Stifler Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) On 31/01/2025 at 18:33, MagCA said: This image if it is to be in the readability study is not showing the footprint of an extended SJP, it is showing why we can’t extend SJP. First of all it is showing level 7 all the way around the stadium, which we know doesn’t have the space for a modern stadiums amenities. Secondly it is showing where we would have to knock down 2 listed rows of terraced housing. The yellow shaded area is showing what is a legal right of way which would have to be taken away. Thirdly, it is showing how it would go over the path for the Metro if there was to be an extension. A lot of clever people actually think the dashed line represents where the tunnel goes now for the Metro turn around. Finally, the blue line is showing the emergency vehicle and general vehicle route access to the RVI, meaning a Gallowgate extension would still need a tunnel under it. This would again limit concourse space, and would make the layout for Shearers Bar, and the Club store very weird, and would potentially push both of them onto the Stack site. This would be poor form particularly for Shearer’s, as it would then no longer be able to show home 3pm KO’s, as it wouldn’t be in the same location as the event is taking place. Edited February 2 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I think everyone knew that already, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 11 minutes ago, Rich said: I think everyone knew that already, mind. People seem to be following Peters view that it’s a legit plan for a SJP rebuild, rather than outlining why it can’t be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 4 hours ago, MagCA said: Hey lads, how about we make the final first? Are you suggesting that a team which has just lost successive home matches to Bournemouth and Fulham aren’t guaranteed the result they need at home to Arsenal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Stifler said: People seem to be following Peters view that it’s a legit plan for a SJP rebuild, rather than outlining why it can’t be done. I don’t think he’s suggesting that the picture shows the rebuild in fairness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 8 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I don’t think he’s suggesting that the picture shows the rebuild in fairness He literally says that as his first sentence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 hours ago, Rich said: I think everyone knew that already, mind. 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 41 minutes ago, Stifler said: He literally says that as his first sentence. Granted, but the entire thread is a badly ordered mess, which is why you’d think that’s what he meant. He explains further: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Man City are stopping new season tickets. Wounder if that will be the new trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 10 minutes ago, Slim said: Man City are stopping new season tickets. Wounder if that will be the new trend. Been a trend for a while now. Other than those 1,000 we haven't sold any new season tickets for over 3 years and pretty much all the biggest supported teams cap their ST numbers at very low levels. Liverpool only sell 27k season tickets and Anfield has a capacity of 61k. Think ours is now capped at 31k or thereabouts. They'd rather sell memberships and have different people sat in the seats each week (paying a lot more than the cost per match of a ST holder) rather than the same old faces who'll be stuck in a routine and won't spend the same amount of money in the club shop, bars etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I mean, it could also be about not locking out a large percentage of your fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said: Been a trend for a while now. Other than those 1,000 we haven't sold any new season tickets for over 3 years and pretty much all the biggest supported teams cap their ST numbers at very low levels. Liverpool only sell 27k season tickets and Anfield has a capacity of 61k. Think ours is now capped at 31k or thereabouts. They'd rather sell memberships and have different people sat in the seats each week (paying a lot more than the cost per match of a ST holder) rather than the same old faces who'll be stuck in a routine and won't spend the same amount of money in the club shop, bars etc. Making fans pay more to increase revenue is fucking insane when you've physically got funds waiting to be spent on average players with the sole purpose of flipping them a year later for a mediocre profit to appease the PSR gods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 45 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Making fans pay more to increase revenue is fucking insane when you've physically got funds waiting to be spent on average players with the sole purpose of flipping them a year later for a mediocre profit to appease the PSR gods. That's another PSR flaw. Clubs literally having to squeeze every penny out of every revenue source, and unfortunately the supporters are one of the biggest revenue sources. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Season tickets make a lot of sense for any club at any level that doesn't regularly sell out. Guarantee a load of revenue up front, money coming in no matter how the season turns out, allows for owners to plan financially. If you're a club where demand is exceeding supply significantly - then they make almost no sense at all from a strictly financial perspective. Far better to have as many people as possible buying memberships just to have their hat in the ring and a constant cycle or different people on matchdays who are more likely to have additional spend. The fact they even punted those 1000 STs the other year was surprising really. Edited February 3 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I would like to think that not locking people out is a part of the equation as well. They could probably sell 40k season tickets at 1500-2000 if they really wanted to, or somewhere thereabouts anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 12 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: I don’t think he’s suggesting that the picture shows the rebuild in fairness He's not, although I initially did (quite understandably) think that was the case. He uses social media like an old man and then seems annoyed when nobody has a clue what he's trying to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 hour ago, ponsaelius said: He's not, although I initially did (quite understandably) think that was the case. He uses social media like an old man and then seems annoyed when nobody has a clue what he's trying to say. Completely agree - I was scratching my head when I read it. The replies often made it worse. Can’t believe he’s a lawyer if his communication and written skills are that poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I understood it but then I took the time to read it properly without knee jerking. I’m sticking up for us oldies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 On 02/02/2025 at 11:59, SteV said: They did last time. Obviously there was a bit of uproar about how they went about, and no doubt there will be again, however they decide to do it. If I remember correctly the allocation is slightly more than (what we believe to be) the number of ST holders, and that’s without considering that not every single ST holder would apply. Should be a lot less uproar this time really if we do get to the final due to the cup scheme, everyone enrolled in that will obviously get one. Its what they do after that with any remaining tickets that will be interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) If and when we get more seats, we should not increase the number of season tickets. This seems the logical direction both to increase revenue and allow access to the highest number of fans possible. Edited February 3 by OverThere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, OverThere said: If and when we get more seats, we should not increase the number of season tickets. This seems the logical direction both to increase revenue and allow access to the highest number of fans possible. Doubt they will. If we go from 53k to 70k I reckon it be split around 7K corporate and 10K membership or vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) ref the Cup Scheme and possible Final's During the renewal period, Season Ticket holders will have priority access to opt-in to: A Carabao Cup scheme that will automatically trigger the purchase of the existing Season Ticket seat (subject to availability) for any home 2024/25 Carabao Cup matches (does not include the final, if reached). An Emirates FA Cup scheme that will automatically trigger the purchase of the existing Season Ticket seat (subject to availability) for any home 2024/25 Emirates FA Cup matches (does not include the semi-final or final, if reached). What will happen if the club progresses to the Carabao Cup Final or the Emirates FA Cup Semi-Final/Final? Priority access to tickets would be given to those who have already opted-in to the respective Cup Scheme or package. Information on any other priority periods will be communicated subject to progress in cup competitions. Edited February 3 by patrone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Apparently there is an application to install new advertising screens behind the gallowgate on the area they have cleared above the metro, surely this means no expansion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Man U have about 50k season ticket holders, Tottenham 45k, Arsenal 40k and Man City 40k. Going off their current capacities that’s the following percentage of season ticket holders. Man U 68% Spurs 73% Arsenal 67% City 75% If we’ve got 33k season tickets, might be slightly generous number, that’s us at 63% the lowest from that lot. Should we move into a new stadium housing 70k, if we didn’t take any new season ticket holders our percentage would dip to 47%. What should be taken into account with the above clubs and Liverpool is that bar City perhaps, they benefit massively from day trippers to boost match day sales. I think leaving our season ticket numbers at 47% would be a massive risk with such a big ground for the less attractive fixtures. Edited February 3 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: Apparently there is an application to install new advertising screens behind the gallowgate on the area they have cleared above the metro, surely this means no expansion https://portal.newcastle.gov.uk/planning/index.html?fa=getApplication&id=321581 this one? looks like it is a Nexus thing not a Newcastle United thing. Edited February 3 by MagCA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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