NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Fak]

2 hours ago, Superior Acuña said:

Since there's not much new, nufc.com's big archive of rumours going back to September 1999 is quite interesting https://www.nufc.com/rumours/rumours.html

 

 

 

May 2003. Northern Echo linking us with Cristiano Ronaldo. 

[Checko]

2 minutes ago, Fak said:

May 2003. Northern Echo linking us with Cristiano Ronaldo. 

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/7031331.sir-bobby-seeking-ronaldo/

 

And Carrick in the same article (and David Dunn tbf).

[Ben]

Basically needs two players, nee rush man

[Dr.Spaceman]

3 minutes ago, Checko said:

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/7031331.sir-bobby-seeking-ronaldo/

 

And Carrick in the same article (and David Dunn tbf).

 

Feel like we were linked with David Dunn loads of times around the same time we were always linked with Boa Morte.

[Keegans Export]

4 hours ago, UncleBingo said:

I agree, but it definitely becomes a problem if he's doing it over Howe's head.

 

4 hours ago, Alberto2005 said:

I know, but I get the feeling Howe doesn't want to sell anyone because he likes them.

 

Pope, Dubravka, Greek bloke, Ruddy, Gillespie 

Trippier, Tino, Krafth, Schar, Lascelles, Botman, Burn, Kelly, Hall, Targett 

Bruno, Joelinton, Tonali, Willock, Longstaff

Almiron, Murphy, Gordon, Barnes

Isak, Wilson

 

We've got a 26 man squad there, 25 if Hall doesn't have to be registered which I'm not sure about. We've also still got Lewis, Hayden and Fraser on the books. If we want to add two or three players we're going to have to shift players, at least one of them will be someone Howe would ideally like to keep and I'm sure he understands that as well as anyone.

[Matt1892]

The minimum for me is a CB and RW.

 

We have a number of long term injuries at CB at the moment and we also have Schar, Burn, Lascelles and Krafth in the final year of their contracts, so it makes sense to go big on a long term replacement in that position.

 

RW is different in that we have 2 players there on long term contracts. However, it has been the weak link position in our starting eleven for some time now so if we want to kick on then we need to be looking at adding quality there.

 

On top of that you have the likes of Wilson, Trippier and Longstaff who are all in the final year of their contact so could be moved on, if they are then I would expect them to be replaced.

[Sibierski]

11 hours ago, Gawalls said:

Cannot stress how much I disagree on this - we must not and cannot run Isak into the ground.

If Isak can’t manage a 38 game season, then something is wrong with him IMO.

 

Gordon can fill in there, and so can Joelinton in emergency, in the times Wilson is broken again. Like I’d rather sign another CM than end up with say a DCL or someone that’s not increasing our quality.

[Conjo]

RW is the most important position to improve imo, second is to get a more reliable option to Isak up front.

 

CB would be nice, but isn't a very high priority for me. Schar and Burn are reliable and rarely get injured and we've got Kelly now who can fill, and in emergency Alex Murphy. Botman & Lascelles is back towards the end of the first half of the season. I don't think its worth spending a lot of money on a CB if it means we can't get the targets we want for RW & ST just to have additional cover at CB for 3-4 months. I'd be fine if we waited with getting another CB in until next summer.

[jonny1403]

2 hours ago, Keegans Export said:

 

 

Pope, Dubravka, Greek bloke, Ruddy, Gillespie 

Trippier, Tino, Krafth, Schar, Lascelles, Botman, Burn, Kelly, Hall, Targett 

Bruno, Joelinton, Tonali, Willock, Longstaff

Almiron, Murphy, Gordon, Barnes

Isak, Wilson

 

We've got a 26 man squad there, 25 if Hall doesn't have to be registered which I'm not sure about. We've also still got Lewis, Hayden and Fraser on the books. If we want to add two or three players we're going to have to shift players, at least one of them will be someone Howe would ideally like to keep and I'm sure he understands that as well as anyone.

Ruddy isn’t going to be registered in the squad like. 

[Ben]

11 hours ago, Keegans Export said:

 

 

Pope, Dubravka, Greek bloke, Ruddy, Gillespie 

Trippier, Tino, Krafth, Schar, Lascelles, Botman, Burn, Kelly, Hall, Targett 

Bruno, Joelinton, Tonali, Willock, Longstaff

Almiron, Murphy, Gordon, Barnes

Isak, Wilson

 

We've got a 26 man squad there, 25 if Hall doesn't have to be registered which I'm not sure about. We've also still got Lewis, Hayden and Fraser on the books. If we want to add two or three players we're going to have to shift players, at least one of them will be someone Howe would ideally like to keep and I'm sure he understands that as well as anyone.

