Is Big Sam still the right man for the job?

[OzzieMandias]

So that's a "yes", then?

[Mick]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=456321&in_page_id=1779

[Keefaz]

How much money will Newcastle stand to lose if Newcastle breached the employment contract? Will the pros outweigh the cons?

Economically, it appears not viable to have a change of manager.

 

Also, it is better for one to appear to be benevolent and not make big decisions that will be detrimental to one's popularity after a recent takeover.

 

In view of some of these factors, a practical and beneficial approach adopted will be to support Sam and see what improvements he may bring in within a certain period of time. Of course, prior to Sam's appointment, in business terms, Newcastle and Sam should and ought to have drawn up a decent proposal on the progression of Newcastle. Failure to meet that would be detrimental to Sam.

 

Howay, lads. At least make it a debate. This positivity's killing me.

 

Personal Rule:

1. Debate only when there is a an objective, hitherto, debate is pointless and a waste of time

2. Debate not for the sake of debating (waste of time... more meaningful things to do, brain cells could be better put into other matters)

 

I am amused by how people like to conjure up unnecessary debates in the forum and the manner of some of the debates are shallow, neither objective nor constructive.

If you like to argue, debate for the sake of debating, spend your brain juice in more meaningful stuffs where there can be individual progression rather than waste your time, gaining nothing in return (well maybe they will gain the false sense of superiority? But that is just deluding themselves).

 

 

Regards,

Ericz.

 

Christ. Lighten up, you hippy.

[Northern Monkey]

How much money will Newcastle stand to lose if Newcastle breached the employment contract? Will the pros outweigh the cons?

Economically, it appears not viable to have a change of manager.

 

Also, it is better for one to appear to be benevolent and not make big decisions that will be detrimental to one's popularity after a recent takeover.

 

In view of some of these factors, a practical and beneficial approach adopted will be to support Sam and see what improvements he may bring in within a certain period of time. Of course, prior to Sam's appointment, in business terms, Newcastle and Sam should and ought to have drawn up a decent proposal on the progression of Newcastle. Failure to meet that would be detrimental to Sam.

 

Howay, lads. At least make it a debate. This positivity's killing me.

 

Personal Rule:

1. Debate only when there is a an objective, hitherto, debate is pointless and a waste of time

2. Debate not for the sake of debating (waste of time... more meaningful things to do, brain cells could be better put into other matters)

 

I am amused by how people like to conjure up unnecessary debates in the forum and the manner of some of the debates are shallow, neither objective nor constructive.

If you like to argue, debate for the sake of debating, spend your brain juice in more meaningful stuffs where there can be individual progression rather than waste your time, gaining nothing in return (well maybe they will gain the false sense of superiority? But that is just deluding themselves).

 

 

Regards,

Ericz.

 

You don't get the concept of internet forums, do you?

 

Your superiority complex is made a mockery by your postings.

[Guest Guinness]

Of course he's still the right man, he's a good manager with a modern approach which is exactly what we need.

[Guest gggg]

Of course he is.

 

It would cost 12m to sack him anyway which would be sheer stupidity.

[Alberto2005]

Christ... can we go a day without somehow questioning the abilities of our manager nevermind a new one which has a great reputation in the english game.

[SAK]

Still the right man, lets give the guy a chance.

[Mowen]

We still need structures in place regardless of whether we've got 10s of millions to waste.

[Parky]

Utterly pointless thread. His team haven't even kicked a ball yet.

[Guest smoggeordie]

From the Sunday Sun

 

Sam Allardyce will have just one season to prove he is the man to realise Mike Ashley's £400 million dream of turning Newcastle into a world footballing superpower.

 

That is the figure that Ashley has earmarked for his United revolution as he expects to convince chairman Freddy Shepherd to sell his stake in the club when they meet this week.

 

In anticipation of pushing through a takeover worth £133 million, Ashley - through his PR advisors - has assured the newly-appointed Allardyce that his job is safe.

 

But other sources close to the publicity-shy billionaire (right) last night revealed that he is yet to be convinced that Allardyce can establish Newcastle as one of the biggest clubs on the planet.

 

The Sunday Sun has been told of the big-money, five-year path to greatness which Ashley has mapped out for the Magpies.

