St James' Park

[HaydnNUFC]

17 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Interesting that my cousin had a glass and he still said it was shite.

 

I'd rather support the other independent pubs etc in town.

 

Aye, was a plastic cup. Really sturdy like, if you threw it at someone's head it'd have done some damage.  The pint itself was just okay. But I reckon I'll only ever go in that Stack early afternoon-ish on a non matchday or through the week for some bait during or after graft if its open. Would likewise much rather stay at my usual matchday spots.

 

I never really liked the old Stack at the bottom of Northumberland Street tbph. Enormous queues to get in especially on a Saturday, pricey bait, overpriced pints in plastic and was seemingly full of Geordie Shore wannabes to the point where it felt like a scrap could kick off at any minute. Nicht für mich.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2024 by HaydnNUFC

[Superior Acuña]

2 hours ago, Rich said:

Hope that’s Hey Jude binned off for good pre-game and Back In Black is here to stay.

 

Enjoyed that. Pet Shop Boys, The Animals at half time too - enjoyed the geordie music.

[Elliottman]

Fag packet maths.

 

They sold 38,000 pints first weekend?

 

Profit margins average is 40%. £6.50 a pint, £2.60 profit = £98,800

 

Thats on pints alone, cocktails and food to be factored in. No idea what the arrangements are in terms of rent, staffing costs for 120 people too. You’d like to think £50k+ profit a weekend though. Total punt like. 

[Danh1]

1 minute ago, Superior Acuña said:

 

Enjoyed that. Pet Shop Boys, The Animals at half time too - enjoyed the geordie music.

Aye - cut down on the 12 minutes of birthday messages and played music. Decent. 

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

3 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

Fag packet maths.

 

They sold 38,000 pints first weekend?

 

Profit margins average is 40%. £6.50 a pint, £2.60 profit = £98,800

 

Thats on pints alone, cocktails and food to be factored in. No idea what the arrangements are in terms of rent, staffing costs for 120 people too. You’d like to think £50k+ profit a weekend though. Total punt like. 

I can almost guarantee you they will be paying between £1 & £1.40 per pint from brewery £1 for carling types of lager (no idea if they offer that) & circa £1.40 “premium” lagers / beers 

 

At £6.50 a pint they that’s proper money gross, I own pubs and this is on average what we pay from coors, LWC et for draught, should imagine NUFC’s volume would enable them to buy at much better prices that I do.

[Lush Vlad]

10 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Aye, was a plastic cup. Really sturdy like, if you threw it at someone's head it'd have done some damage.  The pint itself was just okay. But I reckon I'll only ever go in that Stack early afternoon-ish on a non matchday or through the week for some bait during or after graft if its open. Would likewise much rather stay at my usual matchday spots.

 

I never really liked the old Stack at the bottom of Northumberland Street tbph. Enormous queues to get in especially on a Saturday, pricey bait, overpriced pints in plastic and was seemingly full of Geordie Shore wannabes to the point where it felt like a scrap could kick off at any minute. Nicht für mich.

 

 

 

What was the one under the bridge Gateshead side? Always decent enough when I went there and never mad busy. Tokens for your beer and food was annoying, mind. 

[Elliottman]

10 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

I can almost guarantee you they will be paying between £1 & £1.40 per pint from brewery £1 for carling types of lager (no idea if they offer that) & circa £1.40 “premium” lagers / beers 

 

At £6.50 a pint they that’s proper money gross, I own pubs and this is on average what we pay from coors, LWC et for draught, should imagine NUFC’s volume would enable them to buy at much better prices that I do.

Even better then haha 

[Kanj]

Still need to play take on me by ah ha after a big win; Eddie deserves it. 

[HaydnNUFC]

21 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

What was the one under the bridge Gateshead side? Always decent enough when I went there and never mad busy. Tokens for your beer and food was annoying, mind. 

 

Nah, the one at the top of Pilgrim Street/bottom of Northumberland Street. Where the new HMRC(?) offices are being built.

 

I've been to the one on the Gateshead side, assuming you mean By The River Brewing Co. Don't mind it there.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2024 by HaydnNUFC

[Lush Vlad]

Aye. That’s the one. 

[El Prontonise]

39 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

Fag packet maths.

 

They sold 38,000 pints first weekend?

 

Profit margins average is 40%. £6.50 a pint, £2.60 profit = £98,800

 

Thats on pints alone, cocktails and food to be factored in. No idea what the arrangements are in terms of rent, staffing costs for 120 people too. You’d like to think £50k+ profit a weekend though. Total punt like. 

 

They don't make any profit on food for starters.

 

Those profit margins are ridiculous.  Vat, duty, staff costs.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2024 by El Prontonise

[El Prontonise]

42 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Aye, was a plastic cup. Really sturdy like, if you threw it at someone's head it'd have done some damage.  The pint itself was just okay. But I reckon I'll only ever go in that Stack early afternoon-ish on a non matchday or through the week for some bait during or after graft if its open. Would likewise much rather stay at my usual matchday spots.

 

I never really liked the old Stack at the bottom of Northumberland Street tbph. Enormous queues to get in especially on a Saturday, pricey bait, overpriced pints in plastic and was seemingly full of Geordie Shore wannabes to the point where it felt like a scrap could kick off at any minute. Nicht für mich.

 

 

 

 

Aye, I hated the old stack.  Terrible beer, service etc.

