Displayname Posted Sunday at 08:57 Share Posted Sunday at 08:57 Jesus Christ. I remember Spurs getting nearly every decision their way one or two seasons ago. Especially that offside against Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted Sunday at 08:58 Share Posted Sunday at 08:58 44 minutes ago, David Edgar said: Infuriating to see on MotD, Gordon get bodychecked in the box and it be deemed not to be a foul and then in the very next clip Maddison runs into Botman and gets a freekick. Yes, shocking double standards. Also Botman was booked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted Sunday at 09:12 Share Posted Sunday at 09:12 (edited) I like those that admit it was legit per the rules but bemoaning the fact that the rules are ridiculous. Funny we've never seen them criticise it as much before this weekend... Edited Sunday at 09:12 by Hhtoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Sunday at 09:13 Share Posted Sunday at 09:13 13 minutes ago, Rod said: Yes, shocking double standards. Also Botman was booked. What you reckon of yesterday then Rod? The way Ange has gone on like they played us off the park and spurned chances galore was ridiculous. We should have had the game won by half-time. Tino MOTM for me. Enjoy the rest of your weekend and take it easy in that snow don’t do anything silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Sunday at 09:14 Share Posted Sunday at 09:14 (edited) 1 hour ago, David Edgar said: Infuriating to see on MotD, Gordon get bodychecked in the box and it be deemed not to be a foul and then in the very next clip Maddison runs into Botman and gets a freekick. Aye - I just watched this back too and it's like "WTF". Seems to me it's only Tottenham fans, players and managers whinging about the referees bias. The Joelinton one (elbow) was literally just players jostling and not an actual elbow. The Dan Burn one hits his sleeve (which I thought wasn't officially a handball now anyways) and despite his arm being in an unnatural position to start with he brings it in to avoid the handball. The ball is played off his arm as opposed to him moving the arm towards the ball. A freekick was probably the right and measured response - albeit I too would be annoyed if I were them. The Joelinton handball is also ball to hand but this time Joelinton has his arm in a natural position which doesn't then go to the goalscorer, it goes to Bruno who then assists the goalscorer. By the rules (I believe) that isn't classed as a direct benefit to the goalscorer and as a result a handball now. Gordon collides with Kulusevski and has his nose burst, and it's an "accidental collision" where the attacker has turned into the defender - I can accept that - as someone who has played defence regularly. I too would feel it was harsh if given. However, for Botman to then be booked and a free kick given for the exact same thing (albeit with lesser contact) is double standards as you rightly say. If memory serves me right it's 30seconds for a goal, there were 3 first half so that's 1min 30secs. 4 were added. So let's just say it isn't and it is 1min per goal instead - 4mins might be about right when considering other instances that half. The second half though - no goals scored. If a substitution is 30seconds that'd be 4mins. Therefore, I presume that it's now a minute per substitution - but if that is the case you hardly ever, ever see that amount given in other games. Nearly 13 minutes were played. So all this talk of time wasting is absolutely farcical. Spurs lashed the ball across goal twice in one instance in the second half and aside from that did insufficient to score. Newcastle wasted two or three similar chances and scored from the other chances they did create. Goals win games. We scored more. Dummy back in Tottenham. Edited Sunday at 09:20 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted Sunday at 09:28 Share Posted Sunday at 09:28 Amen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted Sunday at 09:31 Share Posted Sunday at 09:31 I love McCoist and don’t think there was anyone really stood out, but I cannot get my head round him giving Spurs’ keeper man of the match. Didn’t do anything wrong, but didn’t do anything a professional goalkeeper wouldn’t have done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Sunday at 09:33 Share Posted Sunday at 09:33 (edited) 1 minute ago, Danh1 said: I love McCoist and don’t think there was anyone really stood out, but I cannot get my head round him giving Spurs’ keeper man of the match. Didn’t do anything wrong, but didn’t do anything a professional goalkeeper wouldn’t have done. I did think he was their best player tbf. Probably Tino for us I reckon. Edited Sunday at 09:34 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Sunday at 09:34 Share Posted Sunday at 09:34 (edited) For all their possession in the 2nd half, Spurs didn’t create anything until the final 10 minutes. Before that I think the best they had was a shot from distance that may have been going wide, but Dubs got to it in anyway. If it wasn’t for those chances at the end, then you would probably have to say it was a perfectly executed plan of game management from us. Edited Sunday at 09:49 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted Sunday at 09:35 Share Posted Sunday at 09:35 1 minute ago, Heron said: I did think he was their best player tbf. Probably Tino for us I reckon. I just didn’t think he made any top saves. Did claim a couple in the first half, mind. Just feel that giving a keeper MOTM suggests they won you the game. Criticise him a lot but Dubravka was solid yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Sunday at 09:39 Share Posted Sunday at 09:39 2 minutes ago, Danh1 said: I just didn’t think he made any top saves. Did claim a couple in the first half, mind. Just feel that giving a keeper MOTM suggests they won you the game. Criticise him a lot but Dubravka was solid yesterday. Dubravka has been solid for us