 

The sports retail tycoon has budgeted an incredible £270 MILLION for winning the Premiership within three years and challenging for the Champions League within five years.

 

And although Allardyce will be given £45 million to spend this summer, he will be expected to push for Champions League qualification next season . . .

 

Or Ashley is prepared to follow Roman Abramovich's lead by parting company with Allardyce - as Chelsea's sugar-daddy did with Claudio Ranieri - after one season.

 

"Mike has huge respect for what Sam Allardyce achieved with limited resources at Bolton, but I can't stress enough just how big he hopes - and expects - Newcastle to become," a source told the Sunday Sun.

 

"Is Allardyce capable of taking the club not just up to the next level but into a whole different ballpark? That's yet to be seen.

 

"Of course, Allardyce will have the chance to prove himself. But he won't be allowed to hang around doing it. Mike wants big progress, fast."

 

Meanwhile, Shepherd - still in hospital yesterday recovering from pneumonia and a collapsed lung - is widely thought to be ready to accept the offer of 100p per share which persuaded the Halls to sell Ashley their 41.6 per cent share of United.

 

But the Sunday Sun has learned just how easily the Newcastle chairman could launch a rival bid for the club.

 

With his current 29.8 per cent stake, Shepherd is already within touching distance of the 30 per cent threshold which would oblige him to make an offer to buy all other shares.

 

And I understand he can count on being able to purchase low-key ally Len Hatton's 3.88 per cent stake at any time.

 

If Shepherd then approached United's institutional investors - who own around 22 per cent of the club - with an offer in excess of 100p per share, he would almost boost his holding to well over 50 per cent and leave Ashley himself with little choice but to sell up.

 

However, the timing of Ashley's purchase of the Hall family's 41.6 per cent stake - coinciding with a health scare serious enough to have left those around Shepherd badly shaken - has left the chairman seemingly poorly equipped to resist the newcomer's assault.

[Parky]

From the Sunday Sun

 

Sam Allardyce will have just one season to prove he is the man to realise Mike Ashley's £400 million dream of turning Newcastle into a world footballing superpower.

 

That is the figure that Ashley has earmarked for his United revolution as he expects to convince chairman Freddy Shepherd to sell his stake in the club when they meet this week.

 

In anticipation of pushing through a takeover worth £133 million, Ashley - through his PR advisors - has assured the newly-appointed Allardyce that his job is safe.

 

But other sources close to the publicity-shy billionaire (right) last night revealed that he is yet to be convinced that Allardyce can establish Newcastle as one of the biggest clubs on the planet.

 

The Sunday Sun has been told of the big-money, five-year path to greatness which Ashley has mapped out for the Magpies.

 

The sports retail tycoon has budgeted an incredible £270 MILLION for winning the Premiership within three years and challenging for the Champions League within five years.

 

And although Allardyce will be given £45 million to spend this summer, he will be expected to push for Champions League qualification next season . . .

 

Or Ashley is prepared to follow Roman Abramovich's lead by parting company with Allardyce - as Chelsea's sugar-daddy did with Claudio Ranieri - after one season.

 

"Mike has huge respect for what Sam Allardyce achieved with limited resources at Bolton, but I can't stress enough just how big he hopes - and expects - Newcastle to become," a source told the Sunday Sun.

 

"Is Allardyce capable of taking the club not just up to the next level but into a whole different ballpark? That's yet to be seen.

 

"Of course, Allardyce will have the chance to prove himself. But he won't be allowed to hang around doing it. Mike wants big progress, fast."

 

Meanwhile, Shepherd - still in hospital yesterday recovering from pneumonia and a collapsed lung - is widely thought to be ready to accept the offer of 100p per share which persuaded the Halls to sell Ashley their 41.6 per cent share of United.

 

But the Sunday Sun has learned just how easily the Newcastle chairman could launch a rival bid for the club.

 

With his current 29.8 per cent stake, Shepherd is already within touching distance of the 30 per cent threshold which would oblige him to make an offer to buy all other shares.

 

And I understand he can count on being able to purchase low-key ally Len Hatton's 3.88 per cent stake at any time.

 

If Shepherd then approached United's institutional investors - who own around 22 per cent of the club - with an offer in excess of 100p per share, he would almost boost his holding to well over 50 per cent and leