toontownman Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I agree on the full back situation. Whilst an experienced defender or even just a leader playing alongside Bramble is one solution, fullbacks have been the prime suspect in our dodgy defence. Who ever has played in the centre has constantly had to defend twice his normal work load due to the ineptitude of our fullbacks, I cant ever remember us have any great ones. The full backs leave gaping holes or just make mistakes or get out of position that leave the CB's having to cover more ground. A decent LB and RB should have been priority every summer for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I agree on the full back situation. Whilst an experienced defender or even just a leader playing alongside Bramble is one solution, fullbacks have been the prime suspect in our dodgy defence. Who ever has played in the centre has constantly had to defend twice his normal work load due to the ineptitude of our fullbacks, I cant ever remember us have any great ones. The full backs leave gaping holes or just make mistakes or get out of position that leave the CB's having to cover more ground. A decent LB and RB should have been priority every summer for years. Coupled with the over exposed centre its been a tough job for any NUFC defender. Only since Butt has come into form this season have we had ANY protection through the middle for years, probably since Speed maybe longer if you want to be picky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Like i've said, he's good enough for where we are now, but it is foolish to pretend that he's good enough if we want to be a top 6 side. yet he was there when we were a top 6 side go figure. Your point being? It was despite him, not because of him. He's not good enough to be in a team that achieves and maintains that level. 3 seasons in a row ain't bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Like i've said, he's good enough for where we are now, but it is foolish to pretend that he's good enough if we want to be a top 6 side. yet he was there when we were a top 6 side go figure. Your point being? It was despite him, not because of him. He's not good enough to be in a team that achieves and maintains that level. 3 seasons in a row ain't bad. Liek i say, not his doing. He ain't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Like i've said, he's good enough for where we are now, but it is foolish to pretend that he's good enough if we want to be a top 6 side. yet he was there when we were a top 6 side go figure. Your point being? It was despite him, not because of him. He's not good enough to be in a team that achieves and maintains that level. 3 seasons in a row ain't bad. Like i've said, he's good enough for where we are now, but it is foolish to pretend that he's good enough if we want to be a top 6 side. yet he was there when we were a top 6 side go figure. Your point being? It was despite him, not because of him. He's not good enough to be in a team that achieves and maintains that level. 3 seasons in a row ain't bad. Griffin, O'Brien, Bernard & Hughes all played 30+ games when we finished 3rd...one's at Stoke, one's being linked with Derby, one with Sunderland, and the other hasn't played a game for over a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 We should move him into a DCM role, or LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 We should move him into a DCM role, or LB. Aye,he got the long pass's,the Tackles,and the physical abilltys to make a good DCM Also he can be a good LB if he was a bit faster/And had some attacking abilltys,he will do Better then Carr though But i don't think he will do a better job then Parker or Butt as DCM's,He will however make a decent one But with his recent peformence as a DC he deserves to start our next game(s). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 We should move him into a DCM role, or LB. bramble ? does the HTT stand for hopelessly terrible at tactics.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenton Magpie Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Offer him a one year contract extension, 5 years is too risky as it is Bramble we are talking about! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 NM is right, Andy O'Brien carried Bramble those years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keithy-Boy Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 No, but he is playing well and in Europe, his game is suited to that level, he's always looked good in Europe. iv always said this to my mates who slate him and have never really seem him play. his tackle last night wen the guy was almost 1 on 1 with given was fuckin brilliant!! given chased him half way up the pitch to thank him!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 He has the ability to be excellent which is something most of our defenders lack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 We should move him into a DCM role, or LB. Aye,he got the long pass's,the Tackles,and the physical abilltys to make a good DCM Also he can be a good LB if he was a bit faster/And had some attacking abilltys,he will do Better then Carr though But i don't think he will do a better job then Parker or Butt as DCM's,He will however make a decent one But with his recent peformence as a DC he deserves to start our next game(s). I was half joking regarding DCM, but LB, I don't know, if he lost a bit of bulk, he could do a decent job there, certainly better than either Babayaro or Carr or any of the others we've tried there, his versitility would also come in handy. Anyway regarding Bramble in the grande scheme of things, I say keep him as a good squad player, he is more than equipped to play well against your Boros, Wigans et al, it is only against the better teams does he struggle. That said, it is up to the team to protect the central defence and to be fair to all those players who have played there for us recently, we don't do that nearly as good enough as we should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Well,your joke actually makes sense He is decent,but its his lack of concentration that turned him to such a flop,If we can get him to play in a postion where he can play to his abilltys and at the same time dosn't effect the team with his mistakes,we would find a good back-up in him.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 We should have got rid years ago imo I've never known one player to cost us so many games/points through individual errors. Horendous start to the season and Fulham at home springs straight to mind amongst others, he cost us both goals and the game. I agree he has all the physical attributes but think he lacks some of the all important mental attributes, i saw a few unforced errors last night that he got away with, he did pull off a woody style goal saving tackle and on the whole played quite well (for him), thought . He's after a new contact once he's signed up he'll be back to old Titus again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Like i've said, he's good enough for where we are now, but it is foolish to pretend that he's good enough if we want to be a top 6 side. yet he was there when we were a top 6 side go figure. Your point being? It was despite him, not because of him. He's not good enough to be in a team that achieves and maintains that level. 3 seasons in a row ain't bad. Like i've said, he's good enough for where we are now, but it is foolish to pretend that he's good enough if we want to be a top 6 side. yet he was there when we were a top 6 side go figure. Your point being? It was despite him, not because of him. He's not good enough to be in a team that achieves and maintains that level. 3 seasons in a row ain't bad. Griffin, O'Brien, Bernard & Hughes all played 30+ games when we finished 3rd...one's at Stoke, one's being linked with Derby, one with Sunderland, and the other hasn't played a game for over a year. Is your point that Bramble was carrying all of them? If so, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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