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Tottenham Hotspur 1-2 Newcastle United (04/01/25)


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7 hours ago, Heron said:

Aye - I just watched this back too and it's like "WTF". Seems to me it's only Tottenham fans, players and managers whinging about the referees bias.

 

The Joelinton one (elbow) was literally just players jostling and not an actual elbow.

 

The Dan Burn one hits his sleeve (which I thought wasn't officially a handball now anyways) and despite his arm being in an unnatural position to start with he brings it in to avoid the handball. The ball is played off his arm as opposed to him moving the arm towards the ball. A freekick was probably the right and measured response - albeit I too would be annoyed if I were them.

 

The Joelinton handball is also ball to hand but this time Joelinton has his arm in a natural position which doesn't then go to the goalscorer, it goes to Bruno who then assists the goalscorer. By the rules (I believe) that isn't classed as a direct benefit to the goalscorer and as a result a handball now.

 

Gordon collides with Kulusevski and has his nose burst, and it's an "accidental collision" where the attacker has turned into the defender - I can accept that - as someone who has played defence regularly. I too would feel it was harsh if given. However, for Botman to then be booked and a free kick given for the exact same thing (albeit with lesser contact) is double standards as you rightly say.

 

If memory serves me right it's 30seconds for a goal, there were 3 first half so that's 1min 30secs. 4 were added. So let's just say it isn't and it is 1min per goal instead - 4mins might be about right when considering other instances that half. The second half though - no goals scored. If a substitution is 30seconds that'd be 4mins. Therefore, I presume that it's now a minute per substitution - but if that is the case you hardly ever, ever see that amount given in other games. Nearly 13 minutes were played. So all this talk of time wasting is absolutely farcical.

 

Spurs lashed the ball across goal twice in one instance in the second half and aside from that did insufficient to score. Newcastle wasted two or three similar chances and scored from the other chances they did create. Goals win games. We scored more. Dummy back in Tottenham.

 

 

 

i thought it was deliberate and deserved a yellow.

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This pair of eyebrows seems fairly level head, but I'm proper baffled by the whole "the rules are unfair" shite. Do these people seriously want accidental - hands by your side - handballs to be penalised? The fact they are for the goalscorer is stupid enough. If Bergvall had picked a better pass instead of pinging it off Joelinton we wouldn't have scored.

 

Reminds me of the penalty that got overturned against Arsenal, where it deflected off a knee and onto the hand, although most of us accepted that although it was annoying, the rules were fair enough. Why the fuck would it have been a pen?

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20 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Heard him on Talksport earlier. He was still going on about that handball and managed to get himself all worked up again :lol: All because he was asked about the VAR nonsense in the cup semi finals. 

Jeez I forgot about the potential spectacle of Craig Pawson explaining his decisions to the stadium tonight 

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5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

 

 

This pair of eyebrows seems fairly level head, but I'm proper baffled by the whole "the rules are unfair" shite. Do these people seriously want accidental - hands by your side - handballs to be penalised? The fact they are for the goalscorer is stupid enough. If Bergvall had picked a better pass instead of pinging it off Joelinton we wouldn't have scored.

 

Reminds me of the penalty that got overturned against Arsenal, where it deflected off a knee and onto the hand, although most of us accepted that although it was annoying, the rules were fair enough. Why the fuck would it have been a pen?

 

Remembering that wrong mate, it never touched his hand. Ball hit him on the thigh and nowt else.

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49 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

 

 

This pair of eyebrows seems fairly level head, but I'm proper baffled by the whole "the rules are unfair" shite. Do these people seriously want accidental - hands by your side - handballs to be penalised? The fact they are for the goalscorer is stupid enough. If Bergvall had picked a better pass instead of pinging it off Joelinton we wouldn't have scored.

 

Reminds me of the penalty that got overturned against Arsenal, where it deflected off a knee and onto the hand, although most of us accepted that although it was annoying, the rules were fair enough. Why the fuck would it have been a pen?


Not sure if it is still the case. As I hardly watch it any more. But La Liga used to almost always be anything that hit your hand/arm was handball, regardless of intent and usually resulted in a yellow :lol: 

 

Absolutely bonkers. The reason they changed this. Was that VAR was ruling out goals for accidental handball 5-10-15 seconds before a goal. Just proper madness to want that implemented. 

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