St James' Park

[Groundhog63]

Just now, Jackie Broon said:

 

The town moor is absolutely unique. How may other major cities have an expanse of agricultural land with grazing cattle in the heart of the city?

 

The cost of turning 400 hectares of land parkland and managing it would be astronomical, and it would be likely to become a massive headache in terms of rough sleeping and crime without the natural visual surveillance the open nature of it allows.

Need to knock down the city as well  then if it's stopping rough sleepers and crime ya after ?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

The idea you could have massive open fields of public land that you can walk about and see it as shit is just mind boggling

 

Also taking about London, the likes of Hyde Park and Hampstead Heath are only really landscaped over quite a small part. 

 

 

Edited March 11 by AyeDubbleYoo

[TBG]

Class if we had to keep the cows, and they were allowed to roam the concourses.

[Rod]

59 minutes ago, TBG said:

Class if we had to keep the cows, and they were allowed to roam the concourses.

I got a flashback of "Blazing Saddles" reading that post.

[Chris_R]

1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

The town moor is absolutely unique. How many other major cities have an expanse of agricultural land with grazing cattle in the heart of the city?

 

The cost of turning 400 hectares of land into parkland and managing it would be astronomical, and it would be likely to become a massive headache in terms of rough sleeping and crime without the natural visual surveillance the open nature of it allows.

 

 

 

 

It may be unique but that's no reason to keep it. There's good reasons why no other city has "an expanse of agricultural land with grazing cattle in the heart of the city". 

[RS]

10 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

It may be unique but that's no reason to keep it. There's good reasons why no other city has "an expanse of agricultural land with grazing cattle in the heart of the city". 

Why?

[Kimbo]

I’ve never really understood the town moor or been tempted to go to it. It’s just a field. Still better than Leazes park though, which is a pretty horrible place.

[Chris_R]

14 minutes ago, RS said:

Why?

 

Because aside from the Hoppings, it's of neither use nor interest to almost anyone at all. 

 

It's one thing to say "isn't it nice we have it?", but how often do you or indeed anyone actually go there? And to do what? 

 

For almost all of us, it just exists. It could be infinitely better used. Could put a football stadium on it for starters. 

[El Prontonise]

if you're going to open up the town moor for development, housing should be the priority.

[Chris_R]

17 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

if you're going to open up the town moor for development, housing should be the priority.

Agree. There's a massive housing shortage in this country and all those already with houses and a 'NIMBY' attitude are preventing the next generation getting on the ladder they've gleefully pulled up behind themselves. But that's probably not for this thread! 

[Kanji]

move the park, sod by sod. 

[Orphanage]

Sweet as 

[Monters]

1 hour ago, Chris_R said:

 

Because aside from the Hoppings, it's of neither use nor interest to almost anyone at all. 

 

It's one thing to say "isn't it nice we have it?", but how often do you or indeed anyone actually go there? And to do what? 

 

For almost all of us, it just exists. It could be infinitely better used. Could put a football stadium on it for starters. 

Before moving away from the city I taught my kids to ride their bikes there, exercised the dog and ran there most days myself... Obviously all things I could do in a Central Park type development but not in a housing estate etc.  Green space is important to the city or is to me and yes I am old!

[TomYam]

2 hours ago, Chris_R said:

 

It may be unique but that's no reason to keep it. There's good reasons why no other city has "an expanse of agricultural land with grazing cattle in the heart of the city". 

Uniqueness is the very best reason for keeping it. It makes Newcastle quite distinct from other places. What next - do you want the local accent Thames Valleyfied or Grey Street straightened or The historic Guildhall turned into an American restaurant chain?

[Charlies]

Used to use the moor for mushroom picking when younger, remember one rather well to do woman approaching us at ~8am with her whippet to inform us “those bastard students have been already, you’ll be lucky to find any”  

[OpenC]

Build a new state of the art hospital on Castle Leazes, which will be an easier sell to the public than a football stadium, then level the RVI and put the Saudidome there

 

New hospital will have to be taller on average to fit in the space and will no doubt block light to Leazes Terrace alas

[RS]

3 hours ago, Chris_R said:

 

Because aside from the Hoppings, it's of neither use nor interest to almost anyone at all. 

 

It's one thing to say "isn't it nice we have it?", but how often do you or indeed anyone actually go there? And to do what? 

 

For almost all of us, it just exists. It could be infinitely better used. Could put a football stadium on it for starters. 

Sometimes Chris, you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.  What’s next for the moor?  A pink hotel, a boutique, and a swingin' hot spot?

[PauloGeordio]

1 hour ago, Charlies said:

Used to use the moor for mushroom picking when younger, remember one rather well to do woman approaching us at ~8am with her whippet to inform us “those bastard students have been already, you’ll be lucky to find any”  

??

[Orphanage]

1 hour ago, OpenC said:

Build a new state of the art hospital on Castle Leazes, which will be an easier sell to the public than a football stadium, then level the RVI and put the Saudidome there

 

New hospital will have to be taller on average to fit in the space and will no doubt block light to Leazes Terrace alas

RVI's on a slope

[OpenC]

top of the hill though, easier to manage

[Izakaya]

4 hours ago, Chris_R said:

 

It may be unique but that's no reason to keep it. There's good reasons why no other city has "an expanse of agricultural land with grazing cattle in the heart of the city". 

 

It is really like. Newcastle as absolutely fuck all green space. 

[El Prontonise]

Can we just rebuild the town moor over the stadium?  Make it a living garden.

[Miggys First Goal]

Let’s just knock down the entire city centre and start again from scratch. Make the new stadium the centrepiece. 

[Orphanage]

Wont even be an upgrade on SJP after tonights performance .

[NG32]

We could be really ambitious and build a new stadium over the train lines at central station, like they've done in Chicago and New York.