Yankuba Minteh (now playing for Brighton & Hove Albion)

[Erikse]

On 30/07/2024 at 12:20, tarie4 said:

We all want the best for Newcastle while we may have differing opinions on the matter, let us respectfully agree to disagree. 33 million was fantastic business for an untested player.

 

And if it wasn't for PSR, do you think we would've accepted that bid? Because if it's fantastic business, surely we would, right?

[TBG]

28 minutes ago, gdm said:

Amuses me the ones that can’t bare talking about minteh when he scores  now high horsing now that Murphy scored more

 

It's not actually that though is it?

 

It's more Minteh has been made out to the next messiah and or Salah even though he hasn't kicked a ball for us, or in the Premier Leage. 

 

His performances and two goals in preseason apparently adds credence to the above.

 

You've then got Murphy who has kicked a ball in the Premier League, done an albeit not spectacular but solid job for us, yet to some he's absolute dog dirt and his performances and goals in preseason aren't an indication of how he'll play in the Premier League.

 

 

 

[gdm]

1 minute ago, TBG said:

 

It's not actually that though is it?

 

It's more Minteh has been made out to the next messiah and or Salah even though he hasn't kicked a ball for us, or in the Premier Leage. 

 

His performances and two goals in preseason apparently adds credence to the above.

 

You've then got Murphy who has kicked a ball in the Premier League, done an albeit not spectacular but solid job for us, yet to some he's absolute dog dirt and his performances and goals in preseason aren't an indication of how he'll play in the Premier League.

 

 

 

It is tho. Comparing them is irrelevant. You can be pleased Murphy is showing good signs in pre season and gutted minteh has been sold 

[Hanshithispantz]

I don't get the punchline?

[Unbelievable]

8 minutes ago, TBG said:

 

It's not actually that though is it?

 

It's more Minteh has been made out to the next messiah and or Salah even though he hasn't kicked a ball for us, or in the Premier Leage. 

 

His performances and two goals in preseason apparently adds credence to the above.

 

You've then got Murphy who has kicked a ball in the Premier League, done an albeit not spectacular but solid job for us, yet to some he's absolute dog dirt and his performances and goals in preseason aren't an indication of how he'll play in the Premier League.

 

 

 

[The College Dropout]

2 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

Suggesting he may end up being worth more than £32m and/or the medium/long term solution to our RW issues = the next Messiah and/or Salah

[Shearergol]

To be fair, the situation was compared to Chelsea getting rid of Salah.

[Unbelievable]

1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

To be fair, the situation was compared to Chelsea getting rid of Salah.

Comparing a club potentially coming to regret letting a youngster go to a club having let a player go and probably regretting it is not the same as comparing two players and concluding they are of similar quality though is it?

[Shearergol]

Just now, Unbelievable said:

Comparing a club potentially coming to regret letting a youngster go to a club having let a player go and probably regretting it is not the same as comparing two players and concluding they are of similar quality though is it?

 

Not necessarily, no. But not necessarily not either. 

 

Do we think Chelsea actually do regret Salah leaving btw? Was he turning into the same player there? Perhaps the move made the man.

[Shearergol]

Is this whole argument about whether or not we MAY regret letting him go? Can tell we're out of season

[Unbelievable]

11 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

Is this whole argument about whether or not we MAY regret letting him go? Can tell we're out of season

That one argument was. Why are you in here re-hashing old arguments while at the same time criticising people for posting in here?

[tarie4]

1 hour ago, Erikse said:

 

And if it wasn't for PSR, do you think we would've accepted that bid? Because if it's fantastic business, surely we would, 

Put it this way, Carroll was sold for 35 million. I wouldn't have accepted that bid for Carroll, but the club did. I was sad, but I still said it was fantastic business.

I must admit that if there was no PSR I would not have personally accepted a bid of 33 million for Miniteh, however, if the club chose to accept such an offer, I would still acknowledge it as a remarkable piece of business. 33 million for Miniteh in my opinion is fantastic business. 

[TRon]

2 hours ago, TBG said:

 

It's not actually that though is it?

 

It's more Minteh has been made out to the next messiah and or Salah even though he hasn't kicked a ball for us, or in the Premier Leage. 

 

His performances and two goals in preseason apparently adds credence to the above.

 

You've then got Murphy who has kicked a ball in the Premier League, done an albeit not spectacular but solid job for us, yet to some he's absolute dog dirt and his performances and goals in preseason aren't an indication of how he'll play in the Premier League.

 

 

 

 

The real yardstick of this is which player other clubs are after. We had a three way tug of war over Minteh with one club apparently offering £40m. There's probably a reason why that's never been the case for Murphy, and it's not all down to age.

[TBG]

14 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

The real yardstick of this is which player other clubs are after. We had a three way tug of war over Minteh with one club apparently offering £40m. There's probably a reason why that's never been the case for Murphy, and it's not all down to age.

 

There was no tug of war for Isak, Gordon or Bruno.

 

Applying your logic Minteh is better than them. 

