Shearergol Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rich said: Even I’m getting rattled at this stage and I love a good happy clap. Finally you've entered the room. Edited August 29 by Shearergol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, r0cafella said: Just to make you feel better as well, the England job is available and Howe clearly told the world if it isn’t working for him he’s out. Wont blame him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Horrible end to a horrible window. Ruddy Forests 3rd choice GK Hall after loan Osula Kelly on a free Losing both Anderson and Minteh to hit a net profit when it was widely reported we PRIORITISED a CB and a RW this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: There is absolutely no way this is on Howe btw, I can’t imagine a scenario where he is saying sign Guehi or don’t bother. What more do you need our journalists to say? Hope has all but said exactly what you are denying here. To ask the question a different way: Do you honestly think Paul Mitchell, whose entire MO is bringing in scores of youth talent, simply had zero ideas this summer? The guy who has stocked the reserves of club after club that he has worked at? We know, at this point, that he had near 70m to toy around with based on the Guehi bids. We also know - and again, this will likely ruffle feathers - that our last Director left the club in a huff because, by all accounts, he didn't have the authority he wanted. What more needs to be said? Mitchell and PIF need to pull the emergency lever and bring in talent today, or this will have been a massive failure of a window. Losing Anderson and Minteh for lloyd kelly simply isn't going to cut the mustard. If you think that the guy who is literally among the very best in the world at bringing in talent ran out of ideas with 70m burning a hole in his pocket, then I don't really think there's a productive discussion to be had here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 8 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Wont judge Howe at all this season if we dont bring in players. I had high hopes for Mitchell, but if this is it its quite bad really. This season might be more enjoyable than last if enough people commit to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 If the window ends as is, I reckon we can share the blame between everyone at the club for the poor window. This includes Eddie, Darren and Paul. I think thats fair. Theres no need to for us to argue who is a fault, its all of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Was Mitchell DOF that summer where Spurs signed no one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Still confused why Eales gets roped in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, The Prophet said: Still confused why Eales gets roped in. Because he's overseeing all of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 As the ceo the buck stops with eales, that’s what he’s paid the big bucks for. Obviously he’s not the person identifying talent and such but he’s the personal who’s ultimately responsible for performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 4 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: This season might be more enjoyable than last if enough people commit to this. Not sure about that when we watch Krafth play 20+ games because of an injury. Just feel really flat about the whole season now. Long gone are the talk of a transformative summer window. But lets see how the last day of the window goes before a total meltdown.. Edited August 29 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Because he's overseeing all of it. Indirectly aye. It's his call to bring Mitchell in, but he's not directly accountable for planning and execution of the transfer window. If Mitchell ends up being a bad hire or the wrong fit, then fair enough. Edited August 29 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Hard to look at this window as anything but a failure as it stands. Threatens to be 12 months of not a single first team signing. Imagine being told that after FT at Brentford back in May. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Let's just see what January brings eh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 9 minutes ago, Upthemags said: What more do you need our journalists to say? Hope has all but said exactly what you are denying here. To ask the question a different way: Do you honestly think Paul Mitchell, whose entire MO is bringing in scores of youth talent, simply had zero ideas this summer? The guy who has stocked the reserves of club after club that he has worked at? We know, at this point, that he had near 70m to toy around with based on the Guehi bids. We also know - and again, this will likely ruffle feathers - that our last Director left the club in a huff because, by all accounts, he didn't have the authority he wanted. What more needs to be said? Mitchell and PIF need to pull the emergency lever and bring in talent today, or this will have been a massive failure of a window. Losing Anderson and Minteh for lloyd kelly simply isn't going to cut the mustard. If you think that the guy who is literally among the very best in the world at bringing in talent ran out of ideas with 70m burning a hole in his pocket, then I don't really think there's a productive discussion to be had here. Inclined to agree. I think Guehi is a Howe target; Mitchell has simply done his best to strike a deal. I have no doubt that Mitchell has other CB profiles up his sleeve but whether they're targets that Howe wants to pursue is another question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: Hard to look at this window as anything but a failure as it stands. Threatens to be 12 months of not a single first team signing. Imagine being told that after FT at Brentford back in May. Funny thing is, throughout last season we were told by the client journalist that this would be a very busy summer with a lot of movement expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, r0cafella said: Funny thing is, throughout last season we were told by the client journalist that this would be a very busy summer with a lot of movement expected. Transformative it was described as, in fairness it may well prove to be. Just for all the wrong reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 minute ago, nufc123 said: Not sure about that when we watch Krafth play 20+ games because of an injury. Just feel really flat about the whole season now. Long gone are the talk of a transformative summer window. Wasn't singling you out. But for me the least fun part of last season, aside from Nunez and the "handball" in Paris, was the weekly examination of Eddie's ability to do the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, r0cafella said: Funny thing is, throughout last season we were told by the client journalist that this would be a very busy summer with a lot of F5 movement expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Indirectly aye. It's his call to bring Mitchell in, but he's bot directly accountable for planning and execution of the transfer window. If Mitchell ends up being a bad hire or the wrong fit, then fair enough. It's directly, he's the CEO. I'm not saying he needs to be micromanaging, but he's ultimately responsible for how the entire club operates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I think the main difference between the anger of the Ashley transfer windows was of a clear lack of ambition. We had some money but had no interest in spending it - until we absolutely had to. When we absolutely needed a player in then we got him but generally speaking the whole 'we tried' rung true. Now it's not the ambition that's in question, the money invested has been incredible and I'm sure that more would have been spent but for the dodgy PSR bollocks. We clearly want to spend but the Guehi deal raises the question of capability. The deals we've done this summer have been mediocre at best. We've chased Guehi for a month, we've clearly got a load of cash there to be spent and we're heading into deadline day with pocket full of cash and a lack of quality new players and the same gaps still very present. It'll now be a case of can they rather than do they get the deals done tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 30 minutes ago, jigen said: With 70m you can do great deals. But Howe wants PL players. We heard you the first 10 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Transformative it was described as, in fairness it may well prove to be. Just for all the wrong reasons. But the fact they were saying that while not having any idea we needed to raise over £40m in June just to avoid a points deduction tells you how little they know about our budget and spending ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
levelsevenlee Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 3 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said: Let's just see what January brings eh Botman - "like a new signing" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 And for anyone who thinks I'm pulling shit out of my ass, this is a problem that's hounded the club in the recent past. Ashworth was a total dork, and a little shit for how he betrayed us, but let's not forget he felt he was being isolated by Eddie and his influence: https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/dan-ashworths-email-blunder-could-cost-manchester-united-millions-nj8brswzq Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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