Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 21 minutes ago, Sima said: After visiting Spurs’ ground for the NFL at the back end of last year, their facilities in the concourse is night and day to what we currently have. Having said that, the argument is there to not allow the chicken bites and chips posse any more comfort away from the terraces. Is that not in part what the new Stack is meant to sort though? I think the increase in matchday revenue will also be increased by the club taking control of the club shops again from this summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, Orphanage said: Higher prices ? More Corporate ? Some standing ? They deffo wouldnt make more £ by spunking £800 M - 1 B on a new bells n whistles stadium If you double our current matchday income it's at best £30m extra. Pick up a copy of our accounts and show me where pifs getting money back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, Orphanage said: Nah not gonna happen Fucking hell we have an even more negative Nostradamus here, how long until the rapture? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 3 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Nah not gonna happen You're entitled to your opinion, time will tell won't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, Fezzle said: If you double our current matchday income it's at best £30m extra. Pick up a copy of our accounts and show me where pifs getting money back It's a long term investment also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iklgizmo Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 What is actually classed as 'match day revenue'? Is Shearers/will the Stack be included? If so, could they look to have more places around the stadium? Even places season ticket holders could go pre match that isn't the cold, dirty, squished in concourse, but that they maybe have to pay a bit to get into? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Is that not in part what the new Stack is meant to sort though? I think the increase in matchday revenue will also be increased by the club taking control of the club shops again from this summer New stack is only a three year temporary plan, so obviously they have other future plans in their thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 6 minutes ago, Fezzle said: If you double our current matchday income it's at best £30m extra. Pick up a copy of our accounts and show me where pifs getting money back The value proposition of a football club is either growing it to a sky high valuation or selling it for said valuation. Profit and loss on a year basis really isn’t the goal (when it comes to football clubs). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, iklgizmo said: What is actually classed as 'match day revenue'? Is Shearers/will the Stack be included? If so, could they look to have more places around the stadium? Even places season ticket holders could go pre match that isn't the cold, dirty, squished in concourse, but that they maybe have to pay a bit to get into? Everything which brings in revenue on the day of the match. Ticket sales, merchandise etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ7 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I’d take a new stadium if only to improve the atmosphere and get people sitting with their friends and likeminded people. Though I’d still imagine folk complaining that they’d ‘always been 4th row back behind the goal’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Got to take into account also that the club don't own the land where the stadium is. That certainly will devalue the valuation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 17 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Higher prices ? More Corporate ? Some standing ? They deffo wouldnt make more £ by spunking £800 M - 1 B on a new bells n whistles stadium That stadium would increase income and predicted future income and therefore increase the value of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 9 minutes ago, JJ7 said: I’d take a new stadium if only to improve the atmosphere and get people sitting with their friends and likeminded people. Though I’d still imagine folk complaining that they’d ‘always been 4th row back behind the goal’. If we’re staying at SJP, then some difficult decisions probably have to be made about relocating folk in order to try and improve the atmosphere. If I take my own situation as an example, I sit just above the crossbar in the Leazes. Say they wanted to make that area a safe standing area*, I assume I’d have a decision to make about whether I wanted to stay there or move to a non-standing area elsewhere. If I did decide to move, I’d hope I’d get offered a similar type seat, rather than somewhere inferior. As otherwise you’ll end up with people opting to stay in safe standing areas who don’t really want to be there, but figure it’s better than the alternative. *don’t actually think it’s feasible to make my area safe standing as it would probably block the view of the folk at the front of the new Wings corporate area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 54 minutes ago, Fezzle said: If you double our current matchday income it's at best £30m extra. Pick up a copy of our accounts and show me where pifs getting money back They have significant investments in construction companies. Wouldn't surprise me if a Saudi company was contracted to do the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, loki679 said: They have significant investments in construction companies. Wouldn't surprise me if a Saudi company was contracted to do the job. There will be alsorts of things like that possible. The sponsorship will be a big one if they make a real standout statement stadium. It's ridiculous to pretend we can ever make that sort of money in the current location Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just wanna see renderings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Just now, Kanji said: Just wanna see renderings. A feasibility study wouldn’t necessarily have renderings, it may well just be a report saying that it could be done in such a way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I know. Stifler. I’m just saying all I want to see are renderings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 17 minutes ago, Kanji said: I know. Stifler. I’m just saying all I want to see are renderings. https://www.habitusliving.com/series/house-rendering-before-and-after-photos-australia/amp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I would also like a new stadium please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 65,000 is good but renovation/extension locks us to SJP in its current form for a long time. I’d be for it if the whole ground got high spec renovated, like the Bernabeu, not the Anfield approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 There's no space to do like what Real did to the Bernabeu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Slightly surprised if they've decided to stay at SJP and extend to 60k+. All I can assume is that there's nowhere else in the city centre vicinity to build a new one. For the owners point of view it's going to be a lot of hassle and a lot of money to build an extension where the vast majority of the new seats will be the cheapest in the ground, ie Gallowgate Level 7. Speaking as someone who absolutely hates sitting in Level 7 it wouldn't be a particularly inspiring move for me but I suppose if a new city centre stadium is completely off the table it's the next best thing, but with all this talk about how poor the atmosphere is, I can't see how bolting 8k seats onto the Gallowgate and tweaking the East Stand will make any positive difference in that respect though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 3 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Slightly surprised if they've decided to stay at SJP and extend to 60k+. All I can assume is that there's nowhere else in the city centre vicinity to build a new one. For the owners point of view it's going to be a lot of hassle and a lot of money to build an extension where the vast majority of the new seats will be the cheapest in the ground, ie Gallowgate Level 7. Speaking as someone who absolutely hates sitting in Level 7 it wouldn't be a particularly inspiring move for me but I suppose if a new city centre stadium is completely off the table it's the next best thing, but with all this talk about how poor the atmosphere is, I can't see how bolting 8k seats onto the Gallowgate and tweaking the East Stand will make any positive difference in that respect though. Of course there is a site in the City………the Arena site. It’s only been ‘master planned’ for housing, that means nothing, the club if they choose too could still discuss with the council, and even purchase the land to build a new stadium. It’s all down to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 14 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Of course there is a site in the City………the Arena site. It’s only been ‘master planned’ for housing, that means nothing, the club if they choose too could still discuss with the council, and even purchase the land to build a new stadium. It’s all down to the club. The Club don't just want to stay in the City, they (quite rightly) want to stay in the City Centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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