I reckon the Miley boys will replace Longstaff, Murphy has cemented his place as backup RW so Almiron can go and Mitchell must be trying to get rid of Wilson as part of his "transfer talks"

[gdm]

12 hours ago, Keegans Export said:

 

 

Pope, Dubravka, Greek bloke, Ruddy, Gillespie 

Trippier, Tino, Krafth, Schar, Lascelles, Botman, Burn, Kelly, Hall, Targett 

Bruno, Joelinton, Tonali, Willock, Longstaff

Almiron, Murphy, Gordon, Barnes

Isak, Wilson

 

We've got a 26 man squad there, 25 if Hall doesn't have to be registered which I'm not sure about. We've also still got Lewis, Hayden and Fraser on the books. If we want to add two or three players we're going to have to shift players, at least one of them will be someone Howe would ideally like to keep and I'm sure he understands that as well as anyone.

be amazed if Lascelles gets registered in the squad 

[Mazzy]

11 hours ago, Sibierski said:

If Isak can’t manage a 38 game season, then something is wrong with him IMO.

 

Gordon can fill in there, and so can Joelinton in emergency, in the times Wilson is broken again. Like I’d rather sign another CM than end up with say a DCL or someone that’s not increasing our quality.

 

It's not about him managing 38 games a season. It's about him being at 100% in every single game he plays in. Previous seasons he's had to play regardless because Wilson has been unavailable.

 

I'd much prefer to see Isak play 30 games at 100% rather than see him play 38 games where a handful of those he's struggling through a knock or has an illness. I get that players play with minor injuries all the time but they shouldn't HAVE to if the guy you've got to replace them is capable and importantly, fit and ready to play.

[Guest]

Just for a bit of context to see how far we've progressed in 3 years and why we've had to push PSR to the limits just to get where we are today.

 

Dubravka, Darlow, Woodman, Gillespie

Krafth, Manquillo

Lewis, Dummett

Clark, Schar

Lascelles, Fernandez

Longstaff, Hayden

Willock, Shelvey, Hendrick 

St-Maximin, Joelinton, Ritchie

Almiron, Murphy, Fraser

Wilson, Gayle

 

That was what our registered PL squad was on the day the takeover happened.

[PauloGeordio]

4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Just for a bit of context to see how far we've progressed in 3 years and why we've had to push PSR to the limits just to get where we are today.

 

Dubravka, Darlow, Woodman, Gillespie

Krafth, Manquillo

Lewis, Dummett

Clark, Schar

Lascelles, Fernandez

Longstaff, Hayden

Willock, Shelvey, Hendrick 

St-Maximin, Joelinton, Ritchie

Almiron, Murphy, Fraser

Wilson, Gayle

 

That was what our registered PL squad was on the day the takeover happened.

Coupled with board and back room staff changes. It’s huge growth and rebuild in such a short time. 

[Groundhog63]

1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Just for a bit of context to see how far we've progressed in 3 years and why we've had to push PSR to the limits just to get where we are today.

 

Dubravka, Darlow, Woodman, Gillespie

Krafth, Manquillo

Lewis, Dummett

Clark, Schar

Lascelles, Fernandez

Longstaff, Hayden

Willock, Shelvey, Hendrick 

St-Maximin, Joelinton, Ritchie

Almiron, Murphy, Fraser

Wilson, Gayle

 

That was what our registered PL squad was on the day the takeover happened.

 

Also need to factor in, and this isn't a dig at them, the sparcity of talented players coming through the youth set up. 

 

[Guest]

12 of those 25 are no longer here, then there's Hayden, Lewis & Fraser who've been out the last year. Of the 12 who've left, we'll be lucky if we've made £25-30m on the lot of them and most of that is ASM. We've had to write off the majority. Done wonders to get 4th & 7th and stay within PSR even if it was tight. 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2024 by Optimistic Nut

[Sibierski]

11 hours ago, Conjo said:

RW is the most important position to improve imo, second is to get a more reliable option to Isak up front.

 

CB would be nice, but isn't a very high priority for me. Schar and Burn are reliable and rarely get injured and we've got Kelly now who can fill, and in emergency Alex Murphy. Botman & Lascelles is back towards the end of the first half of the season. I don't think its worth spending a lot of money on a CB if it means we can't get the targets we want for RW & ST just to have additional cover at CB for 3-4 months. I'd be fine if we waited with getting another CB in until next summer.

Think it’s more fortunate that we’ve not had a Schar injury yet. To go into the season without signing an actual CB would be dumbest thing we could ever do.
 

Lascelles filled in last season, but let’s be honest, we can’t be having him starting RCB if we want to get pushing back upwards. 