 

[TRon]

3 minutes ago, TBG said:

 

There was no tug of war for Isak, Gordon or Bruno.

 

Applying your logic Minteh is better than them. 

 

 

Are you seriously comparing Murphy to those players? Point is we could sell all of them for big money if they were for sale, but they aren't. That's the only reason there's no tug of war for them.

[et tu brute]

21 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

The real yardstick of this is which player other clubs are after. We had a three way tug of war over Minteh with one club apparently offering £40m. There's probably a reason why that's never been the case for Murphy, and it's not all down to age.

He's gone, we have kept our purples and only time will tell if it was a mistake or an absolute brilliant fee we received.

 

One thing I will say though, as I keep hearing that he must be good as a couple of clubs were after him, if that's the case, why is it that his manager from last year was not interested in signing him? Money certainly wouldn't have been a problem. 

[TBG]

7 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Are you seriously comparing Murphy to those players? Point is we could sell all of them for big money if they were for sale, but they aren't. That's the only reason there's no tug of war for them.

 

I can't see I made any comparison, so no.

 

My point is, you're using the logic that clubs being in for Minteh, must mean he's a good player.

 

So applying the same logic Jeff Hendrick must be a good player if 2 or 3 teams come forward to sign him. 

[The Prophet]

TBG is timeless.

[tarie4]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

TBG is timeless.

It continues to rumble on without my involvement my good sir, and it will do so for a very long time.

However, I find it intriguing that the individuals who assert their knowledge of PSR and the club's financial situation are the same ones who complain about the sale of Minteh.

Surely, if you are well-informed about the club's finances, you would not persistently complain about the sale of Minteh. It is understandable to express disappointment initially, but after that, becausenof your "indepth" understanding of the rules it is important to accept the situation and move on.

The club is obviously hurt by losing Miniteh, and so are many but we've accepted that it was necessary and moved on. They even folded in the Ashworth saga, if the rumors are true. But hey, they got Mitchellin a few days later. They've moved on, man.

 

This is the aspect that I find most perplexing, Some people just can't let go and keep whining about stuff we can't do anything about now.

[Shearergol]

2 hours ago, Unbelievable said:

That one argument was. Why are you in here re-hashing old arguments while at the same time criticising people for posting in here?

I’m not am I? When did I criticise people for posting? Just the content I find a bit boring.

[The Prophet]

2 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

It continues to rumble on without my involvement my good sir, and it will do so for a very long time.

However, I find it intriguing that the individuals who assert their knowledge of PSR and the club's financial situation are the same ones who complain about the sale of Minteh.

Surely, if you are well-informed about the club's finances, you would not persistently complain about the sale of Minteh. It is understandable to express disappointment initially, but after that, becausenof your "indepth" understanding of the rules it is important to accept the situation and move on.

The club is obviously hurt by losing Miniteh, and so are many but we've accepted that it was necessary and moved on. They even folded in the Ashworth saga, if the rumors are true. But hey, they got Mitchellin a few days later. They've moved on, man.

 

This is the aspect that I find most perplexing, Some people just can't let go and keep whining about stuff we can't do anything about now.

 

My initial comment was tongue in cheek, granted to say the argument has been done to death would be an understatement.

 

I think it's possible to roughly determine our PSR position, granted it's impossible to do do accurately without full access to our up to date accounts. Similarly, we'll most likely never fully know what occurred leading up to the PSR deadline and why, we can only hypothesise. Nothing wrong with that, unfortunately we've heard some of these theories multiple times, across multiple threads.

[TRon]

34 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

He's gone, we have kept our purples and only time will tell if it was a mistake or an absolute brilliant fee we received.

 

One thing I will say though, as I keep hearing that he must be good as a couple of clubs were after him, if that's the case, why is it that his manager from last year was not interested in signing him? Money certainly wouldn't have been a problem. 

 

It's a fair question. Who do Liverpool have on the RW? Would he have been able to offer Minteh a route to first team football?

 

[et tu brute]

Just now, TRon said:

 

It's a fair question. Who do Liverpool have on the RW? Would he have been able to offer Minteh a route to first team football?

 

Salah currently but he's not going to be there much longer. 

[TRon]

Just now, et tu brute said:

Salah currently but he's not going to be there much longer. 

 

So who is next in the pecking order if Salah is presumably going to leave?

 

 

[tarie4]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

My initial comment was tongue in cheek, granted to say the argument has been done to death would be an understatement.

 

I think it's possible to roughly determine our PSR position, granted it's impossible to do do accurately without full access to our up to date accounts. Similarly, we'll most likely never fully know what occurred leading up to the PSR deadline and why, we can only hypothesise. Nothing wrong with that, unfortunately we've heard some of these theories multiple times, across multiple threads.

Hey, wait until he beats three Man City defenders and scores a goal in the top corner.

I'm sure most people have a general idea of what PSR and the club's accounts are with this in mind, I then find it interesting that people can keep going over the same theories day after day. As we are all aware, this outcome was inevitable. That is the crux of my argument. In any case, I will now discreetly withdraw from the conversation.