Anthony Gordon

[STM]

I entirely agree in the sentiments above that he needs judged over a 12/18 month period.

 

First 6 months was poor, but we now understand why, he wasn't fit enough, neither was Isak by all accounts and I suspect the same transition is going on with Tonali and Barnes (as well as Livramento and Hall to a lesser extent).

 

More than ever, a settling in period seems important in an Eddie Howe side.

 

Give a player 6 months with Howe and you become fitter, more confident, better drilled and more rounded. The man works wonders with young (all) players.

 

Look at Jacob Murphy man. Howe had very little to work with there, and yet he's turned him into a very serviceable squad player, who the fans all trust.

 

Back to Gordon, these last few games have been unreal and part of me is holding back with praise because I'm expecting a drop off. The longer that drop off takes to materialise the more impressed I will be.

 

It's what's to come which is exciting to me. If Howe can turn Gordon, a 22 year old, into a good player in 6 months... what can he do over 2 or 3 years?

[Hudson]

 

[STM]

1 hour ago, Hudson said:

 

Was class this.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

His first 6 months were fine, totally normal for a young player moving clubs. We just hated him because he was a little scouse rat who people didn’t like. 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

Good video.

[Yorkie]

47 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

His first 6 months were fine, totally normal for a young player moving clubs. We just hated him because he was a little scouse rat who people didn’t like. 

 

Am I the only one who liked him from the word go?  Not that I thought his performances were exceptional but I thought he came across well (impassioned Brentford flounce aside) and had some canny games - Man Utd (h) springing immediately to mind. 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Am I the only one who liked him from the word go?

Nope.

[Lotus]

4 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

I agree with most of that. I remember discussing with Froggy in the summer even before the massive fall outs that Gordon was better value for money than Antony or Sancho.  He has more to his game than Antony and much better application than Sancho. 
 

I still want to see if he can pull off RW.  Barnes and him are better footballers than Almiron and Murphy.  

I have to say I think there is a good player in Sancho. Maybe not a natural winger but a creative playmaker starting in a wide position.

 

He needs runners off him though. All good passers do. He had that in abundance at Dortmund with Hakimi and to a lesser extent, Guerreiro. Not sure what’s happened with him at Man U but I’m sure it’s a complex situation that all parties want to resolve. Wish him the best.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, Lotus said:

I have to say I think there is a good player in Sancho. Maybe not a natural winger but a creative playmaker starting in a wide position.

 

He needs runners off him though. All good passers do. He had that in abundance at Dortmund with Hakimi and to a lesser extent, Guerreiro. Not sure what’s happened with him at Man U but I’m sure it’s a complex situation that all parties want to resolve. Wish him the best.

I don’t think the PL is so for him. It’s too intense and physical. He doesn’t fancy that. 
 

At his best he’s such an elegant footballer. As you say, pass and move. Great technique. He would shine in Serie A. But he doesn’t have that dog in him. Gives up easily. Not a fighter. If he was willing to do the work he would be great in a system team with great movement like Brighton. But he’s the type of lad to bottle a 70/30 in his favour. 

[nemtizz]

20 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Am I the only one who liked him from the word go?  Not that I thought his performances were exceptional but I thought he came across well (impassioned Brentford flounce aside) and had some canny games - Man Utd (h) springing immediately to mind. 

 

Anyone with eyes and a brain could tell he had something about him when he played, even if he didn't hit the ground running. Remember people writing him off in the first half against Soton despite the fact he played well, hit the post and was just generally unlucky. Didn't want us to sign him but now I love him. Opposition fans hating him makes him much more likeable, too.

 

 

[Lotus]

32 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I don’t think the PL is so for him. It’s too intense and physical. He doesn’t fancy that. 
 

At his best he’s such an elegant footballer. As you say, pass and move. Great technique. He would shine in Serie A. But he doesn’t have that dog in him. Gives up easily. Not a fighter. If he was willing to do the work he would be great in a system team with great movement like Brighton. But he’s the type of lad to bottle a 70/30 in his favour. 

 I remember he fought hard at Dortmund. He had to to cover Guerreiro’s horrendous defensive efforts. That hasn’t carried over to Man U, clearly.

 

Don’t know why but I hope he can sort it out. 

