St James' Park

[LFEE]

5 minutes ago, Stifler said:

There is absolutely no need for the Strawberry road behind the Gallowgate, especially on a match day when it’s closed in anyway.

 

Exactly. I also think they could reduce or re-route/remove Barrack Road in that area.

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Stifler said:

There is absolutely no need for the Strawberry road behind the Gallowgate, especially on a match day when it’s closed in anyway.

People forget that it was closed for at least a year when they were building the gallowgate in the 90s

[Ben]

1 hour ago, Stifler said:

There is absolutely no need for the Strawberry road behind the Gallowgate, especially on a match day when it’s closed in anyway.

 

I agree, but how would you get from the RVI to St James Boulevard ? 

[ponsaelius]

You could easily keep emergency vehicle access along Strawberry Place if it involved a pedestrianised area adjacent to the ground. In fact you can usually improve emergency vehicle movement corridor by doing so. Unless you're meaning normal vehicle access?

 

 

Edited August 15, 2024 by ponsaelius

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, LFEE said:

Regarding your doubts on temporary solution I’ve a funny feeling that was what Eales was hinting at when he said he couldn’t say too much but if the fans see what we’ve done with the Stack it would give an indication on our plans.

 

Maybe I’m reading too much into it. Just felt like he was hinting at a temporary ground whilst a new one was built.

 

Also don’t think the Council would object to less traffic in the centre with regards to changing Barrack Road. Anything that helps the Green Zone which it falls into they’ll approve. They might want to get rid of the road completely along with Strawberry Place even and come up with alternative routes for delivery access.

 

A temporary ground wouldn’t cost much less than a new one - PIF is an investment fund, they’re not going to pour a couple of hundred million down the drain so that NUFC supporters don’t grumble for a season or so

[Ben]

2 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

You could easily keep emergency vehicle access along Strawberry Place if it involved a pedestrianised area adjacent to the ground. In fact you can usually improve emergency vehicle movement corridor by doing so. Unless you're meaning normal vehicle access?

 

 

 

Aye both, if that road was shut it would be a big detour 

[jack j]

14 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

I agree, but how would you get from the RVI to St James Boulevard ? 

Up Richardson road turn left and down by the bbc

[JonBez comesock]

Thinking about this

 

If we really want to be number 1 

 

We have to move from St James’ Park 

ideally 100 metres back into leazes park 

 

We can’t compete long term or ever with Man City / Man Utd / Real Madrid / Barcelona ……if we stay at St James park , even if we expand to 60/65k

 

If it’s true and we want to be the very best , we literally have to have a brand new stadium (70k +) to be an elite team and smash commercial revenue / co-operate etc 

 

We can’t spend hundreds of millions on an upgrade and fall short of being an elite club 

 

 

This decision is absolutely pivotal and a guide if we will be world class or just a big club (just below the elite) 

 

You can’t compete with Real Madrid , Barcelona, Man City , with an 6/8k expansion!

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, JonBez comesock said:

Thinking about this

 

If we really want to be number 1 

 

We have to move from St James’ Park 

ideally 100 metres back into leazes park 

 

We can’t compete long term or ever with Man City / Man Utd / Real Madrid / Barcelona ……if we stay at St James park , even if we expand to 60/65k

 

If it’s true and we want to be the very best , we literally have to have a brand new stadium (70k +) to be an elite team and smash commercial revenue / co-operate etc 

 

We can’t spend hundreds of millions on an upgrade and fall short of being an elite club 

 

 

This decision is absolutely pivotal and a guide if we will be world class or just a big club (just below the elite) 

 

You can’t compete with Real Madrid , Barcelona, Man City , with an 6/8k expansion!

100% - and it is why that when we do find out the plans, then we'll know what the owners' intentions are (more than any words they can utter).  A state-of-the-art super stadium would be a statement of intent

[Guest]

16 hours ago, Ben said:

 

I agree, but how would you get from the RVI to St James Boulevard ? 

Helicopter 

[Ben]

26 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said:

Helicopter 

 

And if my Helicopter is in for a service ........?

[Fezzle]

10 hours ago, JonBez comesock said:

 

You can’t compete with Real Madrid , Barcelona, Man City , with an 6/8k expansion!

Never mind that we are languishing miles behind Spurs, especially with only adding 8000 'cheap' seats. Vast improvements to commercial income via a new stadium is essential if we want to join the big boys club fulltime

[Stifler]

4 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

Never mind that we are languishing miles behind Spurs, especially with only adding 8000 'cheap' seats. Vast improvements to commercial income via a new stadium is essential if we want to join the big boys club fulltime

Next season Everton will have a better stadium than us.

If Villa go back to their expansion, they will have a stadium that is at least on par with us.

West Ham may not have a better stadium than us, but they have a bigger capacity one that can get London ticket/food/drinks prices.

A simple stick a level 7 on top of the Gallowgate end is not really an option.

 

I’m not convinced that we would get a temporary stadium, however I am convinced that if we do stay at SJP, we’ll have a total rebuild.

[Fezzle]

1 minute ago, Stifler said:

Next season Everton will have a better stadium than us.

If Villa go back to their expansion, they will have a stadium that is at least on par with us.

West Ham may not have a better stadium than us, but they have a bigger capacity one that can get London ticket/food/drinks prices.

A simple stick a level 7 on top of the Gallowgate end is not really an option.

 

I’m not convinced that we would get a temporary stadium, however I am convinced that if we do stay at SJP, we’ll have a total rebuild.

And none of the costs involved

[Guest]

New Build = Away fans pitch side. 

[Fezzle]

Just now, OCK said:

New Build = Away fans pitch side. 

Put the under the East Stand season ticket holders, might keep them awake during games

[Ben]

Just have a strip of fans 10 wide from the pitch to the top of the stadium.

[nufcjb]

1 hour ago, Stifler said:

Next season Everton will have a better stadium than us.

If Villa go back to their expansion, they will have a stadium that is at least on par with us.

West Ham may not have a better stadium than us, but they have a bigger capacity one that can get London ticket/food/drinks prices.

A simple stick a level 7 on top of the Gallowgate end is not really an option.

 

I’m not convinced that we would get a temporary stadium, however I am convinced that if we do stay at SJP, we’ll have a total rebuild.

But..but..but some of our fans don't want us to lose our history and identity....and would rather the club be stuck on the same pot of.land forever.

[Ben]

TBF I think everyone wants a brand new super stadium, they just want it where the current stadium is.

[Sima]

1 hour ago, OCK said:

New Build = Away fans pitch side. 

 

I'm all for it.

 

Put them near a proposed all-standing section.  Will improve the atmosphere immeasurably.

[TBG]

[Ben]

Just now, TBG said:

 

Great stuff that

[On the Grid]

2 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Great stuff that

Not enough pints for PSR going on looking at those numbers...need to up our game

[TK-421]

1 minute ago, On the Grid said:

Not enough pints for PSR going on looking at those numbers...need to up our game

 

[Ben]

3 minutes ago, On the Grid said:

Not enough pints for PSR going on looking at those numbers...need to up our game

 

So if I go and have a skin full tonight at the Stack we can afford a new Center Half ?