NUFC Transfer Rumours

[aussiemag]

I would sell Barnes. Hes at peak age and barely getting a game. His value will only diminish from here. Take the 30-40 mill we will get for him now. The reinvest that into a starting 11 right winger and a talented young left winger. 

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, WilliamPS said:

 

 

I think people need to set reasonable expectations for January. It’s a better time to buy potential (as those players are less likely to be integral parts of competitive teams). There are exceptions, but I’m not sure if a RW of sufficient quality will be available 

January for me is all about opportunist signings. Most of the successful ones, are usually players a club has lined up to sign eventually, and cards just happen to align to make that move happen in January.

 

Giving we have a new structure in place, be surprised if we have players lined up this early, unless it’s someone that Mitchell had data on from previous roles and does back it.

 

A loan with option to buy feels a risk free roll of dice for RW if everyone is content on waiting till end of season to make some serious moves.

 

Step forward someone who could be available on loan….

 

Arda Guler  

[southernmag]

I've been burned too much by our recent transfer incompetence to be massively confident in what we'll do in the next couple of windows. But, you never know.

[Dr.Spaceman]

We can't sell Barnes without replacing him. We're fucked if we do and Gordon isn't fit to play. I know we're looking to do the Willock / Joelinton thing on the left but christ, you've got a short memory if you think that's going to be able to happen every week.

[aussiemag]

23 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

We can't sell Barnes without replacing him. We're fucked if we do and Gordon isn't fit to play. I know we're looking to do the Willock / Joelinton thing on the left but christ, you've got a short memory if you think that's going to be able to happen every week.

I’d replace him with someone 5 years younger and fits the Gordon mould of player. 

[Sibierski]

1 hour ago, aussiemag said:

I would sell Barnes. Hes at peak age and barely getting a game. His value will only diminish from here. Take the 30-40 mill we will get for him now. The reinvest that into a starting 11 right winger and a talented young left winger. 

Agree, but Christ I’ll be more pissed in the short term if we sell Barnes after having lost Anderson due to the panic stations in the summer.

[joeyt]

Barnes is such a weird one. He's genuinely been a game changer when he's came off the bench for us and scored some hugely important goals

 

Yet when he does play poorly in a game he's straight out the team. And his lack of versatility is really unlike most of our signings

 

He'll be a high earner too and i imagine he's really frustrated by it all.

[lovejoy]

9 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Barnes is such a weird one. He's genuinely been a game changer when he's came off the bench for us and scored some hugely important goals

 

Yet when he does play poorly in a game he's straight out the team. And his lack of versatility is really unlike most of our signings

 

He'll be a high earner too and i imagine he's really frustrated by it all.

 

Unless the original plan was to play Gordon on the right, the Barnes signing is a bizarre one. It makes little to no sense tbh. I can imagine everyone is frustrated by it.

[Smal]

Barnes should still be rotated with Joelinton. Would be insanely dumb to sell him given how short we are on quality forwards. 

 

It's good to be able to have options and keep sides guessing how you're going to play. 

 

 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Smal

[joeyt]

11 minutes ago, Smal said:

Barnes should still be rotated with Joelinton. Would be insanely dumb to sell him given how short we are on quality forwards. 

 

It's good to be able to have options and keep sides guessing how you're going to play. 

 

 

 

 

Got to hope Barnes is happy to be a rotation option and not kick up a fuss about it

[Toon No9]

9 minutes ago, Smal said:

Barnes should still be rotated with Joelinton. Would be insanely dumb to sell him given how short we are on quality forwards. 

 

It's good to be able to have options and keep sides guessing how you're going to play. 

 

 

 

I would say rotate Barnes with Willock. Willock to play 60 mins and Barnes for the last 30 mins. 

Rest Willock when needed and let Barnes play to lower the risk of Willock getting injured.

 

Willock often just last for 60 mins in a game and Barnes is always at his best when he comes on as a sub.

[Shearergol]

Barnes loves it here FWIW

[PauloGeordio]

13 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

Barnes loves it here FWIW

Can’t imagine him complaining about the super sub role either. He comes across as a professional lad.

 

 

Edited November 4, 2024 by PauloGeordio

[Smal]

18 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

Got to hope Barnes is happy to be a rotation option and not kick up a fuss about it

 

doesn't seem like the type to me but could be wrong. I kind of don't think he's been given a fair shot at it either yet. Seems to play well one game, bad the next, then gets taken out of the team. 

