duo Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, The Prophet said: Shock ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Restricting ourselves in the summer by buying now for the benefit of a potential place or two in the league seems daft, especially when we've got several players returning from injury as it is. Long term all the way. I have absolutely no idea how FFP works, but remember reading @TheBrownBottle be adamant that any spending this window won't have any impact on the next due to the way the way it's calculated by season. If that's true we might as well spend whatever we can now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 18 minutes ago, Ginola14 said: think Phillips seems unlikely at this point as surely the club would have looked to agree terms prior to January if they were serious There's obviously a deal there to be done but we can't afford the permanent clause of £40m. If City would agree to a loan for the rest of the season it would happen I reckon, but they aren't interested in a loan, and can't really blame them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 20 minutes ago, TRon said: There's obviously a deal there to be done but we can't afford the permanent clause of £40m. If City would agree to a loan for the rest of the season it would happen I reckon, but they aren't interested in a loan, and can't really blame them. They would be interested in a loan with obligation. Not a straight loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 27 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: I have absolutely no idea how FFP works, but remember reading @TheBrownBottle be adamant that any spending this window won't have any impact on the next due to the way the way it's calculated by season. If that's true we might as well spend whatever we can now? It definitely impacts both the current three year period and the next couple years that it would remain part of the relevant accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 41 minutes ago, TRon said: There's obviously a deal there to be done but we can't afford the permanent clause of £40m. If City would agree to a loan for the rest of the season it would happen I reckon, but they aren't interested in a loan, and can't really blame them. £40m for a 28 year old who has barely kicked a ball in two and a half years is a piss take like, no wonder we've cooled on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Ginola14 said: think Phillips seems unlikely at this point as surely the club would have looked to agree terms prior to January if they were serious Probably worth remembering we only have 2 league games this month (city and villa), so I can't imagine we're going to be desperate to pay over the odds to get anyone in early, as much as it would be preferable to do so. I doubt we'll do much, but if we do, I reckon it'll be late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, SEMTEX said: Probably worth remembering we only have 2 league games this month (city and villa), so I can't imagine we're going to be desperate to pay over the odds to get anyone in early, as much as it would be preferable to do so. I doubt we'll do much, but if we do, I reckon it'll be late. Phillips wouldnt be eligible til 30 Jan so definitely wont be doing much there you would imagine, end of the window they may accect a straight loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 For the ffp experts, what would happen if we sold £200m of talent this year, didn't spend any of it for 3 years and it falls off the ffp records, then we decide to spend it all? Is ffp designed so you can't even save for a rainy day. If you do then you lose it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 minutes ago, Dokko said: For the ffp experts, what would happen if we sold £200m of talent this year, didn't spend any of it for 3 years and it falls off the ffp records, then we decide to spend it all? Is ffp designed so you can't even save for a rainy day. If you do then you lose it? Surely the £200 million would remain in the clubs accounts until they decided to spend it, whenever that may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dokko said: For the ffp experts, what would happen if we sold £200m of talent this year, didn't spend any of it for 3 years and it falls off the ffp records, then we decide to spend it all? Is ffp designed so you can't even save for a rainy day. If you do then you lose it? It's like the council. Any spare cash needs to be spunked by April 1st otherwise ya budgets cut to accommodate the slack. Use it or lose it ? Edited January 3 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Surely the £200 million would remain in the clubs accounts until they decided to spend it, whenever that may be. My understanding is that it would be lost. Whole thing is a farce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, ChrisMcQuillan said: My understanding is that it would be lost. Whole thing is a farce. FFP is about losses over a 3 year period, don’t ever remember it including profits………..but agreed it’s a farce and needs to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 What do people think about Smith-Rowe? I think he’d be a great signing for us and he’s not getting any game time at Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, Joey47 said: What do people think about Smith-Rowe? I think he’d be a great signing for us and he’s not getting any game time at Arsenal. He has an even worse injury record than Willock so not the profile I’d be looking for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: Not according to who scored https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/crysencio-summerville/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/474701 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, ChrisMcQuillan said: My understanding is that it would be lost. Whole thing is a farce. 4 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: FFP is about losses over a 3 year period, don’t ever remember it including profits………..but agreed it’s a farce and needs to go. Could you then start taking money out of your clubs accounts and cover the losses then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 If you sell a £200m player you'd find it hard to make a loss, surely? Unless you're handing out crazy contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, Dokko said: Could you then start taking money out of your clubs accounts and cover the losses then? I’m not sure……my accounting abilities are pretty basic, I’m more focused on the legality of FFP, someone with far more experience might be able to give you answer. But if you bring in £200 million in sales and don’t spend it why should it not be included in the clubs financial health after 3 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, Shearergol said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/crysencio-summerville/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/474701 Thanks. Seems to have played LW equally for Leeds as RW. Most of his time in Holland and youth setups has been on the right. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/crysencio-summerville/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/474701/saison//verein/0/liga/0/wettbewerb//trainer_id/0/pos/11 As right footer in a 4-3-3 with inverted forwards you would want him on the left, no? For RW I've been thinking of a left-footer for the last 18 months. Olise, Raphinha, Neto, Kudus, Palmer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Summerville clearly plays on the left for anyone who has followed Leeds this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 14 minutes ago, Joey47 said: What do people think about Smith-Rowe? I think he’d be a great signing for us and he’s not getting any game time at Arsenal. Arsenal fans seem to think he lacks the athleticism to play Arteta's system. Or at least that's why Arteta doesn't start him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I think we were pretty confident of Neto in summer, but I get the feeling lack of CL might prevent that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Summerville clearly plays on the left for anyone who has followed Leeds this season. I meant in his career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I think we were pretty confident of Neto in summer, but I get the feeling lack of CL might prevent that. We can't even afford to shop in netto nevermind neto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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