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AC Milan 0-0 Newcastle United (19/09/23)


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2 minutes ago, Superior Acuña said:

Where  were our fans located last night? I thought behind the goal to the right, but just saw most of that stand in this clip and doesn't look like

 

 

Left of that clip behind that goal

Top tier

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Lots being made of the midfield again and there were a few passes that got in behind but that's football. Unless you sit in banks all the time then that space will exist and teams will find pockets on occasion. At one point, their RB roamed into an AM position and had a shot - that's canny hard to account for defensively.

 

Looking at the highlights, most of their best chances came from wide positions and set pieces. They put in a lot of crosses.

Milan didn’t look to exploit those areas much. Their wingers were wide and more interested in going 1v1 with our FBs. But they still found plenty of space there. 
 

We didn’t come to press so why didn’t we sit in a compact bank? We struggled to play through Liverpools 10 man bank because it was tight and compact. 

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44 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

I must be easily pleased me like. Plucky newcomers, Newcastle, caught like rabbits in a headlight but scrape a clean sheet and a point away to last season's semi finalists and annual contenders, AC Milan.

Buzzin me

 

I don't think that's lost on anyone tbf mate.

 

I'm simultaneously happy we've just taken a draw from the San siro in our first game, and disappointed that we looked really disjointed and lost even when it came to simple passes.

 

It's not exactly like Milan were peak Barca, they were actually very wasteful with the opportunities we gave them. 

 

Sure even you can admit we look a bit iffy atm. Thankfully the lads are determined and dug deep to take the draw in the end.

 

Look forward to our home match against them me.

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It was quite reminiscencent of the Spurs and Arsenal games last season. We were shredded in the opening 20 minutes, but survived, tactically adjusted and found a way to nick a result from the game. In both of those games Son and Saka tore us apart in the opening exchanges.

 

It should be seen as a triumph and something to build on rather than a pant-shitting exercise.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

It was quite reminiscencent of the Spurs and Arsenal games last season. We were shredded in the opening 20 minutes, but survived, tactically adjusted and found a way to nick a result from the game. In both of those games Son and Saka tore us apart in the opening exchanges.

 

It should be seen as a triumph and something to build on rather than a pant-shitting exercise.

 

 

 

Indeed

Just another case of people forgetting themselves. Fucking buzzing with the point me and most people I know were as well

Reading twitter you'd think we'd got hammered 6 nowt

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It shouldn’t be underestimated how rare away wins in the CL are.

 

Only two last night, one that doesn’t really count (Porto at Shakhtar), and Leipzig at Young Boys, who might be the weakest team in the tournament.

 

Man City won one away game in last season’s CL.

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Just now, jack j said:

Indeed

Just another case of people forgetting themselves. Fucking buzzing with the point me and most people I know were as well

Reading twitter you'd think we'd got hammered 6 nowt

 

I totally understand the concerns about the lack of cohesion in attack. We're missing Willock and Joelinton, Tonali is taking a bit of time to learn his role and as a result the midfield looks a bit imbalanced. It's resulted in us struggling to effectively get the ball from back to front.

 

While it certainly reared its head yesterday, I'm not concerned. If us laymen have clocked it there's not a chance it's passed Howe and his team by and they aren't being proactive about it.

 

So while I'd liked to have seen us as more of an attacking threat, I'm still absolutely delighted with a point away to last season's semifinalists in a dogged, backs to the wall kind of way. If we can't enjoy these games we might as well pack it in as football fans.

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2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We’re going through a period of finding form as well, I’m heartened by Brentford and Milan games. Almost going back to just working and waiting for the attacking form to return. 

Yep. The heartening thing is that since Howe’s been here we’ve had periods, right at the start, the start of last season, around the cup final, where for various reasons, things have gone off track, but he’s found a solution.

 

You’d feel he will again.

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We’re going through a period of finding form as well, I’m heartened by Brentford and Milan games. Almost going back to just working and waiting for the attacking form to return. 

 

Back to back clean sheets will be a massive confidence boost to a defence looking like it'd always find a way to let one in.

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29 minutes ago, NE27 said:

even you can admit we look a bit iffy atm. 

Absolutely frustrated by some of the play. Lack of ball retention and fluidity. But, apart from the fact football is frustrating if you're not in the ascendency, I can see that Howe's trying to change the way we play. Perhaps he thinks we can't rely on 13 players to run half marathons every game this season. There's an adjustment going on and I can see that. I'll give it time and plenty of it. 

However "shit" were playing we still should've beaten Liverpool, for eg. 

 

18 minutes ago, jack j said:

Indeed

Just another case of people forgetting themselves. Fucking buzzing with the point me and most people I know were as well

Reading twitter you'd think we'd got hammered 6 nowt

This

5 minutes ago, SteV said:

It shouldn’t be underestimated how rare away wins in the CL are.

 

Only two last night, one that doesn’t really count (Porto at Shakhtar), and Leipzig at Young Boys, who might be the weakest team in the tournament.

 

Man City won one away game in last season’s CL.

And this. I'm old enough to remember European football. Loads of games like last night's. You take an away point anywhere. 

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4 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Absolutely frustrated by some of the play. Lack of ball retention and fluidity. But, apart from the fact football is frustrating if you're not in the ascendency, I can see that Howe's trying to change the way we play. Perhaps he thinks we can't rely on 13 players to run half marathons every game this season. There's an adjustment going on and I can see that. I'll give it time and plenty of it. 

However "shit" were playing we still should've beaten Liverpool, for eg. 

 

This

And this. I'm old enough to remember European football. Loads of games like last night's. You take an away point anywhere. 

I don't think this is by design. In fact, I think the players may be short physically.

 

In his post-match press conference, he said we wanted to press the GK and CBs as that is our style but we had mixed results. I missed the first 15 minutes but I didn't see that at all. So any change in approach was situational. Also by the end, several of the lads were dead on their feet it's not like we are conserving energy well. Perhaps the lads are just a little behind physically? Longstaff I understand because he's come back from injury and Isak isn't a pressing machine at all.

 

IMO we don't have a good non-aggressive press setup. Particularly in midfield and defence. One pass splits the whole thing again and again. We were fortunate that Milan played a similar system to us. So they only got space in between midfield and attack when an 8 got the other side of our 8 or someone broke lines with their movement. But they found lots of joy in wide areas anyway. Chukwueze had the better of Burn. Then Isak couldn't track Florenzi and Florenzi put in a couple of great crosses 1 led to a chance, the other nobody attacked. Then he had a few crossing opportunities he wasted and a few decent passing moves that led to nothing.

 

I liked the look of Chukwueze offensively. 20m euros. Pulisic was poor.

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I was impressed by your defense, trippier, schar and botman above all... the goalkeeper is not a goalkeeper of a team that has ambitions (yesterday he played well but I saw other matches in which he was horrible). Seeing Tonali not playing in the middle of the pitch but on the right surprised all in San Siro. Disappointed by the fans...4000 but completely silent, I know that in England the stadiums are not noisy but I had heard that you were among the hottest. See you in Newcastle..

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Just now, Curva Sud Milano said:

I was impressed by your defense, trippier, schar and botman above all... the goalkeeper is not a goalkeeper of a team that has ambitions (yesterday he played well but I saw other matches in which he was horrible). Seeing Tonali not playing in the middle of the pitch but on the right surprised all in San Siro. Disappointed by the fans...4000 but completely silent, I know that in England the stadiums are not noisy but I had heard that you were among the hottest. See you in Newcastle..

 

Nah, not having that either :lol:

 

Tonali mainly played left, surely? Can't remember seeing him on the right much.

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