SteveMc Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Joelinton chance should have been 0.5 on its own. Much more than a half chance I thought ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 It’s getting pretty boring hearing along the lines of “Newcastle created plenty of chances again but couldn’t convert them” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Again, that tells me that the ‘xG’ stuff is a right load of shite. Qualitative not quantitative yet it’s used as a statistical proof of chances created. It's definitely not a right load of shite like. There are flaws, but it's generally very useful and tells you how a game has gone vs the actual result. We have an xG of like 15 for 2023, but have scored 3 goals. At a very basic level that tells us that we're creating chances but not taking them, and I think if you watch our matches, that's definitely the case. Edited March 5, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Not sure if I posted here or elsewhere but whilst those are usually never given as penalties as he got his shot away but it reminded me of the penalty Nketiah got against Ederson, he got his shot away but was caught after The commentators were adamant it was a penalty, whilst technically it was the counter argument is that those are never given and we've seen that today and a few other games too That's the one I was thinking of but couldnt remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Incidentally they showed our conversation rate for this season on MOTD and we're 15th on it for the full season. That just goes to show where the problem lies. We must be bottom for 2023 like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) I know context is required. As similar to the cup final. They probably sat off a bit with a lead. But it’s so refreshing to play top teams and not have about 200-300 less passes and 30-40% less possession. From Sky Sports: 56%-44% 539-410 I think that is the most positive thing, for me from yesterday and the season in general. Under Howe, we almost always seem to be in games. Even against teams that are currently better than us. Edited March 5, 2023 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 17 hours ago, reefatoon said: If you put as much passion into following the club as you do towards your relative on the coaching staff you would understand what it’s like. I’ve put plenty of effort into supporting the club, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pups Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I know context is required. As similar to the cup final. They probably sat off a bit with a lead. But it’s so refreshing to play top teams and not have about 200-300 less passes and 30-40% less possession. From Sky Sports: 56%-44% 539-410 I think that is the most positive thing, for me from yesterday and the season in general. Under Howe, we almost always seem to be in games. Even against teams that are currently better than us. was listening to that chris wilder who was keen to play down our domination in possession and claimed man utd just let newcastle have the ball because they had the 2 goal cushion, whilst there is probably some truth in that he neglected to add that man utd's goals were against the run of play. not the first time he's been eager to steal credit from us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 'the usual morgue-like atmosphere hardly inspiring Pep & Co.' Shots fired from .com Edited March 5, 2023 by Klaus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Pups Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 54 minutes ago, Klaus said: 'the usual morgue-like atmosphere hardly inspiring Pep & Co.' Shots fired from .com must of the cunts sitting in the colin bell stand probably don't know who he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: It's definitely not a right load of shite like. There are flaws, but it's generally very useful and tells you how a game has gone vs the actual result. We have an xG of like 15 for 2023, but have scored 3 goals. At a very basic level that tells us that we're creating chances but not taking them, and I think if you watch our matches, that's definitely the case. Don’t think I’ll ever understand why people think it’s rubbish. It’s basically the underlying data behind “we are playing really well but aren’t scoring” which fans say all the time lol. Conversely, we are playing really badly but somehow scoring from the little that we create. It’s the best metric we have imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoForJoy Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Klaus said: 'the usual morgue-like atmosphere hardly inspiring Pep & Co.' Shots fired from .com The number of home fans there yesterday with half and half scarves on was embrassing. It looked like a huge number of their support were day trippers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: It's definitely not a right load of shite like. There are flaws, but it's generally very useful and tells you how a game has gone vs the actual result. We have an xG of like 15 for 2023, but have scored 3 goals. At a very basic level that tells us that we're creating chances but not taking them, and I think if you watch our matches, that's definitely the case. You don’t need xG to tell anyone that. Someone sat noting ‘that’s a chance … that’s a half chance … I reckon you score that one one in ten times …’ is obviously qualitative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: You don’t need xG to tell anyone that. Someone sat noting ‘that’s a chance … that’s a half chance … I reckon you score that one one in ten times …’ is obviously qualitative. Of course you do, it's why data science is as popular as it successful. If you want to track trends and make the right changes, xG is obviously very useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: Joelinton chance should have been 0.5 on its own. XG has a Joelinton coefficient built in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Analysis of our game at around 7.30 for any fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/mar/08/kyle-walker-could-face-police-action-after-exposing-himself-in-a-bar I demand a replay! Of the match that is, not Kyle Walker's .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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