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european competitions being seeded and in leagues (purely for financial reasons). get back to 2 legged knock outs and if barce get man utd in the first round then so be it.

 

Hear, hear. The group stages are becoming ridiculously boring and predictable.

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Nah strongly disagree. Best compromise for not having some Euro Super League. Fine the way it is.

the clubs don't want a euro super league, they know from current attendances and viewing figures that it wouldn't be viable on the financial scale it is now.
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If they're already doing the group stages just for financial reasons then a Euro League would just take its place creating a bigger divide.

 

In any case, from a sporting perspective it's better now. Qualifying for the elite European competition only to be knocked out after two games would make it hardly worth qualifying for in the first palce. Especially for more average teams like ourselves!

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If they're already doing the group stages just for financial reasons then a Euro League would just take its place creating a bigger divide.

 

In any case, from a sporting perspective it's better now. Qualifying for the elite European competition only to be knocked out after two games would make it hardly worth qualifying for in the first palce.

right now the group stages keep involvement for a longer time. imagine PSG v valencia half way through an 18 team league. no interest and they know it. thats why we have the current format instead of the big league.

 

regarding the second point, don't you remember the old knock out euro competitions ?

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regarding the second point, don't you remember the old knock out euro competitions ?

 

What do you mean by that? Only the champions qualifying? Don't see the need to be that exclusive in the current climate.

 

I think the current format is in place for a reason, it's mutually beneficial for everyone. Of course money will be one of the driving factors.

 

Agree the seeding could toned down a little, though.

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regarding the second point, don't you remember the old knock out euro competitions ?

 

What do you mean by that? Only the champions qualifying? Don't see the need to be that exclusive in the current climate.

 

I think the current format is in place for a reason, it's mutually beneficial for everyone. Of course money will be one of the driving factors.

 

Agree the seeding could toned down a little, though.

i agree about the "only cahampions qualifying " bit, but outside of that, the knock out system is more exciting for the fan and stops the clubs raking in money for dead games. the current format is designed to help the rich get richer and is dull for the fan.
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european competitions being seeded and in leagues (purely for financial reasons). get back to 2 legged knock outs and if barce get man utd in the first round then so be it.

 

A knockout competition where anyone can get anyone would be so much better.

 

:thup:

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Certainly a tricky balance and there isn't one correct solution. Just feel the current format keeps the most people happy.

honestly can't think of any fans i know that prefer the current system and all see it purely as a means for the big clubs to maintain their superiority.
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The current format is really unfair on smaller teams.

 

Look at Plzen, they won their domestic league last year only to be seeded 4th and be drawn in a group with Barcelona and AC Milan.  What's the actual point?

 

There is no entertainment value in these group stages, just a case of the big teams going through the motions.  I know it's a cliche, but in a 2 legged knockout tie anyone can beat anyone.  It would be so much fairer for everyone involved and would make the tournament so much more interesting.

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The current format is really unfair on smaller teams.

 

Look at Plzen, they won their domestic league last year only to be seeded 4th and be drawn in a group with Barcelona and AC Milan.  What's the actual point?

 

There is no entertainment value in these group stages, just a case of the big teams going through the motions.  I know it's a cliche, but in a 2 legged knockout tie anyone can beat anyone.  It would be so much fairer for everyone involved and would make the tournament so much more interesting.

 

At least that group is actual a group of Champions unlike say Bayern Munich, Napoli, Manchester City & Villarreal.

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Look at Plzen, they won their domestic league last year only to be seeded 4th and be drawn in a group with Barcelona and AC Milan.  What's the actual point?

 

The point is to play teams like Barca or Milan.

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Look at Plzen, they won their domestic league last year only to be seeded 4th and be drawn in a group with Barcelona and AC Milan.  What's the actual point?

 

The point is to play teams like Barca or Milan.

....when theres something at stake.
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Just done a little 'mock' draw of the 32 teams , totally random , without any seeds:

 

BATE Borisov v Borussia Dortmund

Barcelona v Napoli

Man City v Dinamo Zagreb

AC Milan v FC Basel

Ajax v Olympiakos

Chelsea v Bayern Munich

SC Otelul Galati v Lille

Bayer Leverkusen v Trabzonspor

Inter Milan v CSKA Moscow

Man Utd v Real Madrid

Villarreal v Lyon

Valencia v Shakhtar Donetsk

Zenit St Petersburg v Plzen

FC Porto v Arsenal

Benfica v Marseille

APOEL v Genk

 

Hypothetically , it would throw up some quality ties with lots at stake, it would be a hell of a lot better.

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