St James' Park

[Guest]

Just now, Ben said:

I do

I also do

[Toon1892]

Just now, Ben said:

I do

I don’t 

[Ben]

Just now, Toon1892 said:

I don’t 

Why not

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Ben said:

I do

Well that's it settled then.

[Ben]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

Well that's it settled then.

 

Darn tootin 

[Dr.Spaceman]

15 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Because not everyone wants that.

 

Aye, they sit in the east stand.

[Kid Icarus]

5 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

Aye, they sit in the east stand.

 

That poll would suggest otherwise like, but I get that it's annoying being in the minority.

[Dr.Spaceman]

4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

That poll would suggest otherwise like, but I get that it's annoying being in the minority.

 

I'd be interested to see the demographics of those who competed the poll, I didn't contribute, nor did the bloke I sit next to at the match. I doubt the fella in front did either.

[cubaricho]

2 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

I'd be interested to see the demographics of those who competed the poll

 

Boomers, I'd imagine.

[Kid Icarus]

Predominantly Gen X. 

 

[LFEE]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Predominantly Gen X. 

 

I read somewhere the other week the average age of a PL fan was 41/42.

[Toon1892]

7 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

I'd be interested to see the demographics of those who competed the poll, I didn't contribute, nor did the bloke I sit next to at the match. I doubt the fella in front did either.

I didn’t get a say either despite having a season ticket. It was just a random sample I believe.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Toon1892 said:

I didn’t get a say either despite having a season ticket. It was just a random sample I believe.

It was a NUST survey. Any member could have contributed 

[Kid Icarus]

Around 1200 contributed, that's canny good going considering anything above 200 is usually representative providing there's nothing dodgy going on. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

Ah okay, I couldn't give a shit what the disciples of Hurst think 

[Dr Jinx]

NUST are a lame duck now and have been pretty much since the takeover.

 

We needed an advocate when Ashley was here, not that he listened but we were pretty much voiceless if not for them.

 

But now, yes the club will make the odd mistake but social media has more sway in causing action than NUST do at this point.

 

I just see all this shit as an exercise in trying to stay relevant and more certainly playing to a certain section of the support.

[Sima]

Can you still buy the jigsaw?

[J7]

‘the vast majority (almost half)’. Aye, ok.

[whiteline]

9 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

NUST are a lame duck now and have been pretty much since the takeover.

 

We needed an advocate when Ashley was here, not that he listened but we were pretty much voiceless if not for them.

 

But now, yes the club will make the odd mistake but social media has more sway in causing action than NUST do at this point.

 

I just see all this shit as an exercise in trying to stay relevant and more certainly playing to a certain section of the support.

Social media as in that balanced approach  forum of X?

“All this shit” behave.

[OpenC]

12 hours ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

I think we need to help people understand that we're not going to be leaving SJP for a bigger version of The Riverside or St Mary's. It will literally be one of the greatest football stadiums in the world, built with an effectively unlimited budget, potentially invigorating a dead area of the town.

 

Why would you not want that 

 

We've already got one of the greatest football stadiums in the world, that the owners appear to value as such themselves. 

 

"Potential invigoration" is not a particularly appealing gamble for some of us when the aforementioned dead area of town is literally a falling apart industrial estate, and will likely continue to be.  Would you say the area around the stadium of light has been "invigorated" by people flocking to the area enough to support a full time business?  Ours would look the same unless PIF are buying 20 square miles of quayside and putting in all the shops and cafes and bars that people are imagining will spring out of nothingness for the one or two days a fortnight the area gets used.  I just don't see how a football stadium supports a non-viable part of town on its own.  Is it the go-karts, Spice Girls gigs and NFL again that are going to do it?

 

 

Edited May 15, 2024 by OpenC

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, OpenC said:

 

We've already got one of the greatest football stadiums in the world, that the owners appear to value as such themselves. 

 

"Potential invigoration" is not a particularly appealing gamble for some of us when the aforementioned dead area of town is literally a falling apart industrial estate, and will likely continue to be.  Would you say the area around the stadium of light has been "invigorated" by people flocking to the area enough to support a full time business?  Ours would look the same unless PIF are buying 20 square miles of quayside and putting in all the shops and cafes and bars that people are imagining will spring out of nothingness for the one or two days a fortnight the area gets used.  I just don't see how a football stadium supports a non-viable part of town on its own.  Is it the go-karts, Spice Girls gigs and NFL again that are going to do it?

 

 

 

By what metric do we have one of the best stadiums in the world? Genuinely curious. 

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

10 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

NUST are a lame duck now and have been pretty much since the takeover.

 

We needed an advocate when Ashley was here, not that he listened but we were pretty much voiceless if not for them.

 

But now, yes the club will make the odd mistake but social media has more sway in causing action than NUST do at this point.

 

I just see all this shit as an exercise in trying to stay relevant and more certainly playing to a certain section of the support.

 

100% agree.  The club should set up better direct channels of communication with the fan (and to be fair they are tying).  All the trust is a way to give a few people views more perceived weight to the club as in theory they are representing 10,000 members.  Ultimately they are not though.  When pressing issues like ticketing for the final occur they express their own opinions.  They did not get the opinions of the members.  

 

I think an organisation like the trust can be useful when there is a breakdown between the club and its fans.  If the club are not actively trying to engage with the fans.  But to be honest when we were in that situation the trust position themselves as “not a protest group”.  They did very little to help with Ashley(I doubt anyone could have) and when they had a meeting with the Premier league they were utterly useless. 

 

I appreciate that the members of the trust board may well be trying their best but the entire organisation should just be dissolved.  

[OpenC]

8 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

By what metric do we have one of the best stadiums in the world? Genuinely curious. 

 

Well that's the thing, isn't it?  Some things you can't put a numeric value on.  I could name you half a dozen stadiums which have better metrics (be that more seats, bigger pitch access for getting stage sets in, better transport network, catchment area not interrupted by North Sea, whatever) that I wouldn't want to call Newcastle's home in favour of what we have now.

 

SJP's location, its history, what it represents to what's always been a one-club city, are all important to a lot of us.  Opposition fans appear to enjoy visiting it and want to come here at least partially because of it.  If it was a shit tip with zero value the owners wouldn't have come out in support of staying there, presumably.

 

 

Edited May 15, 2024 by OpenC

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, OpenC said:

 

Well that's the thing, isn't it?  Some things you can't put a numeric value on.  I could name you half a dozen stadiums which have better metrics (be that more seats, bigger pitch access for getting stage sets in, better transport network, catchment area not interrupted by North Sea, whatever) that I wouldn't want to call Newcastle's home in favour of what we have now.

 

SJP's location, its history, what it represents to what's always been a one-club city, are all important to a lot of us.  Opposition fans appear to enjoy visiting it and want to come here at least partially because of it.  If it was a shit tip with zero value the owners wouldn't have come out in support of staying there, presumably.

 

 

 

Fair enough

[Kid Icarus]

9 hours ago, JJ7 said:

‘the vast majority (almost half)’. Aye, ok.

 

It represents almost half of the respondents from a quarter of the possible age demographics. Could be wrong but I think outside of voting systems majority just means the most.