SUPERTOON Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, Kid Icarus said: True, but it's only been one season of it like. Aye, but one season of us playing at an intensity I’m not sure he can handle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: True, but it's only been one season of it like. Think there was a post on here when the Tierney links were going on that showed ASM had missed as many days as him over the last few seasons due to injury. His overall appearances don't look bad but I can't remember the Bruce days and if he had a bunch of sub apps due to returning from layoffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: The irony of this post being Maxi's single handedly saved us from relegation twice and this has been forgotten after one sketchy season. I don't want to disrespect Saint-Maximin at all, he's a wonderfully talented player that came up big when we were shit. I do also feel like the team becoming more structured - along with injury issues - have killed his career here. He's not able to play the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 On ASM, worth remembering that unless we plan on offering him a new contract, then this is our last chance to make decent money from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Shak said: We could sign Barnes and Diaby and play Isak as a false nine. Tonali and Bruno certainly make the 4-2-3-1 a possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, Pata said: Tonali and Bruno certainly make the 4-2-3-1 a possibility. yeah?against konate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, BeloEmre said: So tell me about our good left side? ASM is decent and Joelinton did a fantastic job there when called upon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Certainly not complaining at Barnes, but even if ASM left I assumed Joe would be wide left next year with Gordon to come in. I can only assume Gordon has been brought in to play on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, Newcastle Fan said: ASM is decent and Joelinton did a fantastic job there when called upon. ASM is injured all the time and yes, Joelinton did well there but he’s a midfielder. We need wingers on both sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: ASM is in literally the top 1-10% of players in Europe's top leagues for assists, expected assists, carries, succesful take ons and runs and passes into the penalty area, shot and goal creating actions per 90, and all despite having an injury ravaged season. No end product is the opposite of his problem, it's a strength. Ironically, I think his biggest problem last season is not being greedy enough. He's hardly taken any shots himself. This is how I see it too, it’s extremely hard to replace ASM’s abilities and I think Howe knows that. He’s a unique talent that would be a real weapon if he can stay fit and he understands what Howe wants even better. Really hope we don’t give up on him yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, Pata said: This is how I see it too, it’s extremely hard to replace ASM’s abilities and I think Howe knows that. He’s a unique talent that would be a real weapon if he can stay fit and he understands what Howe wants even better. Really hope we don’t give up on him yet. We finished 4th without relying on his abilities for the majority of the season though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Maxi is a good player I just don't think he fits the team now, he was the one bright light for years but now seems out of place. We need to accept as we develop as a club players will move on and I think it is his time. Thanks for the memories, thanks for the joy, thanks for the passion and thanks for been the antidote to Bruce Ball, but also thanks for the £'s to help us improve the squad, it will be others next year and is just part and parcel of our journey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: yeah?against konate? Excuse me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 26 minutes ago, gdm said: Honestly what were you watching? Maxi setting up Joelinton etc to fuck it up isn’t being a ‘show pony’ we can absolutely say injuries have hindered him and we can absolutely say howe has tried to get him to adapt which has made him far less direct but to call him a show pony is ridiculous No but the memes of him doing 10 step overs without progressing the ball or beating a man certainly was. The reality is if ASM was half as good as some think, with a modicum of consistency, he wouldn’t have remained at Newcastle under Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Pata said: Excuse me? @McCormick plz help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We finished 4th without relying on his abilities for the majority of the season though. Yeah but he has the skill set to take us even further when everything clicks is my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, hakka said: Excuse me sir, but he damn well was world class still for a good while after that. No, he really wasn’t. The Shearer we signed and had in 96/97 never returned after that injury. It is testament to his ability and his strength of character that he changed his game and remained an excellent PL striker. But he wasn’t one of the world’s great centre forwards after 97. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Could be an unpopular opinion at this point but I think I prefer Joelinton on the left rather than as part of a central three. He has that side of the pitch completely locked down and I think there's more to come from him offensively, too. Not to mention his excellent understanding with Willock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pata said: Tonali and Bruno certainly make the 4-2-3-1 a possibility. Nah just do it in a 4-3-3. Feels like playing through Isak as much as possible would probably be a good idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Barnes23 said: Could be an unpopular opinion at this point but I think I prefer Joelinton on the left rather than as part of a central three. He has that side of the pitch completely locked down and I think there's more to come from him offensively, too. Not to mention his excellent understanding with Willock. No, I’m with you on that. I’ve seen lots of comments re Joelinton-Bruno-Tonali, but Joelinton looks a lot better LW for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 I would personally sell ASM and Miggy (value at probable all time high after good season, fast approaching 30) this summer. Line up some dosh for FFP shenanigans even though it’s a myth and run it back with Big Joe, Barnes, Gordon, Murphy, Chiesa, Anderson Crucify me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 What all this means essentially is this year is the redemption arc of ASM. Last summer when we were linked with Diaby and Maddison it was all about getting rid of Almiron and no end product etc and look what happened there. Mark my words, a worldie season coming up from ASM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: What all this means essentially is this year is the redemption arc of ASM. Last summer when we were linked with Diaby and Maddison it was all about getting rid of Almiron and no end product etc and look what happened there. Mark my words, a worldie season coming up from ASM You might be right. But I won’t be watching the Saudi league to find out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Barnes looks like one of those players that scores 15 goals in a shit side and 3 goals for a good side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, kocunar said: Barnes looks like one of those players that scores 15 goals in a shit side and 3 goals for a good side. Yeah, I know what you mean - both him and Maddison could be just that. But we’ll soon find out - I think it’s a good signing tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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