MagCA Posted Sunday at 09:27 Share Posted Sunday at 09:27 (edited) Ahh sorry lads only going off what Swiss Ramble was saying, my bad. Edited Sunday at 09:39 by MagCA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted Sunday at 09:44 Share Posted Sunday at 09:44 Yeah, that 80m loss will be the total lost including all current ongoing expenses including wages and the amortisation of previous purchases. I think we rack up around that much of losses without spending a penny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted Sunday at 09:45 Share Posted Sunday at 09:45 17 minutes ago, MagCA said: Ahh sorry lads only going off what Swiss Ramble was saying, my bad. God, this is such a fucking con situation. The big 6 are all laughing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted Sunday at 09:49 Share Posted Sunday at 09:49 At some point this nonsense must drive down wages and fees if foreign clubs /others can't rely on Premier league cash if price too high. I would love us to just find a different way with bringing talent through and getting them early and let the big clubs crack on with spunking 50 million up the wall for utter shite players. Maybe even spend a decent amount on top talents occasionally to really take us to next level but building a talent pipeline would be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted Sunday at 09:51 Share Posted Sunday at 09:51 It's a shame we can't use all our money to just accelerate it all but then I think would feel a bit souless if just mop up all top players, Man City and Chelsea just plastic clubs at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Sunday at 10:02 Share Posted Sunday at 10:02 5 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: It's a shame we can't use all our money to just accelerate it all but then I think would feel a bit souless if just mop up all top players, Man City and Chelsea just plastic clubs at this point. Yes it’s nicely to feel like we’re building a side gradually and it’s changing organically. I never expected us to be able to do a City/Chelsea but these current rules are absurd the way they’ve hamstrung us. Looking at our squad the positive and exciting slant is we’re a few key signings from going to the next level again next season. A R CB with pace, a RW who can score goals and win games, a back up striker (the RW may cover this role too) and possibly another attacking midfielder who can open up defences. I just hope we get champions league again and are able to keep the big guns whatever happens because it feels like we’re back on track and the players must feel it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted Sunday at 10:05 Share Posted Sunday at 10:05 13 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: It's a shame we can't use all our money to just accelerate it all but then I think would feel a bit souless if just mop up all top players, Man City and Chelsea just plastic clubs at this point. Im happy to currently “naturally” grow, a few seasons of regular European football and if we can grab a cup within the next 5 years I’m happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Sunday at 10:08 Share Posted Sunday at 10:08 17 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: It's a shame we can't use all our money to just accelerate it all but then I think would feel a bit souless if just mop up all top players, Man City and Chelsea just plastic clubs at this point. Yeah, it’s much better naturally building a side but no real signing in 3 windows is tedious and boring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Sunday at 10:10 Share Posted Sunday at 10:10 1 minute ago, gdm said: Yeah, it’s much better naturally building a side but no real signing in 3 windows is tedious and boring. Agreed 3 windows is bordering on Ashley level negligence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted Sunday at 10:10 Share Posted Sunday at 10:10 I don’t care too much as long as the club are trying their best to be as successful as they can. That’s all I ever wanted after 14 years of Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Sunday at 10:14 Share Posted Sunday at 10:14 Starting to sound awfully brattish in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Sunday at 10:21 Share Posted Sunday at 10:21 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Starting to sound awfully brattish in here. My comment was more about psr than at the club. I’ve no doubt they are doing their best. Absolutely can’t complain one bit about the recruitment so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Sunday at 10:24 Share Posted Sunday at 10:24 I’d just fund someone local, give them a load of money, call them a local businessman, then get them to sponsor the club. The Saudi ambassador to the U.K. is married to a Geordie, get one of her family members to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted Sunday at 10:40 Share Posted Sunday at 10:40 43 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said: Yeah, that 80m loss will be the total lost including all current ongoing expenses including wages and the amortisation of previous purchases. I think we rack up around that much of losses without spending a Last season the club turned a profit of about £20m, if you remove the sales of Minteh and Anderson that’s probably a £10m or so loss. For that to become an £80m loss this season Kelly, Osula and the Greek must be on pretty big contracts!!! There aren’t any other new costs Whilst the CL revenue will is out, adidas is in so revenue is probably around the same. FWIW I think this month the issue will be player availability. In January you have to overpay and that will be kryptonite to the Board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1892 Posted Sunday at 10:44 Share Posted Sunday at 10:44 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Last season the club turned a profit of about £20m, if you remove