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12 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Do one better by hurting yourself on it and suing him for negligence. Times that by a few 1000 and he's fucked. 

This. Anyone here a fee earner for a personal injury firm that can tell us all exactly where we need to make sure we fall and get a bruise?! Reckon we'll all be okay for witnesses an'all

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3 hours ago, El Prontonise said:

 

Would've got some nice tax breaks for the metro centre as well....

He definitely did - huge reno grants from central govt, too

 

Plus a lucky break generally - the original plan was for some shops and a play area for kids.  It was the big retailers + Marks and Sparks showing significant interest that created the Metro Centre.  Hall got lucky - it wasn’t because he was a ‘visionary’

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2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

He definitely did - huge reno grants from central govt, too

 

Plus a lucky break generally - the original plan was for some shops and a play area for kids.  It was the big retailers + Marks and Sparks showing significant interest that created the Metro Centre.  Hall got lucky - it wasn’t because he was a ‘visionary’

 

It was just a copy of yank malls.

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9 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

I know Reuben is a massive Tory donor and John Hall is also a Tory. But still….

 

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Still what?

 

If I can see past a murderous regime running our football club I sure as hell aren't going to get myself worked up about John Hall, who basically made the stadium what it is today, and a Conservative MP having a chat inside it.

 

As a point of note I think SJH deflected to Reform. Not 100% sure though.

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Why should it be mutually exclusive?

 

I mean I also have issues with the Saudi ownership. I thought it was wank that we had a friendly here for their national team and I think it would be a bit shit if we suddenly hosted the Crown Prince for some PR piece, for example. 
 

The same way I think this is shit. The club is being used as a vehicle to promote Robert Generic Jenrick’s leadership bid. All courtesy of Hall and allegedly without the club knowing.

 

You genuinely don’t see an issue with this? In the North East in a predominantly and historically labour area. A Tory MP with designs on being leader of the opposition swanning around SJP for a photo op and some PR. All whilst the club ‘didn’t know about it.’ Or are you just being facetious even if you don’t give a fuck personally. 
 

Oh and so fuck of he’s Reform now?! Just semantics anyway and two cheeks of the same arse. They’re the right arse cheek, if you like and just an extension and extreme wing of the Tory party. Hr seems pretty in bed with him here and happy to assist him with his con leadership bid. 
 

So I can’t have an issue with this because we have morally reprehensible owners?
 

I don’t think the club or ground should be used to promote politics or religion one way or the other and favouring certain sides. That’s all there is to it. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Still what?

 

If I can see past a murderous regime running our football club I sure as hell aren't going to get myself worked up about John Hall, who basically made the stadium what it is today, and a Conservative MP having a chat inside it.

 

As a point of note I think SJH deflected to Reform. Not 100% sure though.

Unless John hall ran amok hacking people's heads off and invented slavery then I think it's disrespectful for people to say all that shit about a bloke (who you rightly say) built the dream that we are all invested in. 

 

Is there anyway we can leave politics out of football, they are all cunts. Not the slightest bit interested in the video as it's not really football related and I don't vote anyway

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9 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said:

Unless John hall ran amok hacking people's heads off and invented slavery then I think it's disrespectful for people to say all that shit about a bloke (who you rightly say) built the dream that we are all invested in. 

 

Is there anyway we can leave politics out of football, they are all cunts. Not the slightest bit interested in the video as it's not really football related and I don't vote anyway

 

Saudi owners who actively are racist, homophobic or murder people who speak out etc are cunts and Hall is also a cunt.  He does not have the excuse of religion/ being in backwards country (based on standard non religious world views)

 

People who say keep politics out of football are normally the ones who hate being called out for being racist etc.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Slim said:

 

Saudi owners who actively are racist, homophobic or murder people who speak out etc are cunts and Hall is also a cunt.  He does not have the excuse of religion/ being in backwards country (based on standard non religious world views)

 

People who say keep politics out of football are normally the ones who hate being called out for being racist etc.

