McCormick Posted Wednesday at 13:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:28 I’ll say it again. What do people see in Dibling? He’ll be lucky if he gets to Madueke levels imo let alone Mbeumo. Not a lot of player there (right now) for 55m. If Bryan M’s going for sub 60m it’s an absolute no brainer choosing between the 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted Wednesday at 13:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:28 haven't seen much of Dibling but sounds v exciting https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn4yen2xgrxo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted Wednesday at 13:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:29 If we were in the Europa/Conference we could have a year of young players like Dibling but we aren’t so we need Champions League players as soon as possible. Mbuemo in our team managed by Howe is that player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted Wednesday at 13:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:30 11 minutes ago, Fak said: I think Dibling has a higher ceiling than Mbuemo, and I'm ok with that for £55m. but we need what? 3-4 years? Before Dibling become a better player? I would prefer to go for Mbeumo and challenge the title next season, rather than waiting for a few years later when our purple patches might have been gone by that time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted Wednesday at 13:34 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:34 FYI Barnes in Premier League this season 9 goals, 5 assists from 1,754 minutes so 125 minutes per g/a Mbeumo excluding pens got 15 goals and 9 assist from 3,417 minutes so 142 minutes per g/a I didn't know that data before looking but I'd put Mbeumo on a similar level to Barnes, I rate Barnes, and think Mbeumo would be a good signing, but think some may have unrealistic expectations of what Mbeumo would bring based on one great season (numbers wise). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted Wednesday at 13:35 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:35 6 minutes ago, McCormick said: I’ll say it again. What do people see in Dibling? He’ll be lucky if he gets to Madueke levels imo let alone Mbeumo. Not a lot of player there (right now) for 55m. If Bryan M’s going for sub 60m it’s an absolute no brainer choosing between the 2. My post choosing Dibling over Mbeumo would be with the added caveat that Howe has chosen to go that route, that would be enough to excite me to his potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Wednesday at 13:37 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:37 (edited) Here's a question. So obviously we lack squad depth etc. But I see a slight issue that I don't know the answer to. Say we signed Guehi and Mbeumo and the went straight into the first 11. Great, we have upgraded two positions and then it also means we have more depth in that Murphy and Schar/Burn are available to step in when needed.... However as we have seen, most players need sharpness and regular matches to play at their maximum. So if a Burn or Schar become a bit part player at their age, we can't expect the same level of performance as we have seen this year if they need to step in at short notice to cover injury or suspension. Similar to how bad Longstaff has looked in comparison to when he was playing week in and week out and to a lesser extent Willock, although his performance drop I would put mostly due to injuries. Not sure what I'm getting at here as clearly we need depth, but I'm just saying the players we drop to the bench, won't be as useful as they are now in theory. Edited Wednesday at 13:44 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted Wednesday at 13:37 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:37 Mbeumo under Eddie though. I mean this is the manager who made Jacob Murphy look international level. Mbeumo will look like Messi when Eddie's got hold of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted Wednesday at 13:38 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:38 23 minutes ago, BergenMagpie said: 55m is way too much for Dibling Likely but he reminds me a lot of that Georgian guy who plays on the wing for PSG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted Wednesday at 13:39 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:39 (edited) 2 minutes ago, alexf said: Here's a question. So obviously we lack squad depth etc. But I see a slight issue that I don't know the answer to. Saw we signed Guehi and Mbeumo and the went straight into the first 11. He great, we have upgraded to positions and then it also means we have more depth in that Murphy and Schar/Burn are available to step in when needed.... However as we have seen, most players need sharpness and regular matches to play at their maximum. So if a Burn or Schar become a bit part player at their age, we can't expect the same level of performance as we have seen this year if they need to step in at short notice to cover injury or suspension. Similar to how bad Longstaff has looked in comparison to when he was playing week in and week out and to a lesser extent Willock, although his performance drop I would put mostly due to injuries. Not sure what I'm getting at here as clearly we need depth, but I'm just saying the players we drop to the bench, won't be as useful as they are now in theory. Think it comes down to more squad rotation, so everyone gets at leadt some semi-regular starts and/or signifigant minutes. Stop relying on same starting 11 as much/often as possible. Edited Wednesday at 13:40 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Wednesday at 13:42 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:42 39 minutes ago, Menace said: The spelling of Mbeumo/Mbuemo is already annoying me and the window hasn't even started. I was checking Jacobs tweet just to make it right, but the looney got it wrong also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Wednesday at 13:42 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:42 46 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said: Hmm Dibling for £55m or Mbeumo for £60m. Bryan easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted Wednesday at 13:44 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:44 3 minutes ago, mondonewc said: FYI Barnes in Premier League this season 9 goals, 5 assists from 1,754 minutes so 125 minutes per g/a Mbeumo excluding pens got 15 goals and 9 assist from 3,417 minutes so 142 minutes per g/a I didn't know that data before looking but I'd put Mbeumo on a similar level to Barnes, I rate Barnes, and think Mbeumo would be a good signing, but think some may have unrealistic expectations of what Mbeumo would bring based on one great season (numbers wise). On the one great season point, Mbeumo got 9 in 25 the year before but had a bad injury. He’s at 29 goals in 63 PL games in the last 2 seasons in a very average, mid table team. He’s also showing he can work really well with a main striker based on Wissa doing so well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Wednesday at 13:46 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:46 Brentford are setup to score lots of goals. Wissa had as many open play goals as Isak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted Wednesday at 13:47 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:47 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TK-421 said: Think it comes down to more squad rotation, so everyone gets at leadt some semi-regular starts and/or signifigant minutes. Stop relying on same starting 11 as much/often as possible. I guess we haven't had chance to see it under Eddie as we have never had much of a squad outside of 12-13 core players. But history tells us he never likes to change his back 4 unless to go back 5 for the odd game and generally never changes a winning team either. So yeah I think it would require him to trust the squad and not be afraid to rotate. Edited Wednesday at 13:48 by alexf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Wednesday at 13:47 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:47 18 minutes ago, McCormick said: I’ll say it again. What do people see in Dibling? He’ll be lucky if he gets to Madueke levels imo let alone Mbeumo. Not a lot of player there (right now) for 55m. If Bryan M’s going for sub 60m it’s an absolute no brainer choosing between the 2. I don't even know how this is a debate. Mbeumo's numbers are literally insane for the last few years - Dibling's had 5 good games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted Wednesday at 13:48 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:48 Mbeumo would be away for AFCON I presume. From the 21st of December. That could be an important factor in whether to sign him or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Wednesday at 13:50 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:50 1 minute ago, Lotus said: Mbeumo would be away for AFCON I presume. From the 21st of December. That could be an important factor in whether to sign him or not. Murphy is fine as back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted Wednesday at 13:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:58 Would Murphy, Schar or Burn be prepared to be backups to new imports, or would they say too hell with this get me outa here, Howe nay need to do a hell of a juggling act. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted Wednesday at 13:59 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:59 24 minutes ago, mondonewc said: FYI Barnes in Premier League this season 9 goals, 5 assists from 1,754 minutes so 125 minutes per g/a Mbeumo excluding pens got 15 goals and 9 assist from 3,417 minutes so 142 minutes per g/a I didn't know that data before looking but I'd put Mbeumo on a similar level to Barnes, I rate Barnes, and think Mbeumo would be a good signing, but think some may have unrealistic expectations of what Mbeumo would bring based on one great season (numbers wise). On the back of this, can anyone see a world we sell Gordon and have the following 4 wingers: LW Barnes, Osula RW Mbeumo, Murphy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted Wednesday at 14:00 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:00 Russel Martin said he thinks Dibling will end up as an 8 or a 10 eventually, so he has some versatility too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted Wednesday at 14:00 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:00 Can people stop trying to sell Gordon ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted Wednesday at 14:01 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:01 Just now, McCormick said: Can people stop trying to sell Gordon ffs. He’s going nowhere soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted Wednesday at 14:02 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:02 2 minutes ago, JP said: On the back of this, can anyone see a world we sell Gordon and have the following 4 wingers: LW Barnes, Osula RW Mbeumo, Murphy No. It will be Gordon and Barnes and Mbeumo and Murphy - sorted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted Wednesday at 14:04 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:04 3 minutes ago, McCormick said: Can people stop trying to sell Gordon ffs. Wasn't trying to and don't want to. Just seeing if anyone else could see it happening. I'd be gutted if he left tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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