Guest sicko2ndbest Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Sam lands £12m dealMay 12 2007 By Alan Oliver, The Evening Chronicle Sam Allardyce will sign a four-year contract worth £12m when he becomes Newcastle United manager next week. United are facing a compensation claim from Bolton Wanderers regarding their former manager but Freddy Shepherd obviously believes that Allardyce is going to be worth every penny. Shepherd is clearly confident that he has got his man after a leading national newspaper was tipped off over their meeting in Claridge's in London. United could hardly have chosen a more public place to let the world know that they were meeting Allardyce, and it is in stark contrast to when they met Kenny Dalglish in a quiet hotel off the M6 when the Scot became their manager in 1997. The Chronicle reported on Thursday that Allardyce would be unveiled by United in the middle of next week and this will be the case. All that is needed is for Allardyce to mull over what happened in his talks with Shepherd yesterday and for his contract to be rubber-stamped at a board meeting at St James' Park on Monday. And the fact that United have offered Allardyce a four-year contract rules out any chance of Alan Shearer returning to the club as manager in the immediate future. However, what the immediate future holds for United is to see who Allardyce brings in as his backroom staff, although I expect him to offer Lee Clark the chance to stay as Reserve team coach. Big Sam has always had a large backroom staff at the Reebok Stadium but with the question of compensation still to be sorted out, the last thing United will want to do is upset Bolton chairman Phil Gartside. I have spoken to former United men Gary Speed and Neil McDonald this week, both of whom worked with Allardyce at the Reebok, and it would not surprise me if either - or indeed both - returned to St James' Park. One of the things that has impressed Shepherd about the way Allardyce has worked at the Reebok Stadium is the lack of injuries Bolton have had in recent seasons. Indeed, while United players have lost over 400 hours of playing time this season because of injuries, Bolton only lost 70. And this was because Allardyce (right) and his backroom staff came up with a formula to prevent injuries before they happen. United fans will wait to see how much Allardyce is given to spend but it will not be a lot as the club has never really recovered financially from spending almost £30m in one week on Michael Owen and Albert Luque. But Newcastle have not been letting the grass grow under their feet on the question of new players, and the Chronicle revealed yesterday that a delegation from St James' Park had a meeting with top European agent Mike Morris in Monte Carlo on Thursday night. Shepherd and Allardyce plus their back-up men met in Claridge's for three hours and it's a fair bet a lot of time was spent discussing Michael Owen's situation at St. James' Park. And I have to say there is a fair chance that Owen will not be a United player come the start of the season. That was the week, that was Saturday: Newcastle United are beaten 2-0 by Blackburn Rovers at St James' Park - and there is a post-match demonstration by some fans against chairman Freddy Shepherd and manager Glenn Roeder. SUNDAY: Roeder is summoned to St James' Park just before noon and the outcome is the parting of ways between the manager and the club. By mid-afternoon, news filters through that Roeder is no longer manager of Newcastle United. MONDAY: The Chronicle's Sam's The Man front page headline (above) is beamed out on Sky Television by 10am and goes around the world. TUESDAY: The Chronicle reports that Shepherd is ready to go to war with Bolton Wanderers over Allardyce about the tricky matter of compensation. WEDNESDAY: The Chronicle reveals that both Sven-Goran Eriksson and Gerard Houllier are interested in replacing Roeder. And that United would probably miss out on Steve Sidwell after Chelsea and Everton moved in on the Reading midfielder. We also reported former United skipper Bobby Moncur's backing for Allardyce. THURSDAY: The Chronicle said that United would unveil Allardyce in the middle of next week after a deal is rubber-stamped at a board meeting on Monday. FRIDAY: The Chronicle reported that a United delegation had made a hush-hush trip to Monte Carlo to talk to top European agent Mike Morris, who did a lot of deals with Allardyce in his time as manager of Bolton Wanderers. Chief operating officer Russell Cushing is spotted at the Central Station at the crack of dawn boarding a train for London and things start to hot up. SATURDAY: Pictures are revealed of Shepherd and Allardyce meeting at a top London hotel and there is now no doubt that Big Sam will be named as Newcastle United manager next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 He better work out, cause that's some compensation if not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Id love to see Speed back at the toon, 12m seems a aweful large sum of money though !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Well he hasn't, has he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 People talking about comp claims, he hasnt even signed the deal yet bluelaugh.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibble Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 It is a lot of money, but Owen (for instance) has picked up £5-6m per year for just a handful of games. Personally, I think its a bit strange that individual players can earn absolute bucketloads compared to the manager. The manager will have by far the biggest influence on the fortunes (or in our recent history, perpetual decline) of a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Yeah, we're REALLY talking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 It is a lot of money, but Owen (for instance) has picked up £5-6m per year for just a handful of games. Personally, I think its a bit strange that individual players can earn absolute bucketloads compared to the manager. The manager will have by far the biggest influence on the fortunes (or in our recent history, perpetual decline) of a team. OT: Whats the swap shop thing like, is it up and working, have you used