Match Atmosphere

[Wandy]

Just now, brummie said:

Do you still sing "An N and an E and a WUBBLEYOO C, A and S and T L E, U N I and T E D Newcastle United FC"? I recall that from my regular match attendance at SJP in the 80s.

 

I also recall "We've got Mirandinha, he's not from Argentina, he's from Brazil, he's fucking brill" plus one with some low level racism about Tony Cunningham.

Nope. The first one you mention used to be one of our biggest songs. Barely gets an airing now. Same with the Blaydon Races and also the plain old “Newcastle, Newcastle’ one. It’s really grim, and the only thing that can change it is by getting back the people who walked in sheer desperation over the Ashley era.

 

What is your opinion of Villa’s modern support and songbook etc?

[HaydnNUFC]

Do have to say that 'Holte Enders in the sky yippee ay yay yippee ay ooooh' chant grinds on me like fuck. @brummie 

[brummie]

Just now, Wandy said:

Nope. The first one you mention used to be one of our biggest songs. Barely gets an airing now. Same with the Blaydon Races and also the plain old “Newcastle, Newcastle’ one. It’s really grim, and the only thing that can change it is by getting back the people who walked in sheer desperation over the Ashley era.

 

What is your opinion of Villa’s modern support and songbook etc?

 

I fucking hate that version (everyone seems to have one) of the Napoli 'un giorno all'improviso' (ale ale ale, that one) that we turn out every 3 minutes. It makes me cringe, it's so unoriginal.

 

I remember loads more songs from the 70s and 80s that don't exist any more.

 

Although oddly, a couple of them which reference Nigel Spink, Tony Daley, David Platt and (Tony Cascarino) still get aired a bit. As does one referencing Paul Birch (RIP) and Alan McInally.

[brummie]

1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

Do have to say that 'Holte Enders in the sky yippee ay yay yippee ay ooooh' chant grinds on me like fuck. @brummie 

 

Yeah, everyone else hates it too.

 

Although that one dates back to the 50s / 60s.

 

Another popular one, Hi Ho Aston Villa is weird as Wolves and Sheffield Wednesday also use that song (as mentioned on MOTD this year when Jeff Beck died).

[Wandy]

1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Sometimes.

 

Yes and the Tony Cunningham one Shearer recalled when talking to Ian Wright about racism in football. Never knew about that one until I saw that. Dear me.

The Cunningham song was well intentioned but definitely of it’s time. His signing was the beginning of the end of the racist stuff from elements of our support though. And I’d say the Andy Cole signing effectively killed the racism stone dead.

[brummie]

1 minute ago, Wandy said:

The Cunningham song was well intentioned but definitely of it’s time. His signing was the beginning of the end of the racist stuff from elements of our support though. And I’d say the Andy Cole signing effectively killed the racism stone dead.

 

Not too sure about that, I can recall hearing it sung with two pronunciations of Cunningham which lent it totally different meanings.

[Wandy]

2 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

I fucking hate that version (everyone seems to have one) of the Napoli 'un giorno all'improviso' (ale ale ale, that one) that we turn out every 3 minutes. It makes me cringe, it's so unoriginal.

 

I remember loads more songs from the 70s and 80s that don't exist any more.

 

Although oddly, a couple of them which reference Nigel Spink, Tony Daley, David Platt and (Tony Cascarino) still get aired a bit. As does one referencing Paul Birch (RIP) and Alan McInally.

Is the Allez Allez song not an original from the dippers? I have noticed that more fanbases are starting to plagiarise it, with Villa being one of the main culprits.

[Wandy]

1 minute ago, brummie said:

 

Not too sure about that, I can recall hearing it sung with two pronunciations of Cunningham which lent it totally different meanings.

Really? I might be thinking of a different song then. But the actual signing definitely put a big spoke in the wheel of our racist element back then.

[brummie]

1 minute ago, Wandy said:

Is the Allez Allez song not an original from the dippers? I have noticed that more fanbases are starting to plagiarise it, with Villa being one of the main culprits.

 

No, it originated with Napoli. 

 

 

[brummie]

Just now, Wandy said:

Really? I might be thinking of a different song then. But the actual signing definitely put a big spoke in the wheel of our racist element back then.

 

He's black, he's broon

He's playing for the Toon

Cunningham, Cunningham

[Wandy]

5 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

Yeah, everyone else hates it too.

 

Although that one dates back to the 50s / 60s.

 

Another popular one, Hi Ho Aston Villa is weird as Wolves and Sheffield Wednesday also use that song (as mentioned on MOTD this year when Jeff Beck died).

I absolutely hate that Hi Ho one that gets sung. Also that Mull of Kintyre shit from Forest. Absolute cringefest stuff.

[brummie]

Just now, Wandy said:

I absolutely hate that Hi Ho one that gets sung. Also that Mull of Kintyre shit from Forest. Absolute cringefest stuff.

