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Elliottman

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Can’t help but feel the reaction to this window is being massively blown out of proportion (on here anyway). Really playing up stereotype fan base. 
 

Hope to God it’s not mirrored by the fans in the stadium tomorrow. 

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Kid Icarus

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51 minutes ago, STM said:

 

I can show you reports from the same journalists who 6 months ago had no clue about our PSR danger (points deductions), told us we'd be spending 80m+ (Hope) and told us we are after (likely to sign) various players, which didn't arrive.

 

I actually agree. It appears that we did wrongly put our eggs in one basket re Guehi and we failed and we should be rightly criticised. I'm not just prepared to jump on board with a bunch of journalist who have been wrong, then wrong, then wrong a couple more times.

 

You made a point about Howe being a liar in press conferences (which he undoubtedly does) but yesterday's press conference looked genuine to me. He played no politics with it like he did in germany, basically admitted that it was a failure (he could have played a Pardew and thrown a load of bullshit) and seemed genuinely in good spirits about the season.

 

Let's just hope that whatever mistakes that were made, they've learned from them going into the next window. There's an arguement to be made that having our "powder dry" for January could give us momentum after new year but I won't be foolish enough to try and create optimism around that given what's just happened. :lol:

 

A poor window doesn't have to be a poor season, as disappointing as it may be.:thup:

 

 

If the club itself was caught on the hop with our PSR situation, I'm not sure why we might have expected journalists and their sources to know any better either.

 

In terms of not getting on board with the journalists, I get that definitely, I just think it should at least be taken on board when they're all saying the same things about the goings-on inside the club.

 

Personally I thought Howe's press conference said more through what he chose to say and what he didn't say, than what he did. He's very good at putting across a message while towing the party line and having plausible deniability is wor Eddie.

 

January could definitely be good like! If we're in contention around then, you'd hope they all want to right their wrongs and push on. My main concern is that there's now a power struggle at the club and if it goes tits up PIF will press the wrong ejector seat button. 

 

 

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Cort

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2 hours ago, Newcastle Fan said:

*Still free agents*:
* Adrien Rabiot
* Joel Matip
* Memphis Depay
* Anthony Martial
* Wissam Ben Yedir
* Willian
* Mario Hermoso
* Andre Gomes
* Mats Hummels
* Iker Munain
* Davy Klassen
* Dennis Praet
* Sergio Ramos
* Chopou Moting
* Serge Aurier
* Rafinha 
 

 

Hummels would be immense, but he's not joined a club because he wants to be somewhere with easy access to Munich to be close to his son.

 

Matip would be a decent squad player, and honestly I wouldn't be opposed to Martial either who can help us out in two positions.

 

 

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Kid Icarus

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7 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Sorry like, but if I had an issue with my boss at work who was a part owner, not a chance I’d be waging a war against them, because ultimately I would reasonably expect me to be out of a job.

Not really a strong argument in the face of the heap of potential counter evidence though is it?

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Coffee_Johnny

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1 hour ago, christ said:

I too have got a A-level in Media Studies.

 

I am no fan of British journalism - pop on over to the UK politics thread and find virtually any post I’ve made - but I can’t find anything wrong with Hope’s article.

 

We need to stop being so precious about stuff like this.

Not sure being precious captures most of the disgruntlement I have read about Hope’s recent piece and general slant on things. Creating drama, colouring ‘the news’ in ominous tones, just doesn’t sit well with me/many people. For every person getting fucked off with it, there are probably three getting unnecessarily worried or angry about the ‘soap opera stylee’ way our club business is being portrayed. Be a better man, Craig. You’ll feel better for it. 

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STM

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A couple of separate points I wanted to make too..

 

1. On Craig Hope, his writing is sensationalist but I always watch his YouTube videos and he comes across calm and measured and fair. Perhaps that's just me.

 

2. My reading of the Amanda situation is this:

 

Amanda and Mehrdad didn't know how to run a football club properly. They were wonderful and inspiring etc but the reality is that they left a situation with PSR which would get any other person in a job sacked.

