TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 07:31 Share Posted yesterday at 07:31 I don’t think the lad should be considered for sale at all, PSR or not I’d just rather that our support doesn’t expect or demand too much from the lad, let him develop, and let’s see how he goes. The excitement around him is the flip of what usually happens - our own end up being criticised hardest of all, when they don’t produce what people have told themselves they will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted yesterday at 07:34 Share Posted yesterday at 07:34 It already feels like he could stick around as a squad player (at the very least) for long time, given his 'neat and tidy' style of play. He does need to add something to his game, but this is something Eddie has alluded to previously when talking about him either being a more attacking or more defensive midfielder. The kid is 18, anything could happen over the next 3/4 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted yesterday at 07:34 Share Posted yesterday at 07:34 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I don’t think the lad should be considered for sale at all, PSR or not I’d just rather that our support doesn’t expect or demand too much from the lad, let him develop, and let’s see how he goes. The excitement around him is the flip of what usually happens - our own end up being criticised hardest of all, when they don’t produce what people have told themselves they will Not be sold probably go on loan to a decent bundesliga team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 07:36 Share Posted yesterday at 07:36 Just now, wyn davies said: Not be sold probably go on loan to a decent bundesliga team Yeah, that’s an interesting idea tbf. I’d just like to see the lad given the next couple of years pressure-free from the support. We should be looking to strengthen in CM, not relying on Miley just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 07:38 Share Posted yesterday at 07:38 3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: It already feels like he could stick around as a squad player (at the very least) for long time, given his 'neat and tidy' style of play. He does need to add something to his game, but this is something Eddie has alluded to previously when talking about him either being a more attacking or more defensive midfielder. The kid is 18, anything could happen over the next 3/4 years. Yep - he’s so young that it isn’t even clear what his position will end up being. He might bulk out a lot in the next couple of years. He’s got the right coaching team around him to help him develop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted yesterday at 07:43 Share Posted yesterday at 07:43 12 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: I was just listing a few players that I think are better (opinion based) I could of listed 10/15 more my point was , I think the drop off from Tonali , Bruno and Joelinton is massive and I think we need to sign at least 1 midfielder to fill that void. As it stands I don’t think the ones we have are good enough to come in and not see a big drop off. i know it’s hard to find players that are willing to sit on the bench, but I hope we can find someone that can come in and really effect/help the midfield if we get an injury to either / any of the 3 above Gibbs white would be another ,Mateus Fernandes at Southampton , Jacob Ramsey at villa , McGinn at villa as an experienced pro , Even a player like Tom Cairney at Fulham would be a better alternative! At least 1 midfielder from every premier league team would be a better alternative, hence why I don’t see the generational hype. Tom Cairney man How is it getting worse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted yesterday at 07:45 Share Posted yesterday at 07:45 He’s already really filled out. We’d be mad to even consider selling, Miley, bar a yard of pace, has everything needed to be top drawer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted yesterday at 07:54 Share Posted yesterday at 07:54 3 minutes ago, JT24 said: Tom Cairney man How is it getting worse? You're comparing an 18 year old kid coming off the back of a pretty serious injury to a very experienced professional with 5 and a half seasons in the PL under his belt... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted yesterday at 07:55 Share Posted yesterday at 07:55 Apparently benched for today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Miley isn't going anywhere, lads. Longstaff, Wilson and, to some degree, Willock are getting the nod before Miley for a number of reasons. Not least being his nurtured return from injury but also the experience and (perceived or otherwise) reliability. Needing to rest/save "starters" whilst defending leads is probably a time for safety first. In Eddie/MadDog we trust. Don't bother replying, if you could even be arsed in the first place 😂, with your individual critique of the qualities of those 3 aforementioned players. I'll just go with what Howe does, tbf 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago We probably won’t sell him, and I don’t want us to. He has a bright future. Having said that, let’s not kid ourselves that IF a very good offer comes in we might very well consider it. If the club see that the money in could be used for a better player and some more. One that is ready now to play on a regular basis without the quality in midfield dropping. It doesn’t mean that the club don’t believe in him. It could just be that they think there’s a quicker route to the top. It’s a different matter in the future where we won’t have to wheel and deal to the same degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GallowgatePigeon Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago A loan to the Bundesliga wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for his development but we're going to need him next season, his time will come. We shouldn't even be entertaining the notion of selling him. Sure, he's far from the finished article but if he's got it in him, Eddie will find it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Fun, and seemingly widely unknown, fact. Miley isn't actually "slow" - quite the opposite in fact as analysis data will bear out. His perceived "lack of pace" may be due to the fact that in his appearances to date he hasn't been in a role to go on blistering runs. Wait for it, it will be quite a revelation. On the broader point his "problem" is (though it's not really a problem) that he is an 18 year old in a squad which has the best performing midfield 3 in football right now. If that 3 are going to play 50 odd games without suspension, injury or anything else then yes he needs to move on. Of course any sane person, or non-journalist, knows that that is not going to happen and next season (if not already this) he is our next best midfield player. Can't see any situation, currently, where it would make sense to let him go. Is there anywhere else that would be better for a talented 18 year old midfielder, than to be working with those 3, as well as the rest of our highly talented and motivated squad, right now ? We, like him, just need to be a little bit patient for now but his time will definitely come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Would be horrified if we sold Miley. I don't think we'd consider it but I'm perturbed by the gossip. It feels agent driven and if he's fussing about lack of game time then we need to get him out on loan. He can definitely feel aggrieved about being behind Longstaff in the pecking order, though hopefully that's just a means to an end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Would be horrified if we sold Miley. I don't think we'd consider it but I'm perturbed by the gossip. It feels agent driven and if he's fussing about lack of game time then we need to get him out on loan. Letting him out on loan would more or less not get us any money in whatsoever We would then have to get two CM in. We are very light in that area when you consider that we play with 3. I don’t see Longstaff staying beyond this season either. Especially light in quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Letting him out on loan would more or less not get us any money in whatsoever We would then have to get two CM in. We are very light in that area when you consider that we play with 3. I don’t see Longstaff staying beyond this season either. Especially light in quality. *or get him in the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: *or get him in the team Aye. I think he’ll get plenty of games next season tbh. Hopefully he can have a proper preseason this time and really kick on and challenge. So so many games to be played too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, JT24 said: Tom Cairney man How is it getting worse? Yes , Tom Cairney if it was a straight choice for a game played tonight and I had to choose! Age is irrelevant in my point , my point is we are living in the here and now and we need better (squad) and 1st team players to close the huge gap/drop off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, TBG said: Apparently benched for today. he’s always benched 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago Just now, lovejoy said: he’s always benched 😂 Double benched? Talk about insult to injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago (edited) Maybe it's just me like, but I personally wouldn't play a 34 year old Tom Carney over Miley in a flash and I would be amazed if Howe would either. Miley will be getting a lot of attention in the background. McGinn obviously walks in ahead of him, but Jacob Ramsey and Mateus Fernandes I dunno? I don't think there's much to suggest either would get in ahead of Miley after another pre-season? Edited 22 hours ago by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 47 minutes ago, GallowgatePigeon said: A loan to the Bundesliga wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for his development but we're going to need him next season, his time will come. We shouldn't even be entertaining the notion of selling him. Sure, he's far from the finished article but if he's got it in him, Eddie will find it. If we loan him we need to sign 2 CMs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Maybe it's just me like, but I personally wouldn't play a 34 year old Tom Carney over Miley in a flash and I would be amazed if Howe would either. Miley will be getting a lot of attention in the background. McGinn obviously walks in ahead of him, but Jacob Ramsey and Mateus Fernandes I dunno? I don't think there's much to suggest either would get in ahead of Miley after another pre-season? Tom Cairney man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago Fkn hell lads, he's 18. I repeat, 18. He's got years ahead of him and could, hopefully, be absolutely fantastic in 3 years time. At which point he'll have reached the ripe old age of 21. I'm all in on Miley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, KennyUtd said: Fkn hell lads, he's 18. I repeat, 18. He's got years ahead of him and could, hopefully, be absolutely fantastic in 3 years time. At which point he'll have reached the ripe old age of 21. I'm all in on Miley. Aye but he could be shit therefore we should buy Tom Cairney instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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