GEFAFWISP Posted November 14, 2024 Share Posted November 14, 2024 2 hours ago, RodneyCisse said: Doubt it’s realistic but what would Delap cost? Isak swap deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted November 14, 2024 Share Posted November 14, 2024 Immediately thought Rory Delap and was very confused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 15, 2024 Share Posted November 15, 2024 9 hours ago, RodneyCisse said: Doubt it’s realistic but what would Delap cost? Think Man City have a £45m buy back, so around that mark at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 15, 2024 Share Posted November 15, 2024 5 hours ago, Sibierski said: Think Man City have a £45m buy back, so around that mark at least. Didn't realise he's ex-Citeh. Some turnover of players. The new Chelsea, if you will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted November 15, 2024 Share Posted November 15, 2024 14 hours ago, SiLvOR said: Immediately thought Rory Delap and was very confused We need someone with a long throw, reckon it would be lethal against the likes of spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 15, 2024 Share Posted November 15, 2024 Just now, RodneyCisse said: We need someone with a long throw, reckon it would be lethal against the likes of spurs. Would be class. A throw in from our half into their empty half. Race on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 15, 2024 Share Posted November 15, 2024 15 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: We need someone with a long throw, reckon it would be lethal against the likes of spurs. Saying "Boo" in a loud voice is lethal against Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 I saw Craig no hope peddling need to sell to buy in Jan so can't see us dropping close to 50m on a single player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: I saw Craig no hope peddling need to sell to buy in Jan so can't see us dropping close to 50m on a single player. We had to in the summer as well and we bid similar for Guehi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We had to in the summer as well and we bid similar for Guehi. Not gonna pretend I get the finances but we may have hoped to sell in the summer to spend more now would only miggy and trips attract a fee from the ones we 1. We are OK letting go and 2. Would get someone to bid for them? While I hate how negative Hope is he was at the meeting with Mitchell and the press behind closed doors and from the same video he believes based on that talk the days of dropping 50/60m+ may be over. I guess it will come down to the weaknesses assessed in the squad and what deals are available. Least the wait to find out is almost over hope to see rumours start to ramp up when we get into December hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 We pursued Guehi until the end of the window so presumably we had that money available to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 6 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: We pursued Guehi until the end of the window so presumably we had that money available to spend. We would have had to sell further down the line to balance the books though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: He's awesome on Football Manager which is good enough for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 Obscene that we can go 12 months investing next to nowt and still be up against it PSR-wise. It's not like we went mental with the spending after the takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 5 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Obscene that we can go 12 months investing next to nowt and still be up against it PSR-wise. It's not like we went mental with the spending after the takeover. All thanks to Mike Ashley's horrendous mismanagement of the commercial side of things. We should have been keeping a much closer eye on things year on year regarding PSR headroom, and been very careful about the decisions we made regarding incomings. Seems we weren't quite on top of things to the extent we needed to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 11 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Obscene that we can go 12 months investing next to nowt and still be up against it PSR-wise. It's not like we went mental with the spending after the takeover. Spent £40m on the Greek keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 10 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Obscene that we can go 12 months investing next to nowt and still be up against it PSR-wise. It's not like we went mental with the spending after the takeover. We have near enough effectively sold nothing though till this summer. Need to at least churn out a few sales each summer. 22/23, 21/22, 20/21 like £10m max made on transfer outgoings Then 23/24, helped out by flipping Wood back out and ASM to Ah Ahli. Still in same situation now where we have fuck all to move on for any cash, unless we move on someone who’s on fringes and has value (Barnes) or a main starter. Need revenues to grow and to unearth some more Minteh to able to maintain what we did 21/22 to 23/24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 For all of Ashley tightness, it’s still amazing how shit he ran a steady prem club that could’ve easily sweeped up the youngster market and sold every summer for profits. Just a depressingly incompetent owner, as that should’ve been an easy thing for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 18 minutes ago, Sibierski said: For all of Ashley tightness, it’s still amazing how shit he ran a steady prem club that could’ve easily sweeped up the youngster market and sold every summer for profits. Just a depressingly incompetent owner, as that should’ve been an easy thing for him. He didn’t even need to do anything, just hire a couple of people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 It's a wonder the bloke is as successful as he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 50 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Obscene that we can go 12 months investing next to nowt and still be up against it PSR-wise. It's not like we went mental with the spending after the takeover. Again not smart enough to argue with this but spending 400 million+ and bring in less than 50m when losses need to be below 105 I can see why things continue to be tight as the bigger purchases still cost us money year on year from an accountancy point of view. The lack of player trading or having any sort of saleable assets really continue to hurt us and it's only getting worse due to the age of some of the players getting 1 year extensions will eventually go for free. These players will need to be replaced and if it doesn't come from our academy then it's all outlay with nothing coming back the other way. Definitely of the view this is unfair when Chelsea get to spend 1B and don't seem to be slowing down yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 37 minutes ago, nufcjmc said: Again not smart enough to argue with this but spending 400 million+ and bring in less than 50m when losses need to be below 105 I can see why things continue to be tight as the bigger purchases still cost us money year on year from an accountancy point of view. The lack of player trading or having any sort of saleable assets really continue to hurt us and it's only getting worse due to the age of some of the players getting 1 year extensions will eventually go for free. These players will need to be replaced and if it doesn't come from our academy then it's all outlay with nothing coming back the other way. Definitely of the view this is unfair when Chelsea get to spend 1B and don't seem to be slowing down yet. Probably holding onto players a bit too long to the point where they arnt worth selling so might aswell keep them around and give them a +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 1 minute ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Probably holding onto players a bit too long to the point where they arnt worth selling so might aswell keep them around and give them a +1 Agreed about the sentiment the ship has sailed for alot of them i.e. schar or BDB don't hold alot of value due to age and contract length but are good squad players and still can contribute. Still doesn't mean your not kicking the can down the road and once they tip into the realm of cheerleader status like Dummett got and just take up a squad place you then spend money on replacements. Not saying that either of those players are coming to that stage yet but it's will be on the horizon. Will hamper our progress somewhat as we look to replace these sort of players who may at that stage are bit part players which reduces the budget for the ready made first 11 additions. I guess you have to trust the club are well aware of this approach and have a plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted November 18, 2024 Share Posted November 18, 2024 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: He didn’t even need to do anything, just hire a couple of people. Aye total false economy. If he’d sorted out some infrastructure he could have spent even less net than he allowed the club to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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