since coming in, I'd even go as far as saying he shouldn't be dropped when Pope returns, based on current form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted Sunday at 09:40 Share Posted Sunday at 09:40 1 minute ago, Heron said: Dubravka has been solid for us since coming in, I'd even go as far as saying he shouldn't be dropped when Pope returns, based on current form. Can’t believe I’m saying this, but I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted Sunday at 09:40 Share Posted Sunday at 09:40 (edited) The narrative should have been Newcastle were clinical in first half spurs got goal but not much else, second half spurs played better but ultimately blunt up top. Instead we get all this nonsense. Imagine if big ange had come out and said "we need to be better at putting away our chances, we can't be shipping soft goals and not converting in that second half when we played how i want us to" would that really have hurt so bad? Edited Sunday at 09:42 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted Sunday at 09:42 Share Posted Sunday at 09:42 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Danh1 said: Can’t believe I’m saying this, but I agree. I'm really not sure why dubs was written off by so many in here, no he's not greatest keeper but he's rarely been terrible for us, steady Eddie of a keeper. Edited Sunday at 09:43 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted Sunday at 09:42 Share Posted Sunday at 09:42 2 minutes ago, Heron said: Dubravka has been solid for us since coming in, I'd even go as far as saying he shouldn't be dropped when Pope returns, based on current form. His distribution has genuinely been top drawer since coming back in. Better than Pope's this season, at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted Sunday at 09:44 Share Posted Sunday at 09:44 Just now, Tiresias said: I'm really not sure why dubs was written off by so many in here, no he's not greatest keeper but he's rarely been terrible for us, steady Eddie if a keeper. I thought in his stint last season he was absolutely shocking. He conceded so many soft goals and it went some way to costing us a European place. Pope has been that this season. Combined with his rashness with the ball at his feet, Dubravka has been far better than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted Sunday at 09:45 Share Posted Sunday at 09:45 3 minutes ago, Danh1 said: I just didn’t think he made any top saves. Did claim a couple in the first half, mind. Just feel that giving a keeper MOTM suggests they won you the game. Criticise him a lot but Dubravka was solid yesterday. I thought it was a daft decision. He did it because of the story not the game. The fact he’d not had a game for a stupid amount of time then came on and did ok. I don’t agree with him on this as it is the man of the MATCH but he’s so much better than the rest of the co commenters I’m not too bothered. Personally I’m still fuming due to Saint and Greavsie giving the man of the match to the entire Swindon team when we drew with them 0-0 in our Keegan promotion year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted Sunday at 09:45 Share Posted Sunday at 09:45 (edited) Yeah I also think I prefer Dubs with his ball playing abilities, just adds another dimension to our game. Getting a new GK probably should take priority this summer. Will always love Pope though, major part of us getting that 4th place, but its time to move on. Edited Sunday at 09:48 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mush Posted Sunday at 09:54 Share Posted Sunday at 09:54 I think when we've got both Botman and Schar at CB, it mitigates Pope's weakness with his feet somewhat, so think his better shot-stopping gives him the edge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted Sunday at 09:56 Share Posted Sunday at 09:56 Pope comes straight back in when fit. I don't think Howe will spend a second mulling that over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted Sunday at 09:56 Share Posted Sunday at 09:56 9 minutes ago, Danh1 said: I thought in his stint last season he was absolutely shocking. He conceded so many soft goals and it went some way to costing us a European place. Pope has been that this season. Combined with his rashness with the ball at his feet, Dubravka has been far better than him. Hmmm maybe. I do find i am more lenient on keepers than some. My partner always thinks its keepers fault it seems and i'm not sure. I often think the keepers people rave at are often given an easy time by a defence that doesnt let people shoot very easily so always making spectacular looking saves from long shots that actually they will save those 9 times out of 10 regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted Sunday at 10:00 Share Posted Sunday at 10:00 1 hour ago, MagMal said: They are still moaning on that fighting cock forum, one of them thinks there is a referee conspiracy against them driven by the Premier league in retaliation for dan levey wanting to join that super league thing, they have proper gone full mental. Lots of people on this forum think there is a long-standing conspiracy against Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Sunday at 10:01 Share Posted Sunday at 10:01 Just now, Theregulars said: Lots of people on this forum think there is a long-standing conspiracy against Newcastle. There's more to suggest that tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Sunday at 10:01 Share Posted Sunday at 10:01 9 hours ago, Disco said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted Sunday at 10:11 Share Posted Sunday at 10:11 4 hours ago, Menace said: It's funny how he went from being a breath of fresh air, to a moaning cunt all relatively quickly. He was never a breath of fresh air if you watched up here in Scotland. It was the same shit if anything went bad for Celtic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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