 

 

 

Sorry, so I am racist because I prefer taking about football than politics? 

Shall we change match of the day to a political debate for the greater good?

Or maybe we should abandon football until the world is in a perfect state of equality? 

 

Maybe the most racist are the people that can't help taking about race when it's not even in the subject matter. 

 

Relax, enjoy, be good. 

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2 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said:

Sorry, so I am racist because I prefer taking about football than politics? 

Shall we change match of the day to a political debate for the greater good?

Or maybe we should abandon football until the world is in a perfect state of equality? 

 

Maybe the most racist are the people that can't help taking about race when it's not even in the subject matter. 

 

Relax, enjoy, be good. 

Sorry, ‘keep politics out of football’ in defence of John Hall doesn’t work when the cunt is inside SJP to promote a Tory leadership candidate

 

It was Hall who pulled politics into football on this occasion

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Yeah 'keep politics out of football' usually just means 'let me ignore the politics that's everywhere in football' often with the added opinion that it's disrespectful for anyone in football or the public eye to not wear a poppy.

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7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Sorry, ‘keep politics out of football’ in defence of John Hall doesn’t work when the cunt is inside SJP to promote a Tory leadership candidate

 

It was Hall who pulled politics into football on this occasion

Yes but I decided not to watch it because it didn't interest me

 

You watched it because your interested in politics 

 

That's a choice isn't it? 

 

You sit in the stadium he built, and you reap the rewards of the platform he created by bringing in Keegan. Why if you are so ingrained in the political aspect? 

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7 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Yeah 'keep politics out of football' usually just means 'let me ignore the politics that's everywhere in football' often with the added opinion that it's disrespectful for anyone in football or the public eye to not wear a poppy.

Nah bollocks

Take the knee, don't take the knee, it's your personal preference. I don't give a shit. I don't care who you voted for, green party, Tories, monster raving looney party, couldn't give a monkey chuff aboot it. 

 

And don't make assumptions about people you don't know. That's hypocrisy 

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8 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said:

New stadium announcement tomorrow to soften the blow of the transferless window we’ve just endured?

The board can't even agree to signbnew players and offload deadwood, never mind building a new stadium. Let's see in January where we are in the table and which will be more important at that point, sign players or new stadium plans.

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45 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said:

Yes but I decided not to watch it because it didn't interest me

 

You watched it because your interested in politics 

 

That's a choice isn't it? 

 

You sit in the stadium he built, and you reap the rewards of the platform he created by bringing in Keegan. Why if you are so ingrained in the political aspect? 

I sat in the stadium he built - the one he gave to his and Shepherd’s construction firms for inflated prices, built by fans’ money, not his.  I watched the teams Keegan built, before Keegan was chased by Hall and Shepherd because of their greed in the club’s flotation.  I saw the money we’d poured in squandered by their bad decisions and sent as profit to his son sat in a Gibraltar tax haven.  And then I was still in that ground when Hall sold the club down the river to Mike Ashley.

 

Fuck Hall. 

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6 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I sat in the stadium he built - the one he gave to his and Shepherd’s construction firms for inflated prices, built by fans’ money, not his.  I watched the teams Keegan built, before Keegan was chased by Hall and Shepherd because of their greed in the club’s flotation.  I saw the money we’d poured in squandered by their bad decisions and sent as profit to his son sat in a Gibraltar tax haven.  And then I was still in that ground when Hall sold the club down the river to Mike Ashley.

 

Fuck Hall. 

Brilliant post. For his few million seed money, Hall and Shepherd bled the club consistently through dividends and nepotism. Shepherd putting logistics through his brother’s warehouse, construction contracts fed to their own portfolios and then what they made selling to the cockney tapeworm.

 

Eye-watering takeouts from these “saviours” and “fans”. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/feb/11/newcastle-united-freddy-shepherd-john-hall
 

But let’s all be happy the out of touch old Tory cunt uses our ground, not “his ground”, as a vehicle for another blue tied grifter espousing his nonsense politics.

