NUFC Transfer Rumours

[STM]

2 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

The way I look at it Liverpool had a situation a few years ago where they had 3 top forwards in Salah, Mane and Firmino. The backups weren't up to much but those 3 were freakishly resilient and played almost every game. We've arguably reached this point with our midfield already and are perhaps a signing away from having it in the 3 forward positions too. 

 

Liverpool then went a bit more scattergun and were able to have 5 or 6 good forwards for those 3 positions but we are miles away from that in terms of our budget. So you're looking at backups who will rarely play and you can go the Osula route or the DCL route or both.

 

Or the other option I'd like us to explore I guess is forwards with versatility, who can play predominantly wing or central when needed, which we sort of have with Gordon already. If the new RW can play striker then great, but we'd arguably still need another backup striker. 

 

I know this is a more wild comparison but I always think about Henrik Larsson going to Man United. It was a means to an end.

 

DCL at his peak was a good player, Howe will back himself to get him back to that player. He won't cost a fortune (signing on fee and wages) but signing him could put back the task of us spending 30m on another young potential forward for one more season.

 

Also, if we got any kind of productivity out of DCL, there would be sell on value.

 

It would uninspiring but incredibly practical.

[Ginola14]

Howe spoke v highly of Liam Delap in his presser today 

 

unusual to hear him talking about opposition players having great potential etc 

 

hope there's a deal in the pipeline 

[Roids]

3 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

"Signed for nowt, chipped in with a few goals. A less expensive Chris Wood if you like and never gave us two relegations like Coloccini."

get him in

[Fak]

Just now, Roids said:

get him in

 

for clarity here, I don't think anyone is "excited" about the prospect of signing DCL. I think we're very much aware there's a vacancy to be filled (replacing Wilson) and we can do that on a free transfer. And by signing him on a free it allows to us actually go out and sign the more expensive players in positions that are more pressing like RW, CB and GK. 

 

it's a free transfer, it's low risk. And as the Lloyd Kelly freebie has shown; someone might come in after a few games and offer us silly money for him. 

 

I think it's your comment about us aspiring for mediocrity because we're potentially signing a backup for nowt that's rubbed people up the wrong way. Did you think Villa were aspiring for mediocrity when they signed 30 year old Ross Barkley from a relegated Luton side just after they had qualified for the CL?

[SUPERTOON]

Is this DCL talk just based on someone’s opinion on here that we will be in for him ?

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Is this DCL talk just based on someone’s opinion on here that we will be in for him ?

The media have linked us with him seemingly every window since the takeover. It’s difficult to know how much has been genuine interest from us at the right price and how much is paper talk bollocks

[Interpolic]

With all that said about DCL, our transfers are generally opportunistic - it's been the main characteristic of most of them and good value often seems to be prioritised above the gaps in the squad. 

 

So if they think they can get Delap for £30M or whatever then I could see it happening. They'll be worried about Isak playing 3 games a week so would see Delap as a genuine rotation option. Obviously getting him ahead of Man Utd etc would be a significant challenge.

 

I think if we get Delap we'll have to leave big gaps elsewhere though. If we kick the can down the road on CB, RW or GK yet again it's a fairly big risk. 

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Interpolic

[Roids]

17 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

for clarity here, I don't think anyone is "excited" about the prospect of signing DCL. I think we're very much aware there's a vacancy to be filled (replacing Wilson) and we can do that on a free transfer. And by signing him on a free it allows to us actually go out and sign the more expensive players in positions that are more pressing like RW, CB and GK. 

 

it's a free transfer, it's low risk. And as the Lloyd Kelly freebie has shown; someone might come in after a few games and offer us silly money for him. 

 

I think it's your comment about us aspiring for mediocrity because we're potentially signing a backup for nowt that's rubbed people up the wrong way. Did you think Villa were aspiring for mediocrity when they signed 30 year old Ross Barkley from a relegated Luton side just after they had qualified for the CL?

Ross Barkley was coming off a season where he performed well for Luton, injury free no less. I'd have no problems whatsoever with that type of signing on a free.

DCL is a poor to mediocre striker who's always injured having scored just 13 goals over the last 3 seasons. There upside is minimal, the downsides are practically guaranteed.

 

If we're serious about being a regular Top 6 outfit,  push for Delap at £30m or looking elsewhere. You're letting his 'free' tag cloud his actual worth.

 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Roids

[Fak]

Just now, Roids said:

Ross Barkley was coming off a season where he performed well for Luton, injury free no less. I'd have no problems whatsoever with that type of signing on a free.

DCL is a poor to mediocre striker who's always injured having scored just 13 goals over the last 3 seasons. There upside is minimal, the downsides are practically guaranteed.

 

DCL isn't mediocre. 

[Roids]

Just now, Fak said:

 

DCL isn't mediocre. 

I agree, he aspires to be mediocre

[SUPERTOON]

What are peoples thoughts on order of priority going into the window. I think most agree that RW, CB, GK and backup striker are the main signings needed. What are peoples opinions on order of importance?

[Fak]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

What are peoples thoughts on order of priority going into the window. I think most agree that RW, CB, GK and backup striker are the main signings needed. What are peoples opinions on order of importance?

 

Probably the order you posted. We don't have left footed winger. If Schar or Burn get crocked next season we'll have Botman back. 

 

Keeper priority may move up should we sell Dubravka. 

[nufc123]

5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

What are peoples thoughts on order of priority going into the window. I think most agree that RW, CB, GK and backup striker are the main signings needed. What are peoples opinions on order of importance?

Same order but would switch ST and GK.

[Lotus]

4 hours ago, Dr Venkman said:

Useful, at worst.

I’d give him that for sure. Probably considerably better at using his strength to hold the ball up if we need to.

[GEFAFWISP]

Sooner DCL retires the better, absolute gash and the constant links are the pits. Uncreative, uninspired, not young, high wages, doesn't score, crap fashion. Rather we get Tranquillo Barnetta in.

[Holloway]

I hope DCL goes elsewhere this window, I'm fucking sick of reading about the cripple on here 

[The Prophet]

16 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

What are peoples thoughts on order of priority going into the window. I think most agree that RW, CB, GK and backup striker are the main signings needed. What are peoples opinions on order of importance?

 

Hard to put an order on it, they're all pretty essential with European football guaranteed. 

[Lush Vlad]

15 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

What are peoples thoughts on order of priority going into the window. I think most agree that RW, CB, GK and backup striker are the main signings needed. What are peoples opinions on order of importance?

 

A quick CB

RW/ST

Back up striker if we don’t get a wide forward type

GK

CM 

 

 

[Elric]

DCL is wank but I'll back Howe with whatever targets he wants, he's earned that and more. 

[KennyUtd]

31 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

DCL isn't mediocre. 

You're right, he's absolutely shite.

[Keegans Export]

When we're talking about a "backup" or "rotational" striker, it's worth baring in mind that in our last CL season Wilson made 25 appearances and played the equivalent of 15 games.

 

Whoever that is - Delap, DCL, someone else - they'll need to play a lot of minutes if we plan to be competitive domestically and in Europe.

[buzza]

Is DCL better than Wilson at this moment in time? I think he probably is and as a free Transfer It would be a simple one in one out.

Would rather spend a large wedge on Mbuemo, keeper and a rcb.

[The Prophet]

DCL is a decent target man. Holds the ball up well and he's great in the air, but he's absolute bobbins in front of goal. Watched a game earlier this season where he fluffed a hattrick of one v ones. Could be a confidence issue of course.

[Holloway]

3 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

When we're talking about a "backup" or "rotational" striker, it's worth baring in mind that in our last CL season Wilson made 25 appearances and played the equivalent of 15 games.

 

Whoever that is - Delap, DCL, someone else - they'll need to play a lot of minutes if we plan to be competitive domestically and in Europe.

It's 'bearing'. Baring is showing your arse in Fenwick's window

[Ketsbaia]

Considering money is needed for GK and CB, plus Longstaff's replacement, I don't see us spending big on both RW and CF.

 

So if we get a £50m wide guy plus DCL, I'd be fine with that.