the sales of Minteh and Anderson that’s probably a £10m or so loss. For that to become an £80m loss this season Kelly, Osula and the Greek must be on pretty big contracts!!! There aren’t any other new costs Whilst the CL revenue will is out, adidas is in so revenue is probably around the same. FWIW I think this month the issue will be player availability. In January you have to overpay and that will be kryptonite to the Board. No. The club made a £71m operating loss last season with over £84m in player sale profits, making a £7m profit. it’s at the top of this page. We are up against it unless we sell. Edited Sunday at 10:45 by Toon1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted Sunday at 10:46 Share Posted Sunday at 10:46 5 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Last season the club turned a profit of about £20m, if you remove the sales of Minteh and Anderson that’s probably a £10m or so loss. For that to become an £80m loss this season Kelly, Osula and the Greek must be on pretty big contracts!!! There aren’t any other new costs Whilst the CL revenue will is out, adidas is in so revenue is probably around the same. FWIW I think this month the issue will be player availability. In January you have to overpay and that will be kryptonite to the Board. Key RW and CB targets are more likely attainable in summer I agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted Sunday at 10:47 Share Posted Sunday at 10:47 1 minute ago, Toon1892 said: No. The club made a £70m loss last season with over £80m in player sale profits. it’s at the top of this page. The top of th page shows a PSR profit of £23m from last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1892 Posted Sunday at 10:48 Share Posted Sunday at 10:48 Just now, WilliamPS said: The top of th page shows a PSR profit of £23m from last season. Yes but you’re saying our operating losses are £10m… they’re £70m year on year without any new signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted Sunday at 10:53 Share Posted Sunday at 10:53 Fucking hell lads, I use football as an escape from work. Less numbers, more names. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1892 Posted Sunday at 10:55 Share Posted Sunday at 10:55 If we’re allowed losses of around £84M this season and we have an operating loss of £70m before we consider Osula, Greek gk, new player contracts, agent fees etc. No champions league revenue, we really don’t have a lot of cash (if any) for new players. I don’t think we’ll do any business this month. We will wait to summer and hope to get champions league. If we don’t get champions league we will likely have to sell a star player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagCA Posted Sunday at 10:57 Share Posted Sunday at 10:57 1 minute ago, Toon1892 said: If we’re allowed losses of around £84M this season and we have an operating loss of £70m before we consider Osula, Greek gk, new player contracts, agent fees etc. No champions league revenue, we really don’t have a lot of cash (if any) for new players. I don’t think we’ll do any business this month. We will wait to summer and hope to get champions league. If we don’t get champions league we will likely have to sell a star player. But we do have the adidas contract to calculate in for 24/25. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted Sunday at 11:01 Share Posted Sunday at 11:01 5 minutes ago, Toon1892 said: If we’re allowed losses of around £84M this season and we have an operating loss of £70m before we consider Osula, Greek gk, new player contracts, agent fees etc. No champions league revenue, we really don’t have a lot of cash (if any) for new players. I don’t think we’ll do any business this month. We will wait to summer and hope to get champions league. If we don’t get champions league we will likely have to sell a star player. Longstaff it is then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon1892 Posted Sunday at 11:01 Share Posted Sunday at 11:01 2 minutes ago, MagCA said: But we do have the adidas contract to calculate in for 24/25. Interesting to see whether the champions league revenue is similar to the difference between adidas new revenue and Castore old revenue. I still think we’ll have a bigger operating loss this year which will leave no room for new signings unless someone like Miggy or Longstaff go. I dont want a repeat of last summer when we had to sell at the start of summer. I’d just prefer to sign no one in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted Sunday at 11:08 Share Posted Sunday at 11:08 (edited) It was mentioned yesterday Harvey Elliott (21) was looking to move on from Liverpool, I could honestly see Eddie shaping him to be quality, he could be the answer to the right midfield. I'd also throw in Kubo, and Edon Zhegrova of Lille. Edited Sunday at 11:21 by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted Sunday at 11:19 Share Posted Sunday at 11:19 1 hour ago, nufc4eva said: It's a shame we can't use all our money to just accelerate it all but then I think would feel a bit souless if just mop up all top players, Man City and Chelsea just plastic clubs at this point. 1 hour ago, RodneyCisse said: Im happy to currently “naturally” grow, a few seasons of regular European football and if we can grab a cup within the next 5 years I’m happy. 1 hour ago, gdm said: Yeah, it’s much better naturally building a side but no real signing in 3 windows is tedious and boring. Of course. The Man City story has never once appealed to me and teams being prevented from doing what they did is pretty much fine with me. ... But the fact that NUFC is restricted from injecting hundreds of billions of Saudi wealth into buying the Premier League isn't the issue with PSR. The issue is that each competitor has unique restrictions (or lack of) placed upon them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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