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1 hour ago, Pancrate1892 said:

Nah bollocks

Take the knee, don't take the knee, it's your personal preference. I don't give a shit. I don't care who you voted for, green party, Tories, monster raving looney party, couldn't give a monkey chuff aboot it. 

 

And don't make assumptions about people you don't know. That's hypocrisy 

It's a generalisation admittedly, so apologies if you took the poppy part as being an assumption about you personally, but I still think the first part about wanting to ignore it holds up. Politics is already everywhere in football, it's unavoidable.

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49 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I sat in the stadium he built - the one he gave to his and Shepherd’s construction firms for inflated prices, built by fans’ money, not his.  I watched the teams Keegan built, before Keegan was chased by Hall and Shepherd because of their greed in the club’s flotation.  I saw the money we’d poured in squandered by their bad decisions and sent as profit to his son sat in a Gibraltar tax haven.  And then I was still in that ground when Hall sold the club down the river to Mike Ashley.

 

Fuck Hall. 

 

I stood in that crumbling ground in the 80s and early 90s. I got soaked when it rained whilst watching some of the shittest players I've ever seen play for NUFC. I looked on as every talent we developed was sold as soon as an offer came in. I despaired as we hurtled towards division 3 and total oblivion.

 

Hall came in. Nobody else would touch us with a barge pole lets not forget. He brought in Keegan. We then went on the have the best few years I've ever had as a Newcastle fan. 92/93 to 95/96 was just magical. The football was on another planet to what I'd ever seen before.  I watched as SJP, which was an embarrassment of a football ground, was transformed into one of the best arenas in Europe. We celebrated as we broke the World transfer record to bring Alan Shearer home. We played in the UEFA Cup, then we played in the Champions League, just a few years after nearly being in Division 3.

 

Great times. The best times I've had in my 40+ years as a supporter. Thanks to Sir John Hall. That's why I'll never say a bad word against him.

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9 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

I stood in that crumbling ground in the 80s and early 90s. I got soaked when it rained whilst watching some of the shittest players I've ever seen play for NUFC. I looked on as every talent we developed was sold as soon as an offer came in. I despaired as we hurtled towards division 3 and total oblivion.

 

Hall came in. Nobody else would touch us with a barge pole lets not forget. He brought in Keegan. We then went on the have the best few years I've ever had as a Newcastle fan. 92/93 to 95/96 was just magical. The football was on another planet to what I'd ever seen before.  I watched as SJP, which was an embarrassment of a football ground, was transformed into one of the best arenas in Europe. We celebrated as we broke the World transfer record to bring Alan Shearer home. We played in the UEFA Cup, then we played in the Champions League, just a few years after nearly being in Division 3.

 

Great times. The best times I've had in my 40+ years as a supporter. Thanks to Sir John Hall. That's why I'll never say a bad word against him.

I completely respect your position WM - I can also remember the years before 1992. 
 

I can’t agree re Hall, but know why plenty will share your view 

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5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I completely respect your position WM - I can also remember the years before 1992. 
 

I can’t agree re Hall, but know why plenty will share your view 

 

Honestly mate I know he walked away with a lot more than he put in, which upsets a lot of people, but he did that because he totally transformed the football club and we were unrecognisable from the club he took over to the club he left. 

 

Same reason I'll always love Amanda Staveley. She's made a tidy penny out of NUFC no doubt but again left the club in far better shape than she found it so for me she deserves every penny she's walked away with.

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35 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Feel like particularly after this piss poor window there needs some clarity on St James park moving forwards and the training ground situation. 

Seems like a strange move to put Brad Miller out to do press duties the other week if there wasn't something imminent? That's why I'm assuming there's an announcement of some kind very soon.

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4 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

It's a generalisation admittedly, so apologies if you took the poppy part as being an assumption about you personally, but I still think the first part about wanting to ignore it holds up. Politics is already everywhere in football, it's unavoidable.

Just don't watch the news and I wouldn't let it bother you so much. Life is to short 

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