TBG Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Did he wish the fans a safe journey today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) I'm no fan of the look of the external exoskeleton as it makes every modern/redeveloped stadium look the same, rather than different and iconic. However the ability to be able to host all events, all year round, will have the stadium paying for itself in no time at all. It's an absolute game changer for clubs who pursue it - particularly in city centre locations. Edited December 10, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: I'm no fan of the look of the external exoskeleton as it makes every modern/redeveloped stadium look the same, rather than different and iconic. However the ability to be able to host all events, all year round, will have the stadium paying for itself in no time at all. It's an absolute game changer for clubs who pursue it - particularly in city centre locations. Agreed, I've seen it from the outside a few months ago and it's not good compared to the original stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Aye, it looks like something that belongs in Vegas, or a stadium version of Birmingham’s trains station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 For anyone wanting to listen to Darren Eales, here’s the link. Drop down to the 10:30-11:00 broadcast in the drop down menu, and there is a good 15 minutes of SJP talk. https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1702198800/1702204200/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playmaker Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/25062763/newcastle-united-leazes-terrace-concerned-homeless-stadium-expansion/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Playmaker said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/25062763/newcastle-united-leazes-terrace-concerned-homeless-stadium-expansion/ Here we fucking gan.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Playmaker said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/25062763/newcastle-united-leazes-terrace-concerned-homeless-stadium-expansion/ How they going to end up homeless? A semi retired doctor might be bought out by the Saudi government? I'd assume he'll have a few quid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 It’s fucking Sun waffle man. It’s why I have them banned from showing up in my Apple News feed. The article is written for someone who has no idea how planning laws, and listed buildings work. What they have said in that article to be a possibility is wholly an impossibility, in fact they even go on to say/allude to why what they say could happen, can’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Never have any sympathy for people who buy homes in busy, city centre locations and find that the area around them gets developed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) Watched a couple of videos of inside the new Anfield road end at Anfield, whilst it’s not finished you can already see the concourse isn’t a patch on the Spurs stadium. Looks very dated and certainly no wow factor. After seeing that it’s made my mind up a new stadium is 100% the way to go at Castle Leazes, or the arena site. Edited December 17, 2023 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Watched a couple of videos of inside the new Anfield road end at Anfield, whilst it’s not finished you can already see the concourse isn’t a patch on the Spurs stadium. Looks very dated and certainly no wow factor. After seeing that it’s made my mind up a new stadium is 100% the way to go at Castle Leazes, or the arena site. I know it’s a contentious issue and people want to stay at SJP because of location and history, but let’s face it as far as history and memories go there aren’t many who go to matches now that were around the last time we won owt, 1969. Most of the time it’s been mid table mediocrity and relegation, spiced up a bit by the Keegan years. Given the difficulties of major redevelopment of SJP a new stadium on Castle Leazes would be my option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: I know it’s a contentious issue and people want to stay at SJP because of location and history, but let’s face it as far as history and memories go there aren’t many who go to matches now that were around the last time we won owt, 1969. I beg your pardon!!! Even in just my own circle of friends there are a lot of us who enjoyed our European Fairs Cup Win in 1969 . . . https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/fairs-cup-newcastle-united-the-1969-fairs-cup-win-and-the-50th-anniversary-in-2019-etc.2177948/post-159296132 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, manorpark said: I beg your pardon!!! Even in just my own circle of friends there are a lot of us who enjoyed our European Fairs Cup Win in 1969 . . . https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/fairs-cup-newcastle-united-the-1969-fairs-cup-win-and-the-50th-anniversary-in-2019-etc.2177948/post-159296132 Me to I was 18 at the time and fuck all since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: I know it’s a contentious issue and people want to stay at SJP because of location and history, but let’s face it as far as history and memories go there aren’t many who go to matches now that were around the last time we won owt, 1969. Most of the time it’s been mid table mediocrity and relegation, spiced up a bit by the Keegan years. Given the difficulties of major redevelopment of SJP a new stadium on Castle Leazes would be my option. I find this a bit of a short sighted take. For decades we have had nothing but the history and memories of great games at St James’ to keep us going. One day in our future PIF won’t be around and what’s left could be nothing but a half filled, soulless flat pack stadium without 120 years of history to fall back on. Just as well we’re staying put. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Just now, RS said: I find this a bit of a short sighted take. For decades we have had nothing but the history and memories of great games at St James’ to keep us going. One day in our future PIF won’t be around and what’s left could be nothing but a half filled, soulless flat pack stadium without 120 years of history to fall back on. Just as well we’re staying put. I doubt they’ll build a ‘flatpack’ stadium and what is history……it’s about the now and the future, memories are great but that’s all they are, memories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) I think PIF would build anything but a flatpack, it would likely be something up with the very best. There’s no way the East Stand is getting renovated into anything befitting a top tier stadium unless they can do something with the terrace, which looks highly unlikely to me. Edited December 17, 2023 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, FloydianMag said: I know it’s a contentious issue and people want to stay at SJP because of location and history, but let’s face it as far as history and memories go there aren’t many who go to matches now that were around the last time we won owt, 1969. Most of the time it’s been mid table mediocrity and relegation, spiced up a bit by the Keegan years. Given the difficulties of major redevelopment of SJP a new stadium on Castle Leazes would be my option. I’m going to join the unpopular crowd and agree. SJP has seen nothing but failure (albeit sometimes glorious failure) for decades. I don’t get misty-eyed about it at all. There’s practically zero chance of SJP redevelopment getting us to where the club say they want to get to. If John Hall had stuck to his original plan- which pretty much no-one had any issue with other than Friends of Leazes Park - we wouldn’t even be having this conversation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 The way some go on it's as if everything to do with the club is sacred. Let's not even redevelop the ground in case it loses what makes it great in that case then? New stadiums don't automatically lose the soul of a football club, but there are some considerations that need to be adhered to, such as: location, capacity and I'm sure more that I haven't thought of. For us that means keeping the city centre location - I think this is what has affected atmosphere with lots of new stadiums where they have been moved from city centres to the outskirts. Ideally redeveloped on the same site, if not, nearby. This would be a must for me. And capacity - as someone mentioned if, in future, the ground is too big, that's a bigger issue than it being too small, as it just feels dead. Not for me to pick a number so I'll leave that to others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I think PIF would build anything but a flatpack, it would likely be something up with the very best. There’s no way the East Stand is getting renovated into anything befitting a top tier stadium unless they can do something with the terrace, which looks highly unlikely to me. No-one is going to granted permission to knock down Leazes Terrace, whatever histrionics are printed in shitrags like the S*n. I can remember Blackburn struggling to get compulsory purchase orders to buy the last couple of terrace houses for their renovation a few decades ago - and they were buying old Victorian red brick terraces, not Georgian sandstone town houses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Can we have a sandstone stadium to match the houses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I've changed on this over the years. 20 years ago I was solidly stay at SJP. But... Maybe I'm being influenced by the changed makeup of the crowd and atmosphere. It seems like there are a lot of integral problems now that can only realistically be fixed by a blank slate. I'm not an expert but it seems like new stadium design has come on a long way having learnt from earlier mistakes, too. It potentially will allow ten or twenty thousand extra people (beyond SJP redevelopment) see games, and could be an engine for the wider local economy if done right. Whether I'm being economically unrealistic or not in asking this from PIF, I'd want it made to extremely high standards though i.e. not just a metal and plastic spaceship designed for the latest passing trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, Checko said: Can we have a sandstone stadium to match the houses? Sandstone? Sand, the desert?! Imagine the conspiracy theories over Saudi sand washing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 48 minutes ago, Checko said: Can we have a sandstone stadium to match the houses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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