 

Whether it was Eales or not, ultimately the Chairman is the one who will have moved AS and MG on... and of course they could have stayed. I suspect their exit was always going to happen and this merely made it happen quicker.

 

Going into the summer we had no DoF, a manager who had likely been given more power than he should have (and I adore Eddie) and we're coming off the back of a close call with regards to PSR. With this in mind, is it any surprise that we ended up being ultra cautious?

 

Perhaps there has been a power struggle. Hopefully it's been sorted otherwise we know where it ends and hopefully we go into January with a clear vision and plan. 

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Armchair Pundit

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4 hours ago, Newcastle Fan said:

*Still free agents*:
* Adrien Rabiot
* Joel Matip
* Memphis Depay
* Anthony Martial
* Wissam Ben Yedir
* Willian
* Mario Hermoso
* Andre Gomes
* Mats Hummels
* Iker Munain
* Davy Klassen
* Dennis Praet
* Sergio Ramos
* Chopou Moting
* Serge Aurier
* Rafinha 
 

 

A few more to add to that, according to Transfermarkt:

 

Yusuf Yazıcı

Anton Miranchuk

Aaron Boupendza

Marlon

Dele Alli

 

Only heard of Marlon and Dele Ali out of those though, and nobody's bothering with Ali.

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Zero

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53 minutes ago, STM said:

A couple of separate points I wanted to make too..

 

1. On Craig Hope, his writing is sensationalist but I always watch his YouTube videos and he comes across calm and measured and fair. Perhaps that's just me.

 

2. My reading of the Amanda situation is this:

 

Amanda and Mehrdad didn't know how to run a football club properly. They were wonderful and inspiring etc but the reality is that they left a situation with PSR which would get any other person in a job sacked.

 

Whether it was Eales or not, ultimately the Chairman is the one who will have moved AS and MG on... and of course they could have stayed. I suspect their exit was always going to happen and this merely made it happen quicker.

 

Going into the summer we had no DoF, a manager who had likely been given more power than he should have (and I adore Eddie) and we're coming off the back of a close call with regards to PSR. With this in mind, is it any surprise that we ended up being ultra cautious?

 

Perhaps there has been a power struggle. Hopefully it's been sorted otherwise we know where it ends and hopefully we go into January with a clear vision and plan. 

Sometimes I do wonder whether you owe an apology to those that voiced our concerns re club management since January.

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12 minutes ago, Zero said:

Sometimes I do wonder whether you owe an apology to those that voiced our concerns re club management since January.

 

None of this is what you have been saying though. :lol:

 

That's what your brain thinks you've been saying but you can't articulate.

 

What youve been saying is "brexit eddie" and "lucky if we stay up this year" and loads of other bullshit.

 

What I've said is measured. Try it.

 

 

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TRon

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8 minutes ago, duo said:

I'd take memphis depay as a punt

 

He's looked underwhelming every time I've watched him, never understood the hype around him. He doesn't play RW either as far as I'm aware.

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andycap

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24 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

NO!!!

 

The man to get is Yusuf Yazici.

You wanna tell eddie to go for the lad then 😂. 

Because he'll more than likely not bother touching the free market. 

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TRon

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2 minutes ago, andycap said:

I thought he did play right wing 

His wages maybe a struggle mind but still a good player. 

 

Seems weird that we are trying to find players on a budget but can't afford Chalobah on loan or Depay on a free then, since both would fit our transfer target areas as RCB and RW specialists. But I guess there is probably more to it than that.

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Zero

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25 minutes ago, STM said:

 

None of this is what you have been saying though. :lol:

 

That's what your brain thinks you've been saying but you can't articulate.

 

What youve been saying is "brexit eddie" and "lucky if we stay up this year" and loads of other bullshit.

 

What I've said is measured. Try it.

 

 

 

Nah, you are far from “measured”. Probably the farthest in this forum. 

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