and we keep on winning. God, I sound so obvious trying to stay positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 We’ve beaten Manchester United and Chelsea. We can do it again. We can beat anyone in a one off game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 23 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Rumours from villa fans that Konsa and Kamara have both done their ACL. If true, would that be 4 players from that squad who've done that over the last year? Yikes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Maybe i'm over-pessimistic but when have we ever beaten a top team in a semi or cup final? I don't trust us to do it now. Edited February 12 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, The College Dropout said: Maybe i'm over-pessimistic but when have we ever beaten a top team in a semi or cup final? You’ve a small sample to draw from there Mr President! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, Coffee_Johnny said: You’ve a small sample to draw from there Mr President! Even QF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Consideing we have only played one fa cup semi in 20 years its no surprise we havent beaten many top sides in one......only 2 quarters too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Yeh aye. I just wouldn't gamble the success of our season on any cup competition atm. The margins are too fine. We don't have that je ne sais quoi to get big wins over the line in cup competitions. I would love to win the FA Cup and I think we have a decent chance. We are good team. But in my heart, I expect heartbreak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 48 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: If true, would that be 4 players from that squad who've done that over the last year? Yikes. I wonder if Villa Talk has done 20 pages on how Emery’s training methods endanger knee ligaments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Even QF? I’ve just had a look at our record in cup competitions: QF or better. I’ll find a thread appropriate to post when I’ve a mo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, nufcjb said: I'd give up getting Europe through the league if we can win the FA Cup. But with Liverpool and Man Utd and even Chelsea still in that, we'll need to get nice draws for ourselves and the others to knock each other out in the QF and Semis. And we'll of course need to win the Alan Shearer derby first as well. Tough but doable. The league is much tougher for imho. Need those teams still in Europe, to stutter a bit and we keep on winning. God, I sound so obvious trying to stay positive. Give us Man City or Liverpool at home in the quarters for me, assuming we can get past Blackburn. I think we need home advantage to beat either of those teams (even then it would be tough), as we just dont turn up at Wembley! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said: We are 5 points from an end of February total (Bournemouth H and Arsenal A to play) which would put us bang on the average points total for a sixth place finish. So still in there with a chance. So what you're saying is, beat Bournemouth and we're still amongst it. Lose to Bournemouth and Howe is a fraud with Burn going down in history as one of our worst ever players. Beat Arsenal, and we gain points we didn't expect to get, meaning the Bournemouth result wasn't that bad, with Howe also for some, going ahead of Keegan when it comes to our best ever manager. Lose to Arsenal, and we need to question whether Howe has taken us as far as he can. Delete where applicable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, timeEd32 said: I wonder if Villa Talk has done 20 pages on how Emery’s training methods endanger knee ligaments. Its tactics, not training methods, but the sharp turns that defensive players must do when a simple throughball bypasses your high backline can't be good for them. It sounds like injuries waiting to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Madrid have 3 ACLs too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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