[Guest]

Are we talking about profit for FFP/PSR?

 

Does “profit” matter, don’t they just count revenue?

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

25 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

They don't make any profit on food for starters.

 

Those profit margins are ridiculous.  Vat, duty, staff costs.

 

 

 

Be amazed if they are not making a profit on food offering tbh 
 

Vat at 20% (for now anyway) not sure what you mean by duty tbh the price we pay is nett of vat and paid at retail, staff and running costs is the killer your right, heat, light & power will take a chunk of it but fairly sure the lads will of done their maths prior to putting it up and any revenue / profit minus corporation tax (25% on nett profit) is a welcome plus & one if the few things the PL can’t influence / stop either the fuckers 

 

 

Edited August 18, 2024 by RUHRLYASLEEVESUP

[Rich]

2 hours ago, Kanji said:

Still need to play take on me by ah ha after a big win; Eddie deserves it. 

It’s happened a couple of times, I think.

[huss9]

4 hours ago, Jack27 said:

Are we talking about profit for FFP/PSR?

 

Does “profit” matter, don’t they just count revenue?

 

[madras]

5 hours ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Aye, I hated the old stack.  Terrible beer, service etc.

You went at the wrong times. It was canny when it wasn't rammed.

[TheBrownBottle]

6 hours ago, Danh1 said:

My thoughts too. Shame it made an appearance at full time but step in the right direction. Just that piss poor Blaydon Races to bin off next. 
 

 

'The Blaydon Races' should be played pre-match and at HT for me - but that fucking awful one with the drums get to fuck.

 

My preference would be a proper brass band doing it  

[timeEd32]

7 hours ago, Keegans Export said:

Personally what I'm expecting soon is the result of the feasibility study rather than an actual detailed plan. So it'd be more like "The best option is to build a new stadium elsewhere so we're going to start the process of looking at options" rather than "Look at this fancy new stadium we're going to build on Leazes Park!"

I kind of agree, except announcing a plan to leave SJP without a location and renderings will go down like a lead balloon.

[Kanj]

8 hours ago, Rich said:

It’s happened a couple of times, I think.

oh

[TheBrownBottle]

4 hours ago, timeEd32 said:

I kind of agree, except announcing a plan to leave SJP without a location and renderings will go down like a lead balloon.

You're right.  Nothing stopping them having concept design drawings, specs and a detailed scope of works without planning permission - if they come out and say 'we're moving' with nothing else behind it then it isn't a good look on any level.  I'd expect a client to have a budget, reasonable site information, a program etc before the need to seek permissions for a project of this size and scale.  You don't buy the land and then determine what to do.

[pedro111]

Back in black was a great addition on Saturday like. Fair play to the gadgie.

[Cookie1892]

Couple of observations from my day out in and around Newcastle on Sunday...

 

Drove down past Leazes park/castle leazes towards the car park opposite the trent house. Leazes park looks shit quite simply, grass all overgrown, nothing and nobody in sight.

 

Went to stack for some lunch, full with barely a space to be had with groups of lads, lasses, families and families with pets like ourself, new kits everywhere on the young and old and club shop also full when i popped my head in so we must be making money hand over fist there

 

On to Exhibition Park and the difference to the leazes above is astonishing, lovely outdoor space, play area and cafe nice, some lovely areas to sit, walked round the lake and had a pint at Wylam Brewery after the wife had stupidly let the dog off the lead and it went headlong into the bastard thing after a duck. Wedding on later in the day it seemed and the place was full of students and families having a nice day out.

 

Skate park full of young'uns doing some amazing things on scooters, skateboards and BMX bikes as well who were very patient with my two little ones having a pedal round on the bikes we had brought.

 

To sum up, New stadium on leazes park/castle leazes is the best thing for it, Keep exhibition park as the lovely green space it is and if any cunt moans send them there for the day out

[TomYam]

51 minutes ago, Cookie1892 said:

 

 

On to Exhibition Park and the difference to the leazes above is astonishing, lovely outdoor space, play area and cafe nice, some lovely areas to sit, walked round the lake.....

 

There really is no 'astonishing' difference at all. Leazes Park has a play area, a nice cafe, a lake, and areas to sit in a lovely outdoor space - just like Exhibition Park!

 

Admittedly there are some antisocial characters that hang around the Barrack Road end on occasion, but sadly that's become normal in all but the most well to do areas.

 

It is a well-used and hugely important green lung for the city. I live nearby and enjoy regular visits to the park - as do hundreds/thousands of other folk including dog walkers, book readers, joggers, hospital patients, basketballers, tennis players, pingpongers, diners, picnickers, strollers, fishermen, etc. 

 

 

 

[Whitley mag]

4 minutes ago, TomYam said:

There really is no 'astonishing' difference at all. Leazes Park has a play area, a nice cafe, a lake, and areas to sit in a lovely outdoor space - just like Exhibition Park!

 

Admittedly there are some antisocial characters that hang around the Barrack Road end on occasion, but sadly that's become normal in all but the most well to do areas.

 

It is a well-used and hugely important green lung for the city. I live nearby and enjoy regular visits to the park - as do hundreds/thousands of other folk including dog walkers, book readers, joggers, hospital patients, basketballers, tennis players, pingpongers, diners, picnickers, strollers, fishermen, etc. 

 

 

 

How do you feel about a new stadium being built on it if the whole park was upgraded and current site used ?