NUFC91 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I don’t know anyone who likes the level 7 experience you feel detached and as many have said you may as well just watch it on the box. Which begs the question why are so many opposed to leaving SJP ? I get the tradition and history, but the reality is the atmosphere and supporter experience is sub-standard, especially for the prices being charged this season. Agreed I think people forget what and how good you can make modern stadiums. 4 level stands at 65k with an end for standing, improved bars and facilities. The 2 larger stands make a stadium expansion really difficult to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, NUFC91 said: Agreed I think people forget what and how good you can make modern stadiums. 4 level stands at 65k with an end for standing, improved bars and facilities. The 2 larger stands make a stadium expansion really difficult to work. Precisely we could build something really iconic which would have people soon forgetting about SJP when they see it going up. The reason folk are having difficulty getting in the ground on the East Side of the stadium is simply due to access. The East Stand has always had lengthy queue’s that resemble a scrum, throw in digital ticketing and it’s no wonder it’s a shambles. Just another example of the poorly planned introduction of digital ticketing. SJP has had its day in its current guise much like Manchester United are realising with Old Trafford. Lets see what this feasibility study brings and I’ve got a feeling all options including a new stadium will be on the table when they announce its findings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I’m fully in the camp of needing a new stadium like. It’s tired, and it feels like everything they’d do to increase capacity etc, would be a temporary patch on the problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, jack j said: Didnt really understand what you meant at the time. Just had a scan back through...and still not sure what the question to me is? I haven't a clue about Simon and all his tickets? I was on about transferring my pals ticket over to my daughter on a game by game basis. As for yesterday I was in the ground by 2.15 no bother at all The Liverpool game I couldnt get away from work til 3.45. Managed to get to the turnstile for 4.15 didn't get in until close to 10 minutes gone Last year I would have been in the ground 10 mins before kick off Surely you can see people's frustration and realise not everyone can change their plans for every single game. Fair enough maybe it was someone else. Totally see the frustration. Like I said after Villa I predicted fights at some point this season. The technology seems to work with very varying degrees. I feel for those who genuinely struggle to make it to ground early whereas others I don’t. It’s simple maths really… if it’s taking everyone on average 30 seconds longer for argument sake to get into the ground then x that per thousands in each queue for turnstile. The smallest of delays are always going to multiply for events of this size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Re the Fulwell End - isn't it easy enough just to change the word? Since I was a kid I'd sing that but skip that word. It's a one syllable word that isn't part of a rhyme, easily replaced. Some freaks probably committed to it. Not that it's a special chant like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) Aye I agree regarding a new stadium, it'll break my heart to leave SJP, I've been going since 1984 and stood in the west stand paddock as a kid, saw it transform massively in the 90s. However going to a new stadium gives us a chance to fix the demand for tickets issue, the atmosphere issue, potentially the access to ground issues, generate bigger revenues, all in one hit if they get it right. For me it has the be city centre though, or we loose a massive part of the club's identity, and the businesses in the city loose a huge amount of matchday money. Edited October 1, 2023 by Bally21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bally21 said: Aye I agree regarding a new stadium, it'll break my heart to leave SJP, I've been going since 1984 and stood in the west stand paddock as a kid, saw it transform massively in the 90s. However going to a new stadium gives us a chance to fix the demand for tickets issue, the atmosphere issue, potentially the access to ground issues, generate bigger revenues, all in one hit if they get it right. For me it has the be city centre though, or we loose a massive part of the club's identity, and the businesses in the city loose a huge amount of matchday money. Play at the Stadium of Light whilst we totally renovate SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Sounds decent here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Play at the Stadium of Light whilst we totally renovate SJP. If that's what floats ya boat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) Has anyone in England built a new ground and the atmosphere has improved? None that i’m aware of. Edited October 1, 2023 by Bellis80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 18 hours ago, Whitley mag said: I don’t know anyone who likes the level 7 experience you feel detached and as many have said you may as well just watch it on the box. Which begs the question why are so many opposed to leaving SJP ? I get the tradition and history, but the reality is the atmosphere and supporter experience is sub-standard, especially for the prices being charged this season. I don't go in for all this every new stadium is soulless argument either. Anyone who was at any of the derbies at the SoL in the late 90s will tell you it was anything but soulless. Also been to the likes of Benfica and Sporting and you could never class either of those places as soulless. SJP is looking increasingly outdated. I was in L7 on Saturday and it's a pretty miserable experience. If anything you could class that as soulless. You feel detached from the rest of the ground, too far away from the action and the atmosphere up there is woeful. I would genuinely rather watch on TV than up there. Sight lines were very poor as well. We were in Row F and had a huge railing blocking our view of the Leazes End goal. If a site could be secured at the Town Moor/Castle Leazes or down by the Arena it's a no brainer to build a super modern 70k arena. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 13 hours ago, Bellis80 said: Has anyone in England built a new ground and the atmosphere has improved? None that i’m aware of. I think It's more to do with support in this country nowadays than the ground itself though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earp Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Agreed. It’s not a new stadium I would oppose, its a potential site out of the City. Can’t see pp being granted on Leazes Park, but the arena site is a possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 16 hours ago, Bellis80 said: Has anyone in England built a new ground and the atmosphere has improved? None that i’m aware of. Its more relocation of fans thst benifit. You can actuallu group people together. Also in regards to new stadiums and atmosphere look no further than Argintina fans in the world cup last winter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Can they not just make the whole of level 7 a singing section? Surely no one would complain about getting shifted out of there and if singers with better seats want to improve the atmosphere enough I'm sure they would be willing to move from further down and sacrifice their view to be part of the greater good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Back in 2010/11 the Level 7 “Leazes Corner” was class. 3000 or so stood all game, everyone singing. Disbanded because thin skinned Ashley didn’t like nasty songs about him. Recall one banner up there saying “Ashley is a cockney rapist”, tug of war between the stewards and fans holding it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, pedro111 said: Can they not just make the whole of level 7 a singing section? Surely no one would complain about getting shifted out of there and if singers with better seats want to improve the atmosphere enough I'm sure they would be willing to move from further down and sacrifice their view to be part of the greater good. Some of wor lot would twist on 21, so I wouldn’t be so sure there wouldn’t be much complaining sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Back in 2010/11 the Level 7 “Leazes Corner” was class. 3000 or so stood all game, everyone singing. Disbanded because thin skinned Ashley didn’t like nasty songs about him. Recall one banner up there saying “Ashley is a cockney rapist”, tug of war between the stewards and fans holding it. The Cockney rapist banner was fantastic mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Has to be electric tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rafalove said: Has to be electric tonight. Great if it was like Barca and a wall of noise on them coming out, booing their lineup, singing through the anthem and not stopping for kickoff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 The Barcelona game was the best atmosphere I’ve ever experienced. Genuinely felt as if the stadium was shaking. And that was at 36k. I have wondered whether it was actually as good as I remember, as I was relatively young at the time, but then I see the clips on TV again, and I feel reassured it’s not just my memory playing tricks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, SteV said: The Barcelona game was the best atmosphere I’ve ever experienced. Genuinely felt as if the stadium was shaking. And that was at 36k. I have wondered whether it was actually as good as I remember, as I was relatively young at the time, but then I see the clips on TV again, and I feel reassured it’s not just my memory playing tricks. Seem to remember there was no alcohol in the stadium because we were all necking pints in the Goose(or rather whatever it was previously) then sprinted to the ground at 7.30to make the teams coming out, place was absolutely bussing in the streets, concourse the lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Fezzle said: Seem to remember there was no alcohol in the stadium because we were all necking pints in the Goose(or rather whatever it was previously) then sprinted to the ground at 7.30to make the teams coming out, place was absolutely bussing in the streets, concourse the lot Not that I can really remember, but you’re probably right as I think they only lifted the alcohol ban at CL matches about 5 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, SteV said: Not that I can really remember, but you’re probably right as I think they only lifted the alcohol ban at CL matches about 5 years ago. Actually it was definitely no alcohol as my mate paid about £40 on beers in the Nou Camp to find it was Sin Alcohol haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 Still serve non alcoholic beer at the Nou Camp for the CL. Was there for the Inter game last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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