Optimistic Nut Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 "Owen is leaving. That was the player's wish. It's a good match and it's also a good deal financially." - Beckenbauer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makemeacupoftea Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 17m, thats mental! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Apart from the good deal, the same thing will be said about our Owen in a few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wor jackie Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 i am hopeful that this deal will lessen the chances of our owen going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Unless they intended on fielding Owen in the holding-role, I don't see how they would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Unless they intended on fielding Owen in the holding-role, I don't see how they would. I think he is talking about when Ferguson promised 8 years ago that he would never have two players in his team with the name Owen, Surname or Forename. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I think he's probably talking about the absense of a money tree growing in the centre circle at OT. PS: I just realised Hargreaves is shit. I'll change my mind if the deal doesn't go thru tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I think he's probably talking about the absense of a money tree growing in the centre circle at OT. PS: I just realised Hargreaves is shit. I'll change my mind if the deal doesn't go thru tho I am certain they could afford to spend another £11m or so if they needed to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lee-T Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Was only a matter of time really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I just wonder where him and Carrick will fit in together? Can't see them complimenting each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I just wonder where him and Carrick will fit in together? Can't see them complimenting each other. I thought Carrick was more creative and Hargreaves more defensive like Sissoko and Alonso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Lol Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I just wonder where him and Carrick will fit in together? Can't see them complimenting each other. Competing with each other!! They won't work well together unless Fergie has a complete rethink on the midfield and uses 2 holding MF's as Wenger did with Vieira and Petit. There are then still Ronaldo and Giggs out wide but then, what about Scholes? I think Carrick will be spending a lot of next season on the bench, even if he did cost more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Will be a very good pair IMO. Similar to that of Gattuso and Pirlo. The real question is how will Scholes fit in. I suspect that Fergi planning a 433 tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I just wonder where him and Carrick will fit in together? Can't see them complimenting each other. I thought Carrick was more creative and Hargreaves more defensive like Sissoko and Alonso. Maybe he wants to have a the option of 433 for Europe. They are a little light-weight in the middle with Scholes and Carrick's attempts at tackling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Carrick to Newcastle for around £8m next summer I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Carrick's decent in possession and keeps things ticking over well in the midfield but I've never thought of him as someone who's going to unlock an organised defence with a bit of magic. Who knows, they may dovetail nicely and dominate the central midfield allowing Giggs and Ronaldo a bit more leeway to get forward? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Will be a very good pair IMO. Similar to that of Gattuso and Pirlo. The real question is how will Scholes fit in. I suspect that Fergi planning a 433 tbh. Scholes > Carrick If anyone's worried about their position it's going to be Carrick....Scholes isn't getting any younger but he's still undoubtedly one of the best midfielders in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Rooney Scholes Giggs Ronaldo Carrick Hargreaves Maybe? Hargreaves the battler, the chaser. Running around after every ball in the midfield, then either giving it to the two wingers or driving the team forward. Carrick to be the one that takes the ball from the defence and tries to make something happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Just looking at yesterday's team, they'll play the same formation, but just replace Fletcher with Hargreaves what an upgrade! The thing with yesterday's team was, they were already dominating the midfield. They just couldn't open up Chelsea's defence. Hargreaves gives them more options than Fletcher. He can tackle, he can pass, he has pace, he can shoot as well. He's also pretty good at set pieces. He has many attributes that Fergie can use to improve the way they play. It's not like they need to change their style of football. They played this formation against Milan (both games), so it shows that they're used to it (with Saha always being injured, they've had to become accustomed to this way of playing). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Hargreaves is an excellent defensive midfielder. He had Kaka in his pocket when Bayern played Milan. I dare say that only Liverpool and Chelsea have DMs of the same quality in the Prem (Mascherano and Makelele), and Makelele will be off in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 The conclusion is that they will be even stronger next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Fairly blatantly looking at a 4-3-3 tbh, they've abandoned the 4-4-2 for a while now. ---------Carrick---Hargreaves---------- --------------Scholes Ronaldo-----------------Rooney --------------New CF Get themselves a good focal point center forward ala Drogba and they'll be scary next season tbh. Hargreaves and Carrick will provide a solid engine room, while Scholes will be the man expected to get forward from CM and do the majority of the creating. Ronaldo will get at teams down the wing, while Rooney can drift in off the left and will benefit hugely from having a proper center forward to play off and take the burden of scoring goals off him, allowing him to play a bit deeper. Still have Giggs on the bench who can provide cover for nearly anyone in that attacking 6. The defence looks very good as well, and that Foster isn't bad at all. Replace Scholes with Kaka in 2 years and we may as well all top ourselves tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheOrder Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Carrick has been immense this season like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Carrick has been immense this season like. I'd agree, and I think adding Hargreaves will help him even more. Carrick isn't your all-action ballwinner type, and that's what they've lacked in midfield. It was particularly shown up in the Milan game where they desperately needed someone in there to throw themselves about and disrupt Milan's play. One of my Man U fan friends was getting a bit on Carrick's back about that game, saying that as the holding midfielder it's his job to get stuck in. Never seen that as been his game tbh, he's more the Pirlo of the CM. With Hargreaves to do the Gattusso job now I'd expect Man U to be very strong in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I think Hargreaves will basically just replace Fletcher (obviously not in the same role tho) .....Carrick...Scholes...Hargreaves Ronaldo...............................Giggs ..................Rooney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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