 

Easily the absolutely worst song sung anywhere in English football is the Spurs slow version of When the Spurs (Saints, actually you cunts) Go Marching In.

 

It's absolutely terrible.

[Danh1]

Just now, Wandy said:

I absolutely hate that Hi Ho one that gets sung. Also that Mull of Kintyre shit from Forest. Absolute cringefest stuff.

Aye I hate Mull of Kintyre like, awful.

 

Have to concur with others re our songs. Even that new Willock one is nicked from Villa, shameless as fuck.

 

Unless a song has about 5 words though it will never be sang by the whole of SJP. 

[Wandy]

8 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

He's black, he's broon

He's playing for the Toon

Cunningham, Cunningham

Yeah that’s the one. Staggering really but I don’t think it was ever sung from a derogative perspective. Not that this made it remotely acceptable of course.

 

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Wandy

[Wandy]

5 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

No, it originated with Napoli. 

I never knew that actually. I just saw a video of that Jamie Webster singing it in front of them and thought they had come up with it themselves.

[brummie]

5 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

Aye I hate Mull of Kintyre like, awful.

 

Have to concur with others re our songs. Even that new Willock one is nicked from Villa, shameless as fuck.

 

Unless a song has about 5 words though it will never be sang by the whole of SJP. 

 

What is the Willock one?

 

EDIT googled, it's the Coutinho one.

 

I hate that one, too. Ours, I mean.

 

 

Edited April 16, 2023 by brummie

[Conjo]

Always hoped we would adopt the Iceland chant and just shout "Toon". Would sound awesome in a full St. James' Park if the purists would accept one guy to use a drum a few times a match. There's enough Nordic heritage in the NE to justify it surely?

[Wallsendmag]

1 hour ago, Hovagod said:

Nonsense 

 

Of course it did. Pre Ashley and including the first few years of his reign we had a varied songbook that included many traditional Newcastle songs. Post Ashley we have a boring generic songbook and the support is far different these days. Any regular at the match over the past 15 years could see how the support has changed over that time, and not for the better. Something changed during those years.

 

Speaking from my own experience I know loads of lads, lads I'd have classed as diehard fans, travelled across Europe, midweek aways to the far end of tne Country etc who drifted away during Ashley (some are back at the home games now but can't get access to away tickets) and I've also seen new fans replacing them as crowds remained pretty constant. People who only had a passing interest and in some cases no interest at all (one lad I know who now has a ST in L7 with his son once told me several years ago that he'd rather watch Coronation Street than a football match!) have taken their place but it's to the detriment of the atmosphere, or more specifically the songbook, which is the most boring we've had in my lifetime.

[Wallsendmag]

1 hour ago, brummie said:

 

He's black, he's broon

He's playing for the Toon

Cunningham, Cunningham

 

Also remember it being sung about Franz Carr in the very early 90s. Groups of people singing it outside the ground before his home debut v Watford. Thankfully it never really took off once inside. As has been mentioned there was still a racist undertone around the place at that time but the Andy Cole signing the following year more or less killed that stone dead.

[Holloway]

It was sung about Howard Gayle early 80s,inside the ground

[NUFC91]

Only thing club has done wrong imo is this corporate section. 600 on saturday apparently.

 

You can tell as well as near where I was there was people who almost looked like they didnt want to be there. Speaking to my mates who I work with who are chelsea and Man utd home and away they comment on fans at their games who don't even know songs who are clearly tourists...Feels like that with some fans we attract now. Its less noticed in smaller grounds or more attractive fixtures. Take Brentford ever song me and 2 mates would start would spread across whole away end in seconds...not so much saturday.

 

Also at brentford when starting older chants everyone knew them. We had...hark now here, we hate nottingham forest, fullwell end, we are the geordies the cock of north...

[Hovagod]

Was shit in the upper tier on Saturday. Kick off time, lack of alcohol (why?), and team performance all factors 

[NUFC91]

3 minutes ago, Hovagod said:

Was shit in the upper tier on Saturday. Kick off time, lack of alcohol (why?), and team performance all factors 

 

Doesnt help but i've been to mid week away games were we havent won away all season better.

 

My take from being there seemed to be loads first timers, tourists etc.

[brummie]

1 hour ago, Hovagod said:

Was shit in the upper tier on Saturday. Kick off time, lack of alcohol (why?), and team performance all factors 

 

I've no idea why but they never sell booze in the away end.

 

It makes no sense. I can confirm that even in the bits of the ground where they do sell booze, it takes so long to get served it's impossible to get a drink most of the time anyway.

 

Also, don't know what they expect people who arrive at the ground at the most 20 minutes before kick off to do, get pissed? The ones who want to get pissed will arrive pre-pissed.

[Wandy]

The home crowd had better be up for this tomorrow. None of this “we were nervous” crap. No excuses, just lift the team throughout.