Pata Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 21 hours ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: He isnt someone who can organise, direct, bollock others like for example Tripper does. Feel like Trippier is a better on field captain than Bruno though but thats just me. It's impossible for anyone outside the team to say someone isn't a good captain ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Pata said: It's impossible for anyone outside the team to say someone isn't a good captain ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 22 hours ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Cultural leader, what a load of rubbish man. He is no way a leader on the pitch like, hes actually quite a poor on field captain. our captain who won our first trophy in forever ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreOfNUFC Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Newcastle need numbers and, as Howe pointed out, they are yet to replace Elliot Anderson, Miguel Almiron or Lloyd Kelly. They want players for each of those positions plus a couple of marquee signings (a centre-back and right-sided forward) to take them to the next level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, CoreOfNUFC said: Newcastle need numbers and, as Howe pointed out, they are yet to replace Elliot Anderson, Miguel Almiron or Lloyd Kelly. They want players for each of those positions plus a couple of marquee signings (a centre-back and right-sided forward) to take them to the next level. Mbeumo, make it so! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, CoreOfNUFC said: Newcastle need numbers and, as Howe pointed out, they are yet to replace Elliot Anderson, Miguel Almiron or Lloyd Kelly. They want players for each of those positions plus a couple of marquee signings (a centre-back and right-sided forward) to take them to the next level. Why are you talking like some android? I thought you were one of us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreOfNUFC Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ronson333 said: Why are you talking like some android? I thought you were one of us? I am but it's a direct quote from iNews haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreOfNUFC Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, PauloGeordio said: Mbeumo, make it so! Trafford, Mbeumo, and spunk the rest on some random Brazillian bloke I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 22 hours ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said: Cultural leader, what a load of rubbish man. He is no way a leader on the pitch like, hes actually quite a poor on field captain. Your user name suits you, as that post deserves to be blown to smithereens. Edited 11 hours ago by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 11 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Mbeumo, make it so! It's a no-brainer, we gotta be in on that deal. His goals and assists the last two seasons have been crazy! Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Mbeumo, Murphy – that's an insane front line! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 30 minutes ago, tarie4 said: It's a no-brainer, we gotta be in on that deal. His goals and assists the last two seasons have been crazy! Isak, Gordon, Barnes, Mbeumo, Murphy – that's an insane front line! And he can cover for Isak! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Still don't think there's much value in Mbeumo. His non-penalty xG+xA per 90 is only 0.51 and this was the first season he outscored his xG and did it significantly (19 goals from ~13xG). Wissa (0.73) and even Schade (0.52) were ahead of him from Brentford. Some other players from the league that people probably wouldn't be that excited if we signed them (all numbers from Understat so not the best data but still): Ouattara 0.76 Sarr 0.74 Havertz 0.71 Jackson 0.68 Madueke 0.66 Son 0.65 Beto 0.65 Traore 0.64 Savio 0.61 Jimenez 0.59 Brennan Johnson 0.59 Rashford 0.56 Garnacho 0.53 Ours: Isak 0.81 Barnes 0.65 Murphy 0.60 Gordon 0.46 Willock 0.46 but on low minutes I'm not saying he would be a bad signing and him being a possible backup for Isak too would be a positive but I firmly believe we could find someone better and younger for +£60m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) Can’t decide on Mbuemo myself not many players bag the goals from wide right like he has, also think he works his bollocks off which makes him a great fit in many ways. Not sure he’s the best all round footballer though and 60 million is a hefty fee, 26 in August so would get 4 good years out of him possibly without any re-sale value. I’d be tempted to shop abroad if we could get Delap for 30 million and try to spread the budget to also bring in a top midfielder in as well. Edited 8 hours ago by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Pata said: Still don't think there's much value in Mbeumo. His non-penalty xG+xA per 90 is only 0.51 and this was the first season he outscored his xG and did it significantly (19 goals from ~13xG). Wissa (0.73) and even Schade (0.52) were ahead of him from Brentford. Some other players from the league that people probably wouldn't be that excited if we signed them (all numbers from Understat so not the best data but still): Ouattara 0.76 Sarr 0.74 Havertz 0.71 Jackson 0.68 Madueke 0.66 Son 0.65 Beto 0.65 Traore 0.64 Savio 0.61 Jimenez 0.59 Brennan Johnson 0.59 Rashford 0.56 Garnacho 0.53 Ours: Isak 0.81 Barnes 0.65 Murphy 0.60 Gordon 0.46 Willock 0.46 but on low minutes I'm not saying he would be a bad signing and him being a possible backup for Isak too would be a positive but I firmly believe we could find someone better and younger for +£60m. Like? For an example? Who you have in mind? On Mbeumo you're missing a huge stat about him! He's got 69 goals and assists in 135 Premier League games for Brentford. That's almost a goal or assist every two games – crazy consistency! That's the most important stat, really. Even before this season, his numbers were awesome, and he's only getting better. With our team creating more chances, he'll be even better (just look at Murphy). Imagine him in front of our midfield, feeding Isak, with Gordon/Barnes on the other wing. Come on, mate, this is a no-brainer! You won't find another Premier League-proven 26-year-old with better stats who'd be so keen to join us. You get someone from the continent and you taking a risk. We might not be able to afford him etc, fair play but this guy is the real deal. Again... 