Wallsendmag Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The Stadium of Light only cost £15m to build and then they had to pay half of that amount again a few years later to expand it by 7k seats. The total cost including the extension was less than £25m. As a comparison NUFC paid around £45m to extend SJP in 2000 although that was by 16k seats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Boy Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 There's not a chance of the Gallowgate being mirrored up with the Leazes once this office block development is finished. Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating. Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead. I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable. I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city. There is another site available now which is where the newcastle arena is as that is closing in a couple of years. it has lots of land round and it and is a brown field site so would get through planning unlike castle leazes which i still think would be blocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 There's not a chance of the Gallowgate being mirrored up with the Leazes once this office block development is finished. Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating. Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead. I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable. I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city. There is another site available now which is where the newcastle arena is as that is closing in a couple of years. it has lots of land round and it and is a brown field site so would get through planning unlike castle leazes which i still think would be blocked. I agree the arena site would be fantastic for a new stadium, however I think the below development may put pay to this. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/homes-built-quayside-west-approved-19316403 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Arena site would also be my choice if we had to move, Leazes should be kept as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Boy Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 There's not a chance of the Gallowgate being mirrored up with the Leazes once this office block development is finished. Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating. Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead. I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable. I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city. There is another site available now which is where the newcastle arena is as that is closing in a couple of years. it has lots of land round and it and is a brown field site so would get through planning unlike castle leazes which i still think would be blocked. I agree the arena site would be fantastic for a new stadium, however I think the below development may put pay to this. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/homes-built-quayside-west-approved-19316403 still room on the arena site and car park for a super stadium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 There's not a chance of the Gallowgate being mirrored up with the Leazes once this office block development is finished. Is it actually being built? The market for commercial real estate is on its arse. Whatever the use- retail, office, student housing- all have taken an absolute beating. Yeah Radisson red hotel has been given go ahead. I agree we will need to relocate and Castle Leazes is still the best and only city centre site now viable. I can’t see a problem with relocating to Castle Leazes, of course there’ll be nimbys but with Leazes Terrace opened up and St James used to create a new and usable park it could benefit the whole city. There is another site available now which is where the newcastle arena is as that is closing in a couple of years. it has lots of land round and it and is a brown field site so would get through planning unlike castle leazes which i still think would be blocked. I agree the arena site would be fantastic for a new stadium, however I think the below development may put pay to this. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/homes-built-quayside-west-approved-19316403 still room on the arena site and car park for a super stadium Hope your right I think it would be a great site with close links to city centre, and would actually be quite spectacular with the right design in that location. Potential to be even fucking colder in winter, but I’m sure the Saudi’s will install heated seats to account for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I drove over the redheugh bridge yesterday and that site would be amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I drove over the redheugh bridge yesterday and that site would be amazing Without a doubt people arriving in the city by train would be hit straight away with it as they cross river. Also in line with the new American stadiums a big glass window at one end of stadium overlooking river/bridges would be something else. Obviously it would hopefully have a big tiered stand like Spurs now have to create atmosphere, though I love St Jame’s long term this would transform us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I drove over the redheugh bridge yesterday and that site would be amazing Without a doubt people arriving in the city by train would be hit straight away with it as they cross river. Also in line with the new American stadiums a big glass window at one end of stadium overlooking river/bridges would be something else. Obviously it would hopefully have a big tiered stand like Spurs now have to create atmosphere, though I love St Jame’s long term this would transform us. Yeah. I have had that idea for a while and for that location. And open side at that side, then have that stand hold about 7,000 fans and have it as the away end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I drove over the redheugh bridge yesterday and that site would be amazing Without a doubt people arriving in the city by train would be hit straight away with it as they cross river. Also in line with the new American stadiums a big glass window at one end of stadium overlooking river/bridges would be something else. Obviously it would hopefully have a big tiered stand like Spurs now have to create atmosphere, though I love St Jame’s long term this would transform us. Yeah. I have had that idea for a while and for that location. And open side at that side, then have that stand hold about 7,000 fans and have it as the away end. What would be the point of moving if one of the ends of the ground only held 7000? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I drove over the redheugh bridge yesterday and that site would be amazing Without a doubt people arriving in the city by train would be hit straight away with it as they cross river. Also in line with the new American stadiums a big glass window at one end of stadium overlooking river/bridges would be something else. Obviously it would hopefully have a big tiered stand like Spurs now have to create atmosphere, though I love St Jame’s long term this would transform us. Yeah. I have had that idea for a while and for that location. And open side at that side, then have that stand hold about 7,000 fans and have it as the away end. What would be the point of moving if one of the ends of the ground only held 7000? Because you can still have 70,000 seated elsewhere, have you seen any North American stadiums? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Whats the best American stadium, Dallas Cowboys ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Whats the best American stadium, Dallas Cowboys ? Probably the new LA one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Whats the best American stadium, Dallas Cowboys ? Allegiant Stadium imo (Raiders) Big fan of US Bank stadium, too (Vikings) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I drove over the redheugh bridge yesterday and that site would be amazing Without a doubt people arriving in the city by train would be hit straight away with it as they cross river. Also in line with the new American stadiums a big glass window at one end of stadium overlooking river/bridges would be something else. Obviously it would hopefully have a big tiered stand like Spurs now have to create atmosphere, though I love St Jame’s long term this would transform us. Yeah. I have had that idea for a while and for that location. And open side at that side, then have that stand hold about 7,000 fans and have it as the away end. What would be the point of moving if one of the ends of the ground only held 7000? Because you can still have 70,000 seated elsewhere, have you seen any North American stadiums? 72,000 capacity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 The Seattle stadium with a view of the city at one end is spectacular. I think Minnesota and Atlanta’s new stadiums have big glass windows at one end, if we could frame the river and bridges at one end it would be breathtaking. Let’s just hope the council don’t ear mark it for student accommodation, before any new owner can explore the possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I drove over the redheugh bridge yesterday and that site would be amazing Without a doubt people arriving in the city by train would be hit straight away with it as they cross river. Also in line with the new American stadiums a big glass window at one end of stadium overlooking river/bridges would be something else. Obviously it would hopefully have a big tiered stand like Spurs now have to create atmosphere, though I love St Jame’s long term this would transform us. Yeah. I have had that idea for a while and for that location. And open side at that side, then have that stand hold about 7,000 fans and have it as the away end. What would be the point of moving if one of the ends of the ground only held 7000? Because you can still have 70,000 seated elsewhere, have you seen any North American stadiums? Lansdowne road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Whats the best American stadium, Dallas Cowboys ? The Horseshoe where Ohio State plays has to be in there with a shout. 102k capacity (110k record attendance). The stand where this photo is taken is a single tier and holds something like 25-30k people alone. Kop who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 The size of college stadiums is insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Thats a great photo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 The size of college stadiums is insane. The whole concept of college sport being followed by fans and on TV is ludicrous to me. I’ve seen Durham University play football in front of around 10 people, all of whom were friends and family of the players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 The size of college stadiums is insane. The whole concept of college sport being followed by fans and on TV is ludicrous to me. I’ve seen Durham University play football in front of around 10 people, all of whom were friends and family of the players It is sort of a replacement for our lower league and non-league teams though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I think the biggest part of it is that there was college football in a lot of places long (like decades) before there were NFL/pro teams anywhere near those areas. Especially the South which is why it's so dang popular down there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfella Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 So people think 48,000 capacity Lansdowne road would be a good example of a stadium design to emulate if we ever moved? What would be the point of moving if the capacity was smaller than at St James's? Might as well just tart up our current ground. Admittedly, America has loads of fantastic looking stadiums, but are any of the bigger ones completely covered, but still with one end that only holds 7000? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 So people think 51,000 capacity Lansdowne road would be a good example of a stadium design to emulate if we ever moved? What would be the point of moving if the capacity was smaller than at St James's? Might as well just tart up our current ground. Admittedly, America has loads of fantastic looking stadiums, but are any of the bigger ones completely covered, but still with one end that only holds 7000? That’s not what people are saying though. What we are saying is that a smaller stand behind one of the goals with an open section or section where the city is visible behind it looks great and could work on the Arena site. You could have a 80,000 seater stadium and say at least 8,000 fans in the smaller stand. So long as there was at least 10% in the smaller stand, then you could easily have that stand for away fans only, making segregation easier, and not resulting in stewards or blankets over seats in order to segregate fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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