Dr.Spaceman Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 It's great, the less activity the better for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 1 hour ago, black_n_white said: Mad that the transfer window is open and barely any club can sign neebody What it needs is a well run club with rich owners and deep pockets to start buying players... Then who knows the club who sold the player would either be able to balance their books or be able to spend money and buy a replacement. Radical idea but we could even call it a transfer window and everyone could join in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 Part of me thinks we should fuck off this transfer window. I'd rather we go mental in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 I do think Sky will start to get restless if there are further Jan windows like this. Viewing figures/general engagement will be way down. Between commercial partners, and FFP starting to bite even for top 6 sides (Man U and Chelsea both apparently limited this window) I can see a re-jig of the rules in the next couple years. I mean, even just adjusting the losses allowed to account for inflation would be a start. It hasn't changed since it was implemented. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: I do think Sky will start to get restless if there are further Jan windows like this. Viewing figures/general engagement will be way down. Between commercial partners, and FFP starting to bite even for top 6 sides (Man U and Chelsea both apparently limited this window) I can see a re-jig of the rules in the next couple years. I mean, even just adjusting the losses allowed to account for inflation would be a start. It hasn't changed since it was implemented. TL;DR Scrap FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 2 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: I do think Sky will start to get restless if there are further Jan windows like this. Viewing figures/general engagement will be way down. Between commercial partners, and FFP starting to bite even for top 6 sides (Man U and Chelsea both apparently limited this window) I can see a re-jig of the rules in the next couple years. I mean, even just adjusting the losses allowed to account for inflation would be a start. It hasn't changed since it was implemented. I think the limit should also be reviewed each year based on the most recent window. Chelsea, Arsenal and City spending £100 million plus on a single player massively inflated the transfer window. As much as I dislike them, even Liverpool were priced out of bidding war with Chelsea for Caicedo because of the fee arsenal paid for Rice. And to be fair he never looked a 100 million player before or after they signed him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 I personally feel like clubs should be allowed to go over the allowed loss limit, with the proviso that however far past it they go, they have to put that same amount of money aside. The club only getting access to it either when the club changes ownership, or after a set period of time. Essentially you can go say 20m over the limit, but you have to then put a further 20m aside. If FFP were really about ensuring clubs can't spend beyond their means or get left high and dry then that covers it. Obviously we all know what FFP is actually about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 1 hour ago, sushimonster85 said: I personally feel like clubs should be allowed to go over the allowed loss limit, with the proviso that however far past it they go, they have to put that same amount of money aside. The club only getting access to it either when the club changes ownership, or after a set period of time. Essentially you can go say 20m over the limit, but you have to then put a further 20m aside. If FFP were really about ensuring clubs can't spend beyond their means or get left high and dry then that covers it. Obviously we all know what FFP is actually about. I think it's as simple as creating hardship exceptions for injuries/suspensions. If a player is injured and out for the season or suspended for being a gambling addict and out for the season, that player's wages should not count towards your FFP cap. I am assuming no club will ever have enough injuries that spending into these exceptions would endanger their long-term financial health. Although if we didn't have loaded owners, us this season may have been at risk of doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 (edited) I like Kalvin Phillips and think he'd be a good stopgap but if City are genuinely asking for £7 million loan fee plus an obligation to buy for £30-40 million then that is an absolute piss take tbf and we should stay well clear. He's been a total flop for them, had injuries, and is now approaching 29 in the summer. They'd be making a profit FFS at that valuation - which is absurd particularly in the current market vacuum created by FFP. He's a career reconstruction job and any club that takes him off their hands is doing them a favour. A small loan fee with a reasonable fixed buy option in the summer would be more than fair. Edited January 16, 2024 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: I like Kalvin Phillips and think he'd be a good stopgap but if City are genuinely asking for £7 million loan fee plus an obligation to buy for £30-40 million then that is an absolute piss take tbf and we should stay well clear. He's been a total flop for them, had injuries, and is now approaching 29 in the summer. They'd be making a profit FFS at that valuation - which is absurd particularly in the current market vacuum created by FFP. He's a career reconstruction job and any club that takes him off their hands is doing them a favour. A small loan fee with a reasonable fixed buy option in the summer would be more than fair. Yeah agree with this. Anything over a £3m loan fee with a c£25m option and it’s seeya