Alberto2005 Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Did you not watch him the 18 months before he came to us? That was why people didn't want him, he was just about the worse defender in the premiership the season before he joined us. He was living on the hype of a good first half of the 2000-01 season and the fact that Ipswich did incredibly well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Big Dunc, could have been a great, then Luque, Boumsong and Viana, although the latter can't be faulted for his failures, he had a good first season and was played as a winger in his second. Viana played the first season always on the left. That was the season Robert had 2-3 injuries and Viana started about 20 games all on the left-wing, and was okay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Cort,Viana,Luque,Boumsong £33m spend on them All came with great expectations but all of them were big dissapointments When i think that we spend £33m for 4 players :idiot2: I still cant understand why SBR signed Viana for almost £9m when at that time we had Robert who was playing great for us? Because Viana's a centre midfielder and at the time was rated as one of the hottest prospects of continental football. He won European Young Player of the Year ,the season before he joined us and we beat alot of big clubs to his siganture I seem to remember, such as Juventus at the time. I think his game is suited to the slow pace of Italian football rather than Spanish and especially the EPL. And as already mentioned, he was never supposed to compete with Robert for the left wing spot. He was not a left winger in the slightest even though we shunted him out there. His best position was in the hole behind the striker(s) with a proper defensive midfieler doing all the donkey work (which we didnt have) ......and most EPL teams including ours don't play with that formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KeithKettleborough Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 In the recent squad, and based on his first time with us, it must be Bernard. Havent seen him so hes been a disappointment to say the least. Going back a bit I think Dave Beasant, cup winning penalty saver and at the same time, John Robertson who scored loads in Scotland but none for us. Marcelino didnt disappoint me as I knew nothing of him before hand. Also heard that there were things going on behind the scenes which meant he was stopped for playing for us even when he was fit and wanted to. Never quite understood it all even if it was true but knowing Freddy, it was probably money related. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Boumsong Luque And Duff is a possibility Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Luque Or a bit more contraversial..owen?? Wise up. Peter Ramage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Luque Or a bit more contraversial..owen?? or maybe Shearer :idiot2: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mishka17 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Sibierski what? from 0 to hero in that case in my opinion-maybe he's slow etc. but you must say that he scored very important goals for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Tino Asprilla. Take away Barcelona and Metz and he didnt exactly cover himself in glory. Some of his latter performances were pretty disgraceful in lack of effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Tino Asprilla. Take away Barcelona and Metz and he didnt exactly cover himself in glory. Some of his latter performances were pretty disgraceful in lack of effort. at least he scored goals and had flair and spirit...something a certain mr. alberto lacks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mishka17 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 and what about andy o'brien? is he still playing for portsmouth? he and titus together were... "amazing" (with exceptions) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Car Bramble Boumsong Marcelinho Acuna Butt Bassedas Viana Cort Luque Injured: Dyer (plays well sometimes, when not injured). Duff and Owen are not hits yet but certainly have the talent, unlucky with injuries so too early to judge yet really. Still disapointed though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Morph Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Steven Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Cort,Viana,Luque,Boumsong £33m spend on them All came with great expectations but all of them were big dissapointments When i think that we spend £33m for 4 players :idiot2: I still cant understand why SBR signed Viana for almost £9m when at that time we had Robert who was playing great for us? Because Viana's a centre midfielder and at the time was rated as one of the hottest prospects of continental football. He won European Young Player of the Year ,the season before he joined us and we beat alot of big clubs to his siganture I seem to remember, such as Juventus at the time. I think his game is suited to the slow pace of Italian football rather than Spanish and especially the EPL. And as already mentioned, he was never supposed to compete with Robert for the left wing spot. He was not a left winger in the slightest even though we shunted him out there. His best position was in the hole behind the striker(s) with a proper defensive midfieler doing all the donkey work (which we didnt have) ......and most EPL teams including ours don't play with that formation The main thing that fucks me off about the Viana transfer is that in the games we would've watched him (Portugal u21's and Sporting) Ronaldo would've been playing as well and for the same fee (ish) we could've had him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 John Robertson Scored by the bucketload for Hearts but just looked bloated and shite for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Oguchi Onyewu. Has done absolutely nothing during his time at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Oguchi Onyewu. Has done absolutely nothing during his time at the club. ahh, but his nickname does not disappoint! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicsfingeredmong Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Pricetag & wages weighed up against the player's actual ability & production. Scott Parker. Building the team's engine room around a player with average attributes, and a player with little in the locker in the way of 'defensive smarts' - as compared to Speed ie. not being drawn to the ball like a hawk & knowing when to hold his position, tracking his opposing counterpart/s runs into the danger area in & around the box, will go down as Roeder's biggest mistake of the season and hopefully not beyond. As disappointing a captain i've seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sicsfingeredmong Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Car Bramble Boumsong Marcelinho Acuna Butt Bassedas Viana Cort Luque Injured: Dyer (plays well sometimes, when not injured). Duff and Owen are not hits yet but certainly have the talent, unlucky with injuries so too early to judge yet really. Still disapointed though. Good little player, better player than our current captain in all honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Car Bramble Boumsong Marcelinho Acuna Butt Bassedas Viana Cort Luque Injured: Dyer (plays well sometimes, when not injured). Duff and Owen are not hits yet but certainly have the talent, unlucky with injuries so too early to judge yet really. Still disapointed though. Good little player, better player than our current captain in all honesty. agreed, underrated player, never let us down ,didn't complain when left out the side and chipped in with some goals. An excellent squad player and a bargain for 700k IMO Should not be on that list wor Clarence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Easily Kluivert for me. A lot of the players listed played below their potential- but Kluivert was clearly still capable of doing the business. However he couldn't be arsed, cleared out every Greggs in town and lost his place. A total waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Easily Kluivert for me. A lot of the players listed played below their potential- but Kluivert was clearly still capable of doing the business. However he couldn't be arsed, cleared out every Greggs in town and lost his place. A total waste. his goal record was very good though and his partnership with Bellamy was good. To be controversial he shouldn't have been automatically dropped when Shearer came back from the 1 or 2 injuries he had as he was playing well early on. Yes, a couple pies too many perhaps though:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 stefan guivarch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 stefan guivarch hardly given a chance though, 1 goal in 4 games and he was sub in most of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Bear with me here: Alan Shearer. One of the top five players in the world when he arrived here and was injured and only about 75% of the player he was after that. I feel gutted and cheated we only saw one season of him at the Toon when he was at the peak of his powers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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