it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheOrder Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I'm looking foward to at least being hard to beat next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I would love to see the amount of money we've thrown away in the past 5-6 season. Would be able to buy a whole new 1st team with it tbh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Aye Rocker, agree with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagerstedt Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I wonder what he was on at Bolton. He signed a 10-year contract in 99 when Bolton still was in the lower division, so I can imaging a bonus for taking them up plus a yearly pay rise. Still, can't be nowhere even near £3m per year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 If Sam delivers, then 12m is great value. I have always thought that we spend way to little on managers, given their relative effect on the performance of the team. My only concern, at this point, in regards to Allardyce is whether he is purely using Newcastle as a stepping-stone and as soon as a decent international squad offers him a job he'll be gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Is £3m a year for a manager that much these days? Sven was on about £5m with England wasnt he? What does that work out to be as a weekly wage? I bet Dyer will still be on more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 If Sam delivers, then 12m is great value. I have always thought that we spend way to little on managers, given their relative effect on the performance of the team. My only concern, at this point, in regards to Allardyce is whether he is purely using Newcastle as a stepping-stone and as soon as a decent international squad offers him a job he'll be gone. What England? Boat is missed now, and if they are going to sack McGinger they'd be doing in the next year as we've failed to qualify, if so we'll be getting SA's contract paid up, which by then would be at the least 3 years at £2-3m, big money to be wasting again (Sven payoff and McClaren's pay off nevermind what they paid to Boro) and unlike here if you make those kind of monumental finnancial cock ups you'll be sacked and replaced. I cant see England sacking SM anytime soon as long as we qualify, even if we under perform at 2008 they'll be reluctant to get rid unless the fans protest etc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Is £3m a year for a manager that much these days? Sven was on about £5m with England wasnt he? What does that work out to be as a weekly wage? I bet Dyer will still be on more. £5m per year is £100k per week, so £3m is about £55kish PS: This £12m deal includes a supposed payoff as well, if so SA could be getting £40kpw and the rest is money to Bolton if the payoff is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven_MB Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Id love to see Speed back at the toon, 12m seems a aweful large sum of money though !! It's 3 million a year, about £57, 000 a week, which less than what Given, Duff, Dyer, Emre, Owen and Martins earns, I figure if he improves them all by even just 10% then it is worth the money. Why are managers always so underpaid, You expect person with more responsibility and the biggest influence on success to have most wages, surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 £55k a week isn't that much really. As someone said the manager has a bigger influence over the team than any player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 £12m is defenitly worth the money. I beat we have a couple of players that earns more. but it´s on time we get a decent manager, so it will be worth every penny as I said. I really looking forward to he sign´s because then we and he can focus on the squad etc. Will also be intresting to see the structure on the backdoor staff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Freddy: Sam were gonna give you a £12m deal, thats a lot of money Sam you dont need bung money anymore. Sam: There's a player i want to sign from Sporting Mongolia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Is £3m a year for a manager that much these days? Sven was on about £5m with England wasnt he? What does that work out to be as a weekly wage? I bet Dyer will still be on more. It's about right for a top line manager and imo he's getting what he's worth. I would imagine only Fergie and Moaney are on more. I really beleive we have the best of all worlds with Sam and setting some of his weaknesses aside the TIMING is right for us and HIM. For Sam this will be the signature job of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 All these numbers seem high to me. It shows the world footy operates in when we start saying things like "£55k a week isn't that much really" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 All these numbers seem high to me. It shows the world footy operates in when we start saying things like "£55k a week isn't that much really" Welcome to the last decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 It is a lot of money, but Owen (for instance) has picked up £5-6m per year for just a handful of games. Personally, I think its a bit strange that individual players can earn absolute bucketloads compared to the manager. The manager will have by far the biggest influence on the fortunes (or in our recent history, perpetual decline) of a team. OT: Whats the swap shop thing like, is it up and working, have you used it? I signed up a few days, it seems quite good. It's his site i think. PS sorry if he's PMed you or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 It is a lot of money, but Owen (for instance) has picked up £5-6m per year for just a handful of games. Personally, I think its a bit strange that individual players can earn absolute bucketloads compared to the manager. The manager will have by far the biggest influence on the fortunes (or in our recent history, perpetual decline) of a team. OT: Whats the swap shop thing like, is it up and working, have you used it? I signed up a few days, it seems quite good. It's his site i think. PS sorry if he's PMed you or something. Aye i've just signed up as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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