NUFC Transfer Rumours

[STM]

1 minute ago, andycap said:

Yeah but what if it doesn't work out. 

The next manager will be lumbered with th ex managers transfer dealings. 

 

Aye what a problem hes going to have, being lumbered with class players with good attitudes. 

 

If/when Howe goes, the club can restructure how it wishes, right now Howe is than man with the power and I couldn't think of anyone better.

[andycap]

4 minutes ago, STM said:

 

Aye what a problem hes going to have, being lumbered with class players with good attitudes. 

 

If/when Howe goes, the club can restructure how it wishes, right now Howe is than man with the power and I couldn't think of anyone better.

Just think we should have a system in place is all that future proofs the club should howe leave. So it should be a quick manager replacement process. 

[tarie4]

28 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

That's not what they said either tbf.

This gets way more clicks though.

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by tarie4

[Hanshithispantz]

2 hours ago, ikri said:

 

He's 4cm shorter than Harvey Barnes.  

Not a chance that's true mind 

[Shearergol]

He's 5cm shorter than Salah. What's our cutoff?

[Hanshithispantz]

12 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

He's 5cm shorter than Salah. What's our cutoff?

He's quite stocky, a bit bit like Fraser with his build, but he is very small like 

 

You cannot just discount his height. He could be a bargain for £50m though, but probably to a team who keep the ball a lot more than we do.

[TRon]

2 hours ago, HayDen Traces said:

Its not Elliot OR Elanga is it? Wouldn't Elliot play a more central role helping us unlock defences. I dont think he has the pace to play RW permanently for us.

 

I think we want Elanga, but like with other PL based players we'll have to pay through the nose to get him. I'm hoping we've got some good alternatives lined up abroad who we can at least use alongside Murphy and who will have a higher ceiling. 

[wong989]

1 hour ago, Mikky said:

As an alternative you can get Kang-In for 10m less I reckon 

Great shout left footed as well, can play off the right, midfield, absolute technical quality. The level we need in the squad. Should definitely try it, although if I’m PSG, there’s not many who can step into that midfield and it stays at about same level, he can.

[HayDen Traces]

6 minutes ago, wong989 said:

Great shout left footed as well, can play off the right, midfield, absolute technical quality. The level we need in the squad. Should definitely try it, although if I’m PSG, there’s not many who can step into that midfield and it stays at about same level, he can.

Is he quick enough and physical enough for the prem. Not for me

[wong989]

1 minute ago, HayDen Traces said:

Is he quick enough and physical enough for the prem. Not for me

Not quick enough to be a traditional in out threat in the wing I don’t think, be a different type… I think his intelligence and technique mean his lack of stature isn’t a concern the way it might be with others. 

[Holmesy]

We've clearly come into this window really well prepared, having spent the past 18 months of inactivity doing the ground work. 

Top notch stuff so far

[gbandit]

Not going to get in a flap yet but if we don’t end up with several major additions to the squad by the end of the window then it’ll be a complete and utter disgrace and will make me question what the fuck is going on behind the scenes. Howe is holding this all together, if he goes it all crumbles very quickly. We needed to act faster than this and it’s already a major concern that we haven’t got anyone in yet as it just pushes progress for the season back further and further

[Whitley mag]

1 minute ago, Holmesy said:

We've clearly come into this window really well prepared, having spent the past 18 months of inactivity doing the ground work. 

Top notch stuff so far

Think they’ve just gone with top targets first, but agree it’s starting to look incredibly naive to think on a limited budget you can prize players from other PL clubs.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, gbandit said:

Not going to get in a flap yet but if we don’t end up with several major additions to the squad by the end of the window then it’ll be a complete and utter disgrace and will make me question what the fuck is going on behind the scenes. Howe is holding this all together, if he goes it all crumbles very quickly. We needed to act faster than this and it’s already a major concern that we haven’t got anyone in yet as it just pushes progress for the season back further and further

 

I wouldn't say it's a major concern yet, but your overall point is right. 

 

Obviously you can't run a successful football club going multiple summer windows without a signing  I'm assuming that's not the plan. 

[duo]

2 hours ago, gdm said:

BILD mind

He should be looking how Eddie revived Isaks career to make him one of the most sought after strikers in the world 

[gbandit]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I wouldn't say it's a major concern yet, but your overall point is right. 

 

Obviously you can't run a successful football club going multiple summer windows without a signing  I'm assuming that's not the plan. 

I think the element that makes it concerning for me was Howe saying he wanted us to move fast. This has not been fast. The concern is compounded by the fact that Howe integrates players into the squad slower than almost any other manager so the longer it takes for us to sign players, the longer it will be before we see them / see them up to full speed 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, STM said:

 

Aye what a problem hes going to have, being lumbered with class players with good attitudes. 

 

If/when Howe goes, the club can restructure how it wishes, right now Howe is than man with the power and I couldn't think of anyone better.