[Superior Acuña]

I think it'd have been criminal to disallow that goal because it deflecting off his arm. The rule is absolutely correct in this case and it should be used in that way more broadly. I think it's ridiculous that such decisive instances as goals and penalties can be disallowed/given because a ball deflect off an arm. Not at all within the spirit of the rules imo to disallow that for a ricochet, which is to prevent rugby cunts from actively using there hands/arm.

[The Bonk]

2 hours ago, Yorkie said:

 

Am I the only one who liked him from the word go?  Not that I thought his performances were exceptional but I thought he came across well (impassioned Brentford flounce aside) and had some canny games - Man Utd (h) springing immediately to mind. 

I was with ya, always thought he was a decent lad, just a firecracker on the pitch. He showed glimpses of what we’re seeing now at Everton. Gordon and Richarlison were the only players worth watching when Rafa was there.

 

DCL was good too, but the streak of injuries he’s had is so unlucky, but it could also be the shite physios at Everton. Clear as day Gordon’s fitness has improved immensely here. 
 

 

[elbee909]

Gordon's made me look a moron, Gordon's made me look a moron

[The College Dropout]

8 hours ago, Superior Acuña said:

I think it'd have been criminal to disallow that goal because it deflecting off his arm. The rule is absolutely correct in this case and it should be used in that way more broadly. I think it's ridiculous that such decisive instances as goals and penalties can be disallowed/given because a ball deflect off an arm. Not at all within the spirit of the rules imo to disallow that for a ricochet, which is to prevent rugby cunts from actively using there hands/arm.

Thats getting ruled as handball at Sunday local football like. I don’t think that one is against the spirit of the sport. But not complaining. By the rules it’s a goal. 

[1964]

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Thats getting ruled as handball at Sunday local football like. I don’t think that one is against the spirit of the sport. But not complaining. By the rules it’s a goal. 

Not the Sunday local football I played , that challenge on longstaff would have got a ripple of applause from both benches and a 'well in' from the ref 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by 1964

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, 1964 said:

Not the Sunday local football I played , that challenge on longstaff would have got a ripple of applause from both benches and a 'well in' from the ref 

 

 

 

That tackle wasn’t half as bad as was made out.  He came in with extra force but it wasn’t high or strong.  
 

The one your lot did on Longstaff was much worse. Shin high direct contact. Should’ve been a penalty and a red.  

[1964]

10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

That tackle wasn’t half as bad as was made out.  He came in with extra force but it wasn’t high or strong.  
 

The one your lot did on Longstaff was much worse. Shin high direct contact. Should’ve been a penalty and a red.  

My lot??

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, 1964 said:

My lot??

I’m confusing you for an Everton fan I think.  Think it was the Scouse defender from Wolves that broke Longstaff toe towards the end of last season 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by The College Dropout

[madras]

24 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

That tackle wasn’t half as bad as was made out.  He came in with extra force but it wasn’t high or strong.  
 

The one your lot did on Longstaff was much worse. Shin high direct contact. Should’ve been a penalty and a red.  

The follow through was high and reckless.

[chapdelaine]

Watch it again,it wasn’t high or reckless

[madras]

7 minutes ago, chapdelaine said:

Watch it again,it wasn’t high or reckless

Watch the follow through, not when he wins the ball.

[Lotus]

I think Longstaff’s momentum is as much to do with the follow through. If not more so. Longstaff was travelling faster than the SU player was. 
Thought it was a good tackle personally. Got the ball. Studs not up, etc.

[1964]

20 minutes ago, Lotus said:

I think Longstaff’s momentum is as much to do with the follow through. If not more so. Longstaff was travelling faster than the SU player was. 
Thought it was a good tackle personally. Got the ball. Studs not up, etc.

It's exactly the type of tackle they are, rightly in my opinion, trying to outlaw.  Even if you get the ball first, going in with that much force could easily seriously injure a player.  If longstaff had his weight on the standing leg it breaks, so getting the ball first cannot be the only consideration.  It's often the trailing leg that causes the damage

 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by 1964

[AyeDubbleYoo]

11 hours ago, Yorkie said:

 

Am I the only one who liked him from the word go?  Not that I thought his performances were exceptional but I thought he came across well (impassioned Brentford flounce aside) and had some canny games - Man Utd (h) springing immediately to mind. 

 

I thought it was a great signing, I just meant that the way he was perceived was generally the reason people didn't like him coming in. 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo