timnufc22 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Pancrate1892 said: As much as it makes sense for a complete rebuild.....that looks absolutely mint. Another thing explored in a rebuild is the possibility of shifting the pitch into the milburn and raising it so pitch level is above where the press boxes are, then construct the new east stand further away from leazes terrace with the extra space, that would also enable more scope to fill out the east stand corners that hold barely 2000 each. The new east stand could contain new changing rooms, tunnel and media/TV Just a few other pictures from that page, obviously biased but for me it'd be the best stadium in the UK - as grand as Spurs' but with more of a colosseum feel and less of an Americanised stadium feel and with amazing history attached to it too. Granted Man U will upgrade/rebuild, but the rest wont look at good as this imo, it would be some sight. I totally understand the commercial side but this extension would bring in more boxes going along the Gallowgate so so would be a significant upgrade on a corporate level too. I don't know what's the stopping the club hosting gigs etc like other clubs to claim that money too, surely they can? Granted Spurs' American football games are something they have over the rest with their retractable pitch. But isn't it more fun to go up against the rest with identify and history behind us too? I guarantee a lot of fans will be jealous if they're left with hollow new stadiums. I think Everton's new stadium looks to be a decent attempt at keeping some old school feel but it still lacks a unique or grandiose feel from it looks like so far. Many Man City fans miss Maine Road despite the obscene success. West Ham have moved stadium to somewhere with zero identity - how's that extra revenue going for them? They've dont quite well but nothing game changing. I say all this with the caveat that singing area's need to be arranged going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 If we could do something with the East Stand even if it means putting a glass extension then that would be amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 14 minutes ago, Mikky said: If we could do something with the East Stand even if it means putting a glass extension then that would be amazing Put a massive digital screen up, full of LED’s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 18 minutes ago, Mikky said: If we could do something with the East Stand even if it means putting a glass extension then that would be amazing Even on those mock-ups the East just grates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Even on those mock-ups the East just grates. It will never be a truly great stadium if we can’t do anything with the East Stand, one look in the atmosphere thread from last night also confirms that the whole acoustics of the place are shite. It needs to be a complete rebuild job if we stay at SJP for me, mirroring level 7 at the Gallowgate End will kill the place stone dead, the current level 7 is so poorly designed, why the hell we’d want to mirror it at the Gallowgate End is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I’m leaning more and more towards a new stadium like, having tried to get around SJP on crutches yesterday it amplified how shite the facilities are, everything from getting into the toilets, finding and using a lift to the general concourse….its canny shite tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Its not just the East Stand holding up re-development, its the interior and structure of the whole place. The toilets, the concessions, the dingy concourses, the corporate amenities. Non are up to par. IMO the only way is to rebuild on a new footprint in Castle Leazes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, OverThere said: Its not just the East Stand holding up re-development, its the interior and structure of the whole place. The toilets, the concessions, the dingy concourses, the corporate amenities. Non are up to par. IMO the only way is to rebuild on a new footprint in Castle Leazes. Even the access, there’s a queue for the Gallowgate now that can take 20 mins to get in….how will an expansion improve that…unless they demolish the whole stand and start again but even then, access to the turnstiles at diabolical at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Jack27 said: Tell us how you really feel about LED’s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 cool idea, do it nufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ7 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 I’d love to know the average age of ST holders in each stand. I think since the stadium discussion started I’ve noticed more and more how tame the majority of the ground is. Beyond the back 3 or 4 rows of Gallowgate and the singing corner, it’s very poor. You look down from the back of Gallowgate when there’s singing going, but there’s next to nothing happening the further you go down. It was mental watching the West Ham highlights and seeing how many empty seats there were in the East Stand in injury time. What a game and time to have left ffs. Going back to age, if the club could sell a new stadium by talking about the average age of the ST holder, and getting some younger fans in, whilst also organising a new ground so that you can get likeminded fans sitting together, then I’d like to think most would go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, JJ7 said: I’d love to know the average age of ST holders in each stand. I think since the stadium discussion started I’ve noticed more and more how tame the majority of the ground is. Beyond the back 3 or 4 rows of Gallowgate and the singing corner, it’s very poor. You look down from the back of Gallowgate when there’s singing going, but there’s next to nothing happening the further you go down. It was mental watching the West Ham highlights and seeing how many empty seats there were in the East Stand in injury time. What a game and time to have left ffs. Going back to age, if the club could sell a new stadium by talking about the average age of the ST holder, and getting some younger fans in, whilst also organising a new ground so that you can get likeminded fans sitting together, then I’d like to think most would go for it. I never really get the younger fans discussions tbh, how young are these younger fans? I’m 40 and tbh, find the younger fans (late teens to early 20’s) to be absolute bellends for the most part both home and away. I’ll split them into two easy groups….the wankers who have spaffed all over green street one two many times and the anti socialists who couldn’t talk there way through a dinner never mind a sing a song. I always find it a bit of a shame for the older fans tbh, aye they may not all sing and may not always contribute to an atmosphere but for the most part they’ve been through thick and thin and deserve more credit than they get for the most part. I honestly think that people’s ideas about what an atmosphere should be is incredibly inflated, maybe by a mixture of one off games and 30 second YouTube clips, I don’t know. Also, it’s not the 80’s anymore, we not in South America and my experience of Europe is that it’s mostly manufactured. Turned out to be a bit of a rant there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 What happens when a season ticket holder dies? Does that ticket just go out on general sale or can it be claimed by a family member of the deceased? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, gbandit said: What happens when a season ticket holder dies? Does that ticket just go out on general sale or can it be claimed by a family member of the deceased? If you’re planning a murder this is an unwise way to go about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: If you’re planning a murder this is an unwise way to go about it. Going to have to delete my account now before I end up in some true crime doc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 The last Wembley trip said everything about the age and profile of our season ticket holders, clearly not bad people but when it comes to creating an atmosphere they don’t want to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 hours ago, Mikky said: How much distance/could that potentially buy us do you think (away from Leazes Terrace)? Difficult to say, but I guess nearly the width of the existing structure Of course we'd be losing capacity from the milburn but then you'd get that back and some more with a modern new design and a bigger footprint. Whether it would be worth it is anybody's guess. There's also the space around the pitch which could be utilised but then using that would break international football requirements (like anfield) and also leave little space for players warming up and stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 7 minutes ago, gbandit said: What happens when a season ticket holder dies? Does that ticket just go out on general sale or can it be claimed by a family member of the deceased? They put the embalmed corpses into the East Stand on match days Edited April 3 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 6 minutes ago, gbandit said: What happens when a season ticket holder dies? Does that ticket just go out on general sale or can it be claimed by a family member of the deceased? The seat is removed and put in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, bobbydazzla said: They put the embalmed corpses into the East Stand on match days Sure sounds like it, if you know what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 14 minutes ago, PCW1983 said: I’m 40 and tbh, find the younger fans (late teens to early 20’s) to be absolute bellends for the most part both home and away. I’ll split them into two easy groups….the wankers who have spaffed all over green street one two many times and the anti socialists who couldn’t talk there way through a dinner never mind a sing a song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said: Which one are you dude? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 14 minutes ago, gbandit said: What happens when a season ticket holder dies? Does that ticket just go out on general sale or can it be claimed by a family member of the deceased? I asked my dad to put his (with loads of points) in the will like , or I’ll dress up as him if I have to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootShoot Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, timnufc22 said: Just a few other pictures from that page, obviously biased but for me it'd be the best stadium in the UK - as grand as Spurs' but with more of a colosseum feel and less of an Americanised stadium feel and with amazing history attached to it too. Granted Man U will upgrade/rebuild, but the rest wont look at good as this imo, it would be some sight. I totally understand the commercial side but this extension would bring in more boxes going along the Gallowgate so so would be a significant upgrade on a corporate level too. I don't know what's the stopping the club hosting gigs etc like other clubs to claim that money too, surely they can? Granted Spurs' American football games are something they have over the rest with their retractable pitch. But isn't it more fun to go up against the rest with identify and history behind us too? I guarantee a lot of fans will be jealous if they're left with hollow new stadiums. I think Everton's new stadium looks to be a decent attempt at keeping some old school feel but it still lacks a unique or grandiose feel from it looks like so far. Many Man City fans miss Maine Road despite the obscene success. West Ham have moved stadium to somewhere with zero identity - how's that extra revenue going for them? They've dont quite well but nothing game changing. I say all this with the caveat that singing area's need to be arranged going forward. Impossible to move the Milburn stand any further back because of Barrack road Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Superior Acuña said: I asked my dad to put his (with loads of points) in the will like , or I’ll dress up as him if I have to Can recommend this disguise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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