Tbf the point of a good DoF is to get an entire footballing philosophy ingrained at the club, so that all the clubs teams from youth teams to first team play in the same way, and the club signs players in line with that philosophy - and not the whims of individual managers.  Plenty of the most successful clubs do this - it reduces the risks of managerial appointments, as they become more like coaches.

 

If Howe were to leave and be replaced by a manager with a different style, then loads of the players Howe loved might just become surplus very quickly, and it costs a fortune while we sell and buy a new team.   We’ve seen it before of course - going from KK to Dalglish to Gullit to Robson - that’s the danger. 
 

To me, you’d want a DoF willing to adopt Howe’s style throughout the club, so that any successor will be in the ‘Howe mould’. 

[STM]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Tbf the point of a good DoF is to get an entire footballing philosophy ingrained at the club, so that all the clubs teams from youth teams to first team play in the same way, and the club signs players in line with that philosophy - and not the whims of individual managers.  Plenty of the most successful clubs do this - it reduces the risks of managerial appointments, as they become more like coaches.

 

If Howe were to leave and be replaced by a manager with a different style, then loads of the players Howe loved might just become surplus very quickly, and it costs a fortune while we sell and buy a new team.   We’ve seen it before of course - going from KK to Dalglish to Gullit to Robson - that’s the danger. 
 

To me, you’d want a DoF willing to adopt Howe’s style throughout the club, so that any successor will be in the ‘Howe mould’. 

 

Yeah i understand the role. Problem is that we hired a manager first and hes class.

[madras]

2 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I think the element that makes it concerning for me was Howe saying he wanted us to move fast. This has not been fast. The concern is compounded by the fact that Howe integrates players into the squad slower than almost any other manager so the longer it takes for us to sign players, the longer it will be before we see them / see them up to full speed 

What does move fast mean ? Surely all we can do is put a bid in and see what happens.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, STM said:

 

Yeah i understand the role. Problem is that we hired a manager first and hes class.

Agreed - which is why I’d look to find a DoF with a similar football style / philosophy and appoint him on that basis

[Whitley mag]

1 minute ago, gbandit said:

I think the element that makes it concerning for me was Howe saying he wanted us to move fast. This has not been fast. The concern is compounded by the fact that Howe integrates players into the squad slower than almost any other manager so the longer it takes for us to sign players, the longer it will be before we see them / see them up to full speed 

Howe is in charge of transfers now though is he not ? We really don’t know who’s to blame for not signing anyone, if he’s narrowed in on PL players which we can’t afford then surely he’s to blame ?

 

On the other hand if it’s because we have no structure in place without a DOF, or it’s because PIF’s processes are causing the problem then yeah Howe must be getting pissed off.

 

Trouble at the min is we have no idea who is to blame for the inaction.

[Weezertron]

Probably said this before but getting the cup, CL and an elite manager were meant to be major pulls for players this window. Doesn't seem like anyone gives a fuck about any of them, which is fine as it's out of our hands. Maybe we're naive to the mindset of a modern footballer. 

 

But we probably need to swallow our pride and drop down to the next group of players quality wise, where we'll compete against Brighton, Forest and Villa.

[Shearergol]

1 minute ago, Weezertron said:

Probably said this before but getting the cup, CL and an elite manager were meant to be major pulls for players this window. Doesn't seem like anyone gives a fuck about any of them, which is fine as it's out of our hands. Maybe we're naive to the mindset of a modern footballer. 

 

But we probably need to swallow our pride and drop down to the next group of players quality wise, where we'll compete against Brighton, Forest and Villa.

 

I reckon £200k-£300k a week in wages is a bigger pull than us winning the carabao cup last season.

[Ellis H]

3 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

We've clearly come into this window really well prepared, having spent the past 18 months of inactivity doing the ground work. 

Top notch stuff so far

“Same as last year, lads?”

 

It’s genuinely quite hard to believe we haven’t identified other/better players than the ones we’ve been chasing for multiple transfer windows. Are Elanga, Pedro, Trafford etc the best we can find? And if they are, why are we fucking around over minimal amounts of money?
 

We will obviously have other options but given our activity they’re clearly not considered better than the usual names.

 

[Holmesy]

55 minutes ago, Ellis H said:

“Same as last year, lads?”

 

It’s genuinely quite hard to believe we haven’t identified other/better players than the ones we’ve been chasing for multiple transfer windows. Are Elanga, Pedro, Trafford etc the best we can find? And if they are, why are we fucking around over minimal amounts of money?
 

We will obviously have other options but given our activity they’re clearly not considered better than the usual names.

 

I just don't see how there's any excuse. We've literally done fuck all for the best part of 2 years and we seem to be as ill-prepared as it's possible to be.
Obviously we can't legislate for other clubs coming in for players, but why haven't we been sounding out their agents beforehand?

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Holmesy