St James' Park

[Tiresias]

i generally hate the super modern stadiums, all shine no soul. I am not against against new stadium by all means, I just dont want to rush headlong into something without consideration of what may be lost by moving it somewhere else primarily

[Danh1]

1 minute ago, Tiresias said:

i generally hate the super modern stadiums, all shine no soul. I am not against against new stadium by all means, I just dont want to rush headlong into something without consideration of what may be lost by moving it somewhere else primarily

They’re good for a couple of years until the next super stadium comes along and makes it look like yesterdays news.

 

See Emirates. See Wembley. See Spurs stadium. Wouldn’t want any of them as our home. 

[Kid Icarus]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

My preference would be to stay at SJP - if SJP could be redeveloped to bring it up to modern standards and could be expanded enough to make it worthwhile.   I’m surprised they didn’t get 100% ‘stay at SJP’ given the way the question was presented.  It’s how I would have voted - and I’m one of those who think that the best option would ultimately be to move. 

 

But the question was disingenuous.  Pollsters and psephologists know that how a question is worded is vital - it’s why they tend to be careful in their phrasing. 

Disingenuous man Don't be daft. 

[Kid Icarus]

1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

I think we need to help people understand that we're not going to be leaving SJP for a bigger version of The Riverside or St Mary's. It will literally be one of the greatest football stadiums in the world, built with an effectively unlimited budget, potentially invigorating a dead area of the town.

 

Why would you not want that 

Because not everyone wants that.

[Ben]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Because not everyone wants that.

I do

[Guest]

Just now, Ben said:

I do

I also do

[Toon1892]

Just now, Ben said:

I do

I don’t 

[Ben]

Just now, Toon1892 said:

I don’t 

Why not

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Ben said:

I do

Well that's it settled then.

[Ben]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

Well that's it settled then.

 

Darn tootin 

[Dr.Spaceman]

15 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Because not everyone wants that.

 

Aye, they sit in the east stand.

[Kid Icarus]

5 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

Aye, they sit in the east stand.

 

That poll would suggest otherwise like, but I get that it's annoying being in the minority.

[Dr.Spaceman]

4 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

That poll would suggest otherwise like, but I get that it's annoying being in the minority.

 

I'd be interested to see the demographics of those who competed the poll, I didn't contribute, nor did the bloke I sit next to at the match. I doubt the fella in front did either.

[cubaricho]

2 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

I'd be interested to see the demographics of those who competed the poll

 

Boomers, I'd imagine.

[Kid Icarus]

Predominantly Gen X. 

 

[LFEE]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Predominantly Gen X. 

 

I read somewhere the other week the average age of a PL fan was 41/42.

[Toon1892]

7 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

 

I'd be interested to see the demographics of those who competed the poll, I didn't contribute, nor did the bloke I sit next to at the match. I doubt the fella in front did either.

I didn’t get a say either despite having a season ticket. It was just a random sample I believe.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Toon1892 said:

I didn’t get a say either despite having a season ticket. It was just a random sample I believe.

It was a NUST survey. Any member could have contributed 

[Kid Icarus]

Around 1200 contributed, that's canny good going considering anything above 200 is usually representative providing there's nothing dodgy going on. 

[Dr.Spaceman]

Ah okay, I couldn't give a shit what the disciples of Hurst think 

[Dr Jinx]

NUST are a lame duck now and have been pretty much since the takeover.

 

We needed an advocate when Ashley was here, not that he listened but we were pretty much voiceless if not for them.

 

But now, yes the club will make the odd mistake but social media has more sway in causing action than NUST do at this point.

 

I just see all this shit as an exercise in trying to stay relevant and more certainly playing to a certain section of the support.

[Sima]

Can you still buy the jigsaw?

[J7]

‘the vast majority (almost half)’. Aye, ok.

[whiteline]

9 hours ago, Dr Jinx said:

NUST are a lame duck now and have been pretty much since the takeover.

 

We needed an advocate when Ashley was here, not that he listened but we were pretty much voiceless if not for them.

 

But now, yes the club will make the odd mistake but social media has more sway in causing action than NUST do at this point.

 

I just see all this shit as an exercise in trying to stay relevant and more certainly playing to a certain section of the support.

Social media as in that balanced approach  forum of X?

“All this shit” behave.

[OpenC]

12 hours ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

I think we need to help people understand that we're not going to be leaving SJP for a bigger version of The Riverside or St Mary's. It will literally be one of the greatest football stadiums in the world, built with an effectively unlimited budget, potentially invigorating a dead area of the town.

 

Why would you not want that 

 

We've already got one of the greatest football stadiums in the world, that the owners appear to value as such themselves. 

 

"Potential invigoration" is not a particularly appealing gamble for some of us when the aforementioned dead area of town is literally a falling apart industrial estate, and will likely continue to be.  Would you say the area around the stadium of light has been "invigorated" by people flocking to the area enough to support a full time business?  Ours would look the same unless PIF are buying 20 square miles of quayside and putting in all the shops and cafes and bars that people are imagining will spring out of nothingness for the one or two days a fortnight the area gets used.  I just don't see how a football stadium supports a non-viable part of town on its own.  Is it the go-karts, Spice Girls gigs and NFL again that are going to do it?

 

 

Edited May 15, 2024 by OpenC