69 goals or assists in 135 Premier League games. No-brainer Edited 8 hours ago by tarie4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Alright, so for the right wing in this league, you've got Salah, Saka, and Mbeumo. Maybe Palmer before Mbeumo, it's close, but he's right up there, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, Yorkie said: Boom. I've said before, I think the best way to see Bruno as captain is as being our spirit animal. He's not a Trippier or Speed (who wasn't actually captain but many of the players largely felt he was) but he's something of his own. He shows what total commitment, ambition, competitiveness and willingness to take responsibility under pressure looks like, none of which should ever be sniffed at. Our leadership collective is doing the business anyhow. We're lucky/have been very skillful in collecting such a decent, self supporting bunch of characters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, tarie4 said: Like? For an example? Who you have in mind? On Mbeumo you're missing a huge stat about him! He's got 69 goals and assists in 135 Premier League games for Brentford. That's almost a goal or assist every two games – crazy consistency! That's the most important stat, really. Even before this season, his numbers were awesome, and he's only getting better. With our team creating more chances, he'll be even better (just look at Murphy). Imagine him in front of our midfield, feeding Isak, with Gordon/Barnes on the other wing. Come on, mate, this is a no-brainer! You won't find another Premier League-proven 26-year-old with better stats who'd be so keen to join us. You get someone from the continent and you taking a risk. We might not be able to afford him etc, fair play but this guy is the real deal. Again... 69 goals or assists in 135 Premier League games. No-brainer I'm not missing anything about his stats. I see one season where he massively outscored his xG compared to his previous career. And his underlying numbers really don't scream that we MUST sign this soon 26 year old for +£60m. I'm sure he'll be a decent pick up wherever he goes but I don't know if the risk/reward is there for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago There's not much risk with Mbuemo, but there isn't much reward either. He's highly unlikely to get better at this stage, so we get what we get and prey it's worth the astronomical PL-premium we'd havet to pay. If we bought him, and he had a good season, I don't think he'd be a big improvement in terms of numbers on what Murphy has provided us this season. I'd rather we took a calculated risk on someone cheaper and younger that could potentially become better than Mbuemo, while leaving us with more to spend on other positions as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Conjo said: There's not much risk with Mbuemo, but there isn't much reward either. He's highly unlikely to get better at this stage, so we get what we get and prey it's worth the astronomical PL-premium we'd havet to pay. If we bought him, and he had a good season, I don't think he'd be a big improvement in terms of numbers on what Murphy has provided us this season. I'd rather we took a calculated risk on someone cheaper and younger that could potentially become better than Mbuemo, while leaving us with more to spend on other positions as well. Agree with this, I wouldn't be unhappy if we got Mbuemo but at the same time I think we need to be more strategical with our money. We also need to look at central midfield because we lack goals from that area to take us to the next level imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 3 hours ago, Conjo said: There's not much risk with Mbuemo, but there isn't much reward either. He's highly unlikely to get better at this stage, so we get what we get and prey it's worth the astronomical PL-premium we'd havet to pay. If we bought him, and he had a good season, I don't think he'd be a big improvement in terms of numbers on what Murphy has provided us this season. I'd rather we took a calculated risk on someone cheaper and younger that could potentially become better than Mbuemo, while leaving us with more to spend on other positions as well. I get where your coming from but what’s to say Mbuemo can’t get even better playing with the likes of Isak and under the management of Howe? I do agree that all our signings can’t be big profile signings but I think Mbuemo would be an awesome signing, premier league ready, he’d help us beat the top teams away. That said if Mitchel has an option of the type you’ve outlined then I’m all for that too. I just hope we get CL to see what we can really do in the transfer market this window. Edited 1 hour ago by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: I get where your coming from but what’s to say Mbuemo can’t get even better playing with the likes of Isak and under the management of Howe? I do agree that all our signings can’t be big profile signings but I think Mbuemo would be an awesome signing, premier league ready, he’d help us beat the top teams away. That said if Mitchel has an option of the type you’ve outlined then I’m all for that too. I just hope we get CL to see what we can really do in the transfer market this window. I agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristov Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Had my heart set on Akliouche for the RW position but all the rumours yesterday are liverpool are looking at him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 33 minutes ago Share Posted 33 minutes ago 37 minutes ago, Cristov said: Had my heart set on Akliouche for the RW position but all the rumours yesterday are liverpool are looking at him They can't buy everyone can they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted 28 minutes ago Share Posted 28 minutes ago 4 hours ago, Pata said: I'm not missing anything about his stats. I see one season where he massively outscored his xG compared to his previous career. And his underlying numbers really don't scream that we MUST sign this soon 26 year old for +£60m. I'm sure he'll be a decent pick up wherever he goes but I don't know if the risk/reward is there for us. Mate. What's Lamine Yamals xg90 and xA90 compared to Murphy ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarie4 Posted 27 minutes ago Share Posted 27 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: They can't buy everyone can they Enter Chelsea 😃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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