TheBrownBottle Posted Saturday at 10:53 Share Posted Saturday at 10:53 3 hours ago, Unbelievable said: Because they understand the concept of growth? No, because we’re further behind now than we were in 2021. We’re not gaining ground on them, and we’re running out of runway in terms of future growth based on the rules in place at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted Saturday at 11:42 Share Posted Saturday at 11:42 48 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: No, because we’re further behind now than we were in 2021. We’re not gaining ground on them, and we’re running out of runway in terms of future growth based on the rules in place at the moment. Ad I said, they might be worried if they understand the concept of growth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted Sunday at 01:19 Share Posted Sunday at 01:19 So despite all that hard work these past few years, and the cartel clubs have managed to increase the gap? Feel our only hope is a Saudi cheat code. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted Monday at 08:39 Share Posted Monday at 08:39 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted Monday at 11:31 Share Posted Monday at 11:31 Interesting fact in there is our player sales profit for last season was the 17th most ever in the PL. A lot of the ones above can be tied to a single, massive sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted Monday at 12:12 Share Posted Monday at 12:12 Swiss Ramble claiming the club passed PSR by the skin of their teeth. Ooft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 12:23 Share Posted Monday at 12:23 11 minutes ago, JT24 said: Swiss Ramble claiming the club passed PSR by the skin of their teeth. Ooft. This is optimum btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Monday at 12:41 Share Posted Monday at 12:41 17 minutes ago, r0cafella said: This is optimum btw. What do you mean by that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Monday at 12:44 Share Posted Monday at 12:44 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: What do you mean by that ? We’ve played right to the allowable limits. The phasing of losses and profit wasn’t the best (!) but making a £105m loss over 3 years is bang on where we needed to be. also shows a canny strategy last June in just making enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Monday at 12:45 Share Posted Monday at 12:45 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: What do you mean by that ? What colo says, obviously a lot of work to be done in all areas but in terms of PSR we are pressing the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted Monday at 12:49 Share Posted Monday at 12:49 4 hours ago, Paully said: Was generally a good read. Would recommend subscribing even if it's just to read this one, think you can get a free read with a signup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted Monday at 13:01 Share Posted Monday at 13:01 any early forecasts of how much we can afford to spend in the summer based off that review? I won't settle for one farthing less than £120m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted Monday at 13:13 Share Posted Monday at 13:13 It depends on where we finish, if we qualify for Europe, which European competition, how much we care about fully meeting UEFA's rules or if we're open to being fined, which players get new contracts, new commercial deals, and who we're selling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted Monday at 13:15 Share Posted Monday at 13:15 2 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: It depends on where we finish, if we qualify for Europe, which European competition, how much we care about fully meeting UEFA's rules or if we're open to being fined, which players get new contracts, new commercial deals, and who we're selling. Apart from that though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted Monday at 14:00 Share Posted Monday at 14:00 43 minutes ago, SteV said: Apart from that though? Bank of England base rate, impact on the GBP/Euro exchange rate, Tariffs on players bought/sold to the MLS, whatever the PL make up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted Monday at 14:32 Share Posted Monday at 14:32 looked it up*. £60m before player sales, thanks. * asked chatgpt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted Monday at 14:36 Share Posted Monday at 14:36 2 minutes ago, thomas said: looked it up*. £60m before player sales, thanks. * asked chatgpt Here is the prediction from Swiss Ramble. I’m taking it that we can spend 300m on transfers. EASY. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Monday at 14:53 Share Posted Monday at 14:53 Am I right in thinking that that gives potentially up to a £240m budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted Monday at 14:56 Share Posted Monday at 14:56 19 minutes ago, JT24 said: Here is the prediction from Swiss Ramble. I’m taking it that we can spend 300m on transfers. EASY. Where he's got 2024/25 that presumably means the 2025/26 season ie. the one that starts 1st July this summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted Monday at 14:57 Share Posted Monday at 14:57 21 minutes ago, JT24 said: Here is the prediction from Swiss Ramble. I’m taking it that we can spend 300m on transfers. EASY. Keep in mind we made a ~£60m loss in 2023/24 if you take out the player sales. This was the same point being made all summer. As of now our default position entering each new accounting period is running a loss of tens of millions before we've spent anything. Despite losing the CL money though 2024/25 should be solid with Adidas, Stack, lack of incomings, and Miggy / Kelly. We should be in decent shape for the 2025/26 PL period. The UEFA numbers are much more questionable due to the adjustments, so it really depends on whether we're in Europe or not and what we're willing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted Monday at 14:58 Share Posted Monday at 14:58 1 minute ago, Keegans Export said: Where he's got 2024/25 that presumably means the 2025/26 season ie. the one that starts 1st July this summer? Yeah, he's a bit mixed up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted Monday at 14:59 Share Posted Monday at 14:59 Just now, Keegans Export said: Where he's got 2024/25 that presumably means the 2025/26 season ie. the one that starts 1st July this summer? No, I think he is correct. It means we can make a 80m loss for 24/25. So since we haven't done anything transfer-related, I guess we're in a good spot? For 25/26, we could have two seasons of PSR profit factoring in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted Monday at 15:01 Share Posted Monday at 15:01 2 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: We’ve played right to the allowable limits. The phasing of losses and profit wasn’t the best (!) but making a £105m loss over 3 years is bang on where we needed to be. also shows a canny strategy last June in just making enough Only just made enough because it meant we sold a highly rated youngster in Anderson for essentially £15m. That's not a canny strategy, that was a scramble where we were always going to come out 2nd best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted Monday at 15:05 Share Posted Monday at 15:05 5 minutes ago, timeEd32 said: Yeah, he's a bit mixed up there. I don't think so as the financial results aren't out yet for 24/25 (as we're still in it). So they're predicting what we could lose, on the PSR front, for 24/25. Suppose we could always make signings before the end of the financial period that would factor into 24/25. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted Monday at 15:06 Share Posted Monday at 15:06 2 minutes ago, JT24 said: No, I think he is correct. It means we can make a 80m loss for 24/25. So since we haven't done anything transfer-related, I guess we're in a good spot? For 25/26, we could have two seasons of PSR profit factoring in? It just doesn't make sense with him writing about summer plans. 2025/26 sees 2022/23 drop off as well and that's what starts to really help the three year calculations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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