Guest hindu times Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Do you really think we would have won last night even if Bobby, Souness, Keegan, Gullit or Dalglish were in charge? I don't. We have alway been good at shooting ourselves in the foot, and gifting goals to oppositions. It's just the Newcastle way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 cursed tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 With Bobby, possibly, yes. Certainly couldn't write it off, like you just have. Souness, who knows, he could've sat on the lead, which may not have been pretty, but might have stopped us by losing by 2 goals. Keegan, probably not, would've gone for it, and got caught out. Gullit? Dalglish? Meh, not really "recent" managers anymore. I know Keegan isn't, then, but he's different clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 We had lost the game before it started due to our motivation, and our mentality on how to approach the fixture. Bobby, Souness, Keegan, Gullit and Dalglish all possessed experience at winning these kind of ties as either a player or manager, while Bobby and Keegan would have definitely had them all motivated. Subsequently, I could see all of them getting the team playing much better than Roeder did last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 It would have been nice if we'd actually tried to do anything. We didn't attack, we didn't defend. We just...meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Do you really think we would have won last night even if Bobby, Souness, Keegan, Gullit or Dalglish were in charge? I don't. We have alway been good at shooting ourselves in the foot, and gifting goals to oppositions. It's just the Newcastle way. I think we COULD have won last night, yes. If we didn't have that fucktard Roeder as a manager, we could have done it. It wasn't pre-destined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 We had lost the game before it started due to our motivation, and our mentality on how to approach the fixture. Bobby, Souness, Keegan, Gullit and Dalglish all possessed experience at winning these kind of ties as either a player or manager, while Bobby and Keegan would have definitely had them all motivated. Subsequently, I could see all of them getting the team playing much better than Roeder did last night. Funnily enough this was very much a 'Gullit fixture'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 bobby or king kev would have won this - fuck, so would i i suppose... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Not even the point tbh, the point is the current manager's overall tactics were poor last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Do you really think we would have won last night even if Bobby, Souness, Keegan, Gullit or Dalglish were in charge? I don't. We have alway been good at shooting ourselves in the foot, and gifting goals to oppositions. It's just the Newcastle way. If SBR was our manager yes Because then we would have looked as a team who has some kind style of play SBR was cappable of getting the best out of the players he had Im sure if SBR was our manager yesterday we should have go through...ah dreams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 If we had Booby in charge we wouldn't have gone over there having conceded 2 away goals. We would have been sitting on 1-0/2-0 lead imo. Those goals cost us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WalkervilleMag Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 we went over, having trained all week ... on getting the desired result which was 0-0. soon as they scored we were fcked. We did not even try until the last 5 or 6 mins when it was blaitenly too late. We had the tools to do it, AZ inmho are an average team who were just gifted a place in the Q-Finals by our lack of fight,Hunger,Pride,Balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Being positive is good, trying to make excuses for everything that goes wrong is not. Last night we were shit and the buck stops with Roeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Even if it were true that the other managers would fail why does that excuse roeder fucking it up? Should everyone in jail right now be let off because, hey, at least they didn't kill millions of people like hitler? Do you see the fallacy of rationalizations? You have to look at each case as its own entity, objectively and thoroughly. And the only conclusion that can be drawn based on last nights abortion of footballing effort on our part is that Roeder completely and utterly cocked it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaststar Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Do you really think we would have won last night even if Bobby, Souness, Keegan, Gullit or Dalglish were in charge? I don't. We have alway been good at shooting ourselves in the foot, and gifting goals to oppositions. It's just the Newcastle way. I reckon we would have won under Bobby or Keegan - especially under Keegan. We may have conceded 2 goals but we would have been attacking, attacking...constantly attacking. Daglish - possibly. But probably same result under Gullit and Pooness....we'll never know tho tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 Let's not forget that it was Roeder who took usfrom 15th to 7th place, through the Intertoto and through the UEFA group stage to get us this far. I don't think he called it right last night, and maybe one of our previous managers could have done better, but let's keep it in perspective. He decided to play virtually the same team as won the first leg, which is understandable, and which I think most of the others would have done. I don't think he reacted quickly enough or correctly when it became clear the plan wasn't working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest king harry Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 if souness was in charge you wouldnt of been there in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest given take Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 if souness was in charge you wouldnt of been there in the first place yeah i know. we'd be in the champions league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest king harry Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 if souness was in charge you wouldnt of been there in the first place yeah i know. we'd be in the champions league the championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpies_rawk Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 i don't buy the pre-destined curse nonsense. This is ridiculous. It's everything about this club that is rotten...from top to bottom. no team is too intrinsically good or bad to succeed. look at West Ham, no longer "too good to go down" eh? And Reading, "too poor to stay up"? i think not. It really is about good and responsible management, from the board right down to the coaching staff, players and not to mention fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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