[Sibierski]

Barnes must harbour England aspirations, especially since the household names of Grealish/Rashford are not sure things on LW, and he must back himself over Gordon/Eze.

 

So being rotational option and likely not playing the big games, won’t help towards that. If he’s resigned to not playing for England again, then yea, he’s probably happy as the rotational option for a club that should be competing top end and in Europe next couple of seasons.

 

Think he can play for Scotland too, so if he has tournament ambitions only, that may be the route he takes. 

[Sibierski]

Also for Barnes, I do feel Howe likes the LW to be able to come inside and take ball for possession. Willock/Joe are superb at it due to being naturals centrally and Gordon is very good at ball retention.

 

Barnes, you don’t see as coming inside to take ball in CM positions, it’s always going to be high and wide, where if you’ve got the RW doing same, it creates gap? 

[TRon]

3 hours ago, WilliamPS said:

Barnes is a great asset for the team, but yes increasingly difficult to justify having 3 options at LW and none at RW. It’s a bit of a depressing sign of how FFP constricts everything if he goes, as Chelsea have about 12 RWs and NUFC can’t afford to have a single spot on the team with genuine top level competition 

 

Howe seems to have gone totally off Miggy so he’s a goner.

 

I think people need to set reasonable expectations for January. It’s a better time to buy potential (as those players are less likely to be integral parts of competitive teams). There are exceptions, but I’m not sure if a RW of sufficient quality will be available 

 

He'll be a depreciating asset, that should be pointed out. He's 26 so we'd have to sell him in the next year or so to get our money back. That's the hard-nosed view on it. Of course if you aren't bothered about resale value, then 26 is hardly old, he'd still be good for the rest of his contract. But until we start blowing off PSR, it has to be taken into consideration.

[80]

1 hour ago, Shearergol said:

Barnes loves it here FWIW

If that's really the case then that's great to hear and quite a relief. He doesn't seem unprofessional in the slightest, but that doesn't mean a player can't feel dejected.

 

It still means there are a couple of problems to solve, as @TRon indicates above, but if he's happy enough it'll take a big issue off the table.

[nufc123]

3 hours ago, Conjo said:

One belter of a cross doesn't eliminate our need for a new RW. 

Agree. Are we going to have this discussion again 

[TRon]

3 minutes ago, 80 said:

If that's really the case then that's great to hear and quite a relief. He doesn't seem unprofessional in the slightest, but that doesn't mean a player can't feel dejected.

 

It still means there are a couple of problems to solve, as @TRon indicates above, but if he's happy enough it'll take a big issue off the table.

 

Barnes makes our squad stronger. If it wasn't for PSR we wouldn't even need to think about resale value. Chelsea can look at putting out three teams the equivalent of ours, yet when we want to rotate quality players we are left having to calculate how much money we are going to lose year on year if we don't sell in time. It's disgraceful, but that is the way the PSR rules have been designed.

[80]

41 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Barnes makes our squad stronger. If it wasn't for PSR we wouldn't even need to think about resale value. Chelsea can look at putting out three teams the equivalent of ours, yet when we want to rotate quality players we are left having to calculate how much money we are going to lose year on year if we don't sell in time. It's disgraceful, but that is the way the PSR rules have been designed.

Yep, it's a farce.

[Dr Venkman]

7 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Interesting to see what people think of the RW issue now that we want Joe and Joe on the left. 
 

Guess different for different games?

 

 

 

We can’t rely on Joelinton left forward for many games. Hasn’t got the creativity.

[SUPERTOON]

7 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Interesting to see what people think of the RW issue now that we want Joe and Joe on the left. 
 

Guess different for different games?

 

 

 

RW is still the priority for me. One game doesn’t change that.

[rebelrouser]

6 hours ago, KaKa said:

Think we could potentially look at a talented youngster that won't cost a huge fee, who is good enough to play in the first team when needed, but still has room for growth and won't mind being a rotational option.

William Gomes.

[nufc123]

17 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

RW is still the priority for me. One game doesn’t change that.

Its the same story everytime someone has a good game. If Murphy does something good we are in no need. Its not long a go Barnes left and Gordon right was the answer. Not long before that it was Barnes right and Gordon left that was the answer. We need a bloody RW  Christ. This never ending discussion we need/we need not a RW is quite something..