later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 7 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: I like Kalvin Phillips and think he'd be a good stopgap but if City are genuinely asking for £7 million loan fee plus an obligation to buy for £30-40 million then that is an absolute piss take tbf and we should stay well clear. He's been a total flop for them, had injuries, and is now approaching 29 in the summer. They'd be making a profit FFS at that valuation - which is absurd particularly in the current market vacuum created by FFP. He's a career reconstruction job and any club that takes him off their hands is doing them a favour. A small loan fee with a reasonable fixed buy option in the summer would be more than fair. I want him here and I think he'd be good, but I agree. Really wouldn't like the idea of having £60-70m of 2024/25 transfer fees committed to Hall and Phillips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 10 hours ago, JonBez comesock said: Unbelievable this season. Only 2:17 seconds in scouting our proposed new signing and he gets an injury! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted January 16, 2024 Share Posted January 16, 2024 22 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: I like Kalvin Phillips and think he'd be a good stopgap but if City are genuinely asking for £7 million loan fee plus an obligation to buy for £30-40 million then that is an absolute piss take tbf and we should stay well clear. He's been a total flop for them, had injuries, and is now approaching 29 in the summer. They'd be making a profit FFS at that valuation - which is absurd particularly in the current market vacuum created by FFP. He's a career reconstruction job and any club that takes him off their hands is doing them a favour. A small loan fee with a reasonable fixed buy option in the summer would be more than fair. Given his salary (assuming no man city pay off)you’re probably looking at 10-15 max tbh, and I like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 4 hours ago, sushimonster85 said: I do think Sky will start to get restless if there are further Jan windows like this. Viewing figures/general engagement will be way down. Between commercial partners, and FFP starting to bite even for top 6 sides (Man U and Chelsea both apparently limited this window) I can see a re-jig of the rules in the next couple years. I mean, even just adjusting the losses allowed to account for inflation would be a start. It hasn't changed since it was implemented. Aye, don't think I've seen them spam my screen about transfers on SSN too many times this January. Fuck all to report about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 I do wonder if Ashworths success at Brighton was due to them being a plucky underdog and flying under the radar. Our squad could really do with some lower prices gambles but does our perceived riches make that harder to negotiate bargains. Even another of own Perez or Schar would be great right now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: I do wonder if Ashworths success at Brighton was due to them being a plucky underdog and flying under the radar. Our squad could really do with some lower prices gambles but does our perceived riches make that harder to negotiate bargains. Even another of own Perez or Schar would be great right now... The scouting at Brighton was more down to the owners scouting models than Ashworth. Ashworth appears to be more of an administrator than some form of Uber talent scout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 1 hour ago, RobsonsWonderland said: I do wonder if Ashworths success at Brighton was due to them being a plucky underdog and flying under the radar. Our squad could really do with some lower prices gambles but does our perceived riches make that harder to negotiate bargains. Even another of own Perez or Schar would be great right now... Highly thought of at the FA. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/11509145/dan-ashworths-huge-role-in-englands-transformation-explained Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 Linked with Joshua Kimmich today. That'd be a canny upgrade on Phillips mind... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaksbigrightfoot Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 I really don’t think we will buy anyone this window. FFP is hitting a lot of clubs hard and with the examples of Everton and Forrest I think the window will be the lowest spending window in recent history. Transfer fees have gone mental. 7m loan signing fee and 40m for Phillips is ridiculous for a player who is 29 and hardly kicked a ball in 2 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 18 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Almost certainly bullshit but he’d be amazing for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 Bild Kimmichs agent is looking for a bag clearly. He won’t be coming here that we can be certain of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Norman Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 I wish we would be looking at Konstantelias from PAOK. He really impressed me in the Europa Conference matches I saw this year. The asking price is around 20M Euros and allegedly Brighton is already sniffing around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 Doesn't that Falk guy have a track record of being a bullshit merchant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted January 17, 2024 Share Posted January 17, 2024 28 minutes ago, S Norman said: I wish we would be looking at Konstantelias from PAOK. He really impressed me in the Europa Conference matches I saw this year. The asking price is around 20M Euros and allegedly Brighton is already sniffing around Guessing you havent read any other thread in weeks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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