AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 14:25 Share Posted Monday at 14:25 1 minute ago, JT24 said: Think we’d be stupid to sell. Too many other priorities. It would be a significant step back IMO, we're talking about one of England's most promising young players here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 14:27 Share Posted Monday at 14:27 Reminder if we sell him we get to reinvest the money. I'm not at all concerned about selling him personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted Monday at 14:29 Share Posted Monday at 14:29 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It would be a significant step back IMO, we're talking about one of England's most promising young players here. Still have Barnes as the No1 and allow us to grab a couple of decent players who may improve over him, if not already there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted Monday at 14:29 Share Posted Monday at 14:29 Just now, r0cafella said: Reminder if we sell him we get to reinvest the money. I'm not at all concerned about selling him personally. Would be more concerned if it meant willock and Barnes are that sides wing options if we chose to gamble on not getting an out and out replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted Monday at 14:29 Share Posted Monday at 14:29 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It would be a significant step back IMO, we're talking about one of England's most promising young players here. I'm not one wanting to sell him, but I agree with roca - we can be quite sure any money received would be for a good purpose. So we don't need to think in terms of steps back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 14:29 Share Posted Monday at 14:29 Just now, r0cafella said: Reminder if we sell him we get to reinvest the money. I'm not at all concerned about selling him personally. Well from that POV I'm not against selling anyone. I know the money would be invested in any event. But I still think we can have a view on which players we would rather keep/use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted Monday at 14:30 Share Posted Monday at 14:30 Just now, nufcjmc said: Would be more concerned if it meant willock and Barnes are that sides wing options if we chose to gamble on not getting an out and out replacement. Willock may be on his way, wasn't Palace mentioned earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 14:30 Share Posted Monday at 14:30 Just now, 80 said: I'm not one wanting to sell him, but I agree with roca - we can be quite sure any money received would be for a good purpose. So we don't need to think in terms of steps back. Yeah but I think it does say something when you sell your top young players. Like, I wouldn't want to replace him with 2 Brighton-style spreadsheet players just because of PSR. Unless we have to, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted Monday at 14:32 Share Posted Monday at 14:32 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: It would be a significant step back IMO, we're talking about one of England's most promising young players here. It wouldn't be ideal, but a significant step back is a bit of a stretch given we'd likely only sell assuming we had someone else lined up (unless he requests to leave after he's told Liverpool want him and our hands are tied) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 14:33 Share Posted Monday at 14:33 Just now, Dr.Spaceman said: It wouldn't be ideal, but a significant step back is a bit of a stretch given we'd likely only sell assuming we had someone else lined up (unless he requests to leave after he's told Liverpool want him and our hands are tied) Depends on the significance of significant I suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 14:33 Share Posted Monday at 14:33 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Well from that POV I'm not against selling anyone. I know the money would be invested in any event. But I still think we can have a view on which players we would rather keep/use. We only need to be concerned about selling players whom can't be replaced. A healthy Isak, Sandro, Id throw Hall in there too. It's not that I actively want to sell Gordon, I just recognise we aren't owned by Ashley anymore and player trading on our terms is the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Monday at 14:34 Share Posted Monday at 14:34 8 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said: I wonder if Pool might come in for him this summer? Isn't Gakpo and Diaz both better in that position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted Monday at 14:37 Share Posted Monday at 14:37 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Yeah but I think it does say something when you sell your top young players. Like, I wouldn't want to replace him with 2 Brighton-style spreadsheet players just because of PSR. Unless we have to, obviously. I get the impression we've got no real intention of going for spreadsheet players. And I don't think we have to sell anyone this summer - far from it, but in a weird way I think that makes us a bit more likely to sell. Trading is definitely going to stay a part of our lives for the foreseeable future, and selling from a position of strength means we can extract maximum value rather than going to clubs with our begging bowl out. So we'll see. I'm certainly not expecting any big sales, but I won't be too surprised by some kind of surprise - it feels like we've got some significant moves in mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Monday at 15:21 Share Posted Monday at 15:21 (edited) I wouldn’t actively try to sell him, absolutely not. However, IF we get an offer that is very very good then I wouldn’t be against it. He’s very good but also a bit limited in some regards. Only makes some kind of sense to sell him if it means we can get a couple of extra quality players to strengthen in our weaker areas. I don’t rate him as highly as I do Botman, Hall, Isak, Bruno and Tonali. Edited Monday at 15:25 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 15:35 Share Posted Monday at 15:35 I feel like LW would instantly need reinforcements if the only good option was Barnes. Although I rate Barnes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Monday at 15:38 Share Posted Monday at 15:38 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I feel like LW would instantly need reinforcements if the only good option was Barnes. Although I rate Barnes. Of course it would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 15:40 Share Posted Monday at 15:40 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: Of course it would. So then we would maybe make a small profit on Gordon but need to spend 20-30m on a replacement. Edited Monday at 15:40 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted Monday at 15:42 Share Posted Monday at 15:42 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: So then we would maybe make a small profit on Gordon but need to spend 20-30m on a replacement. I wouldn’t sell him if it was for a tiny profit. Also, IF we did sell him then I would go for a very highly rated young winger and use the money for other areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted Monday at 16:00 Share Posted Monday at 16:00 (edited) His attitude has been awful since his dream move fell through last summer - out of our ‘big guns’, he’s easily the most replaceable - we’ve even got someone there now! Edited Monday at 16:05 by Paully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madrigal Posted Monday at 16:03 Share Posted Monday at 16:03 The way I judge an attacking player is what skillset do they possess if they lose their pace (possible serious injury)? Our best players across the pitch - Isak (finishing), Tonali (anticipation, set pieces), Bruno (press resistance, through balls), Botman (heading, passing, anticipation). Even Barnes (elite finishing) and Murphy (crossing, shooting),albeit an inferior player, offers more attacking threat if pace is impacted. Gordon is becoming predictable without the likeability factor of our other players. Although I feel he can improve further and we shouldn’t seek to actively sell him, if there is a deal to be done we should take the money - more LW options out there in the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted Monday at 16:14 Share Posted Monday at 16:14 6 hours ago, Zero said: This is going over the top FFS. Are LW a cursed position? Gordon is fine. He is just not in exceptional form like last season. You guys need your head checked if you think the starting left winger for England doesn’t worth 60m on the market. In a situation where you want to sell he is worth what other clubs wants to pay. If he is worth 60m+ to us then we probably won't sell, because I'm not seeing what team would pay big money for him right now. There are a lot of wingers out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted Monday at 16:20 Share Posted Monday at 16:20 (edited) 1 hour ago, JT24 said: Think we’d be stupid to sell. Too many other priorities. I agree, you don't want to make too many changes in one window. It's easier to swap out your players in windows where you don't have to make a bunch of other moves silmutaneously. This is why Chelsea struggled after their first few windows under their new owner, although ofcourse they were quite extreme. Edited Monday at 16:21 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted Monday at 16:21 Share Posted Monday at 16:21 What was special about his game last season was how aggressive he was in every part of his play, he was popping up with key goal contributions in big matches and his self-belief made him often times unplayable. We're not seeing that this season. It's glaring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted Monday at 17:06 Share Posted Monday at 17:06 We should sell him (and definitely not just because we lost yesterday and need a scapegoat). Can’t imagine how that kind of short-sighted, reactionary thinking could massively backfire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted Monday at 17:07 Share Posted Monday at 17:07 If Isak is fit, I'd be playing Barnes and Murphy next game. And that's from someone who was a bit wary of Barnes before his latest spell. Off the bench, if we're ahead, Gordon can come on and stretch them on the break. I always thought it would be the other way round with Barnes being the sub, but that's probably the form right now. Gordon didn't play badly in the last game (in fact the whole team played pretty well) other than one mistake, but I think he needs his confidence back. He hasn't really been the same player as last season except in spells. But I still wouldn't like to play against him if we sold him in the summer, not that I think that would be sensible or likely anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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