[gdm]

2 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Think it’s more fortunate that we’ve not had a Schar injury yet. To go into the season without signing an actual CB would be dumbest thing we could ever do.
 

Lascelles filled in last season, but let’s be honest, we can’t be having him starting RCB if we want to get pushing back upwards. 

We’ve signed a centre back. Kelly is a centre back and we’ll sign another 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2024 by gdm

[ExiledGeordie]

1 minute ago, Sibierski said:

Think it’s more fortunate that we’ve not had a Schar injury yet. To go into the season without signing an actual CB would be dumbest thing we could ever do.
 

Lascelles filled in last season, but let’s be honest, we can’t be having him starting RCB if we want to get pushing back upwards. 

 
Lascelles won’t even be back until midway through the season irrespective of potential return to form and ability. 

[TRon]

Just watching the Loaded channel where they have a guy from Milan as their guest, and he's there to discuss Thiaw, and he's saying that he's more suited to a low block defence, but when Milan pushed high then he sometimes struggled with strikers who got him in behind him. That sort of ties in with the poster who said he lacked pace. Obviously he mentioned his attributes as well like his strength and defensive nous, but seeing as we also push forward in numbers, I would have thought recovery pace should be high on our list. We certainly shouldn't be paying over the odds if Milan are looking to replace him, maybe £25m would be reasonable.

[ExiledGeordie]

Just now, TRon said:

Just watching the Loaded channel where they have a guy from Milan as their guest, and he's there to discuss Thiaw, and he's saying that he's more suited to a low block defence, but when Milan pushed high then he sometimes struggled with strikers who got him in behind him. That sort of ties in with the poster who said he lacked pace. Obviously he mentioned his attributes as well like his strength and defensive nous, but seeing as we also push forward in numbers, I would have thought recovery pace should be high on our list. We certainly shouldn't be paying over the odds if Milan are looking to replace him, maybe £25m would be reasonable.

Yes I thought recovery pace would’ve been one of the main things we’d be looking at. I don’t know much about Thiaw to be fair though.

[TRon]

Just now, ExiledGeordie said:

Yes I thought recovery pace would’ve been one of the main things we’d be looking at. I don’t know much about Thiaw to be fair though.

 

The Milan guy is emphasising he's only 22 so lots of room for improvement, but would be a bit of a comedown from signing Tosin on a free then spending big money on Thiaw who has potential flaws in his game. Guess we just have to go with our scouts who must have watched him pretty extensively.

[M1tche]

3 minutes ago, TRon said:

Just watching the Loaded channel where they have a guy from Milan as their guest, and he's there to discuss Thiaw, and he's saying that he's more suited to a low block defence, but when Milan pushed high then he sometimes struggled with strikers who got him in behind him. That sort of ties in with the poster who said he lacked pace. Obviously he mentioned his attributes as well like his strength and defensive nous, but seeing as we also push forward in numbers, I would have thought recovery pace should be high on our list. We certainly shouldn't be paying over the odds if Milan are looking to replace him, maybe £25m would be reasonable.

He's quicker than Schar which is a good thing, especially if he is going to play on the right side. If we lined up with Tino, Thiaw, Kelly, Hall, you've got decent pace across the back line there tbf.  Burn and more importantly Botman bring that pace down abit, but I still think it would take a great pass and Elite pace to bypass everyone. A good sweeper keeper makes that link up even harder. 

[Coffee_Johnny]

16 minutes ago, M1tche said:

He's quicker than Schar which is a good thing, especially if he is going to play on the right side. If we lined up with Tino, Thiaw, Kelly, Hall, you've got decent pace across the back line there tbf.  Burn and more importantly Botman bring that pace down abit, but I still think it would take a great pass and Elite pace to bypass everyone. A good sweeper keeper makes that link up even harder. 

Added pace is a bonus, particularly against defence splitting passes to quick forwards. Players who can read a game Schar and Trippier spring to mind aren’t disadvantaged facing most attacking scenarios. 

[TRon]

21 minutes ago, M1tche said:

He's quicker than Schar which is a good thing, especially if he is going to play on the right side. If we lined up with Tino, Thiaw, Kelly, Hall, you've got decent pace across the back line there tbf.  Burn and more importantly Botman bring that pace down abit, but I still think it would take a great pass and Elite pace to bypass everyone. A good sweeper keeper makes that link up even harder. 

 

I'd assume even if we push forward we'd have one defender sitting deeper anyway to cover for any breaks by the opposition, as you say we seem to have managed with Schar and Botman pretty well when they played together. Plus this Alessandro guy seems to think Thiaw reads the game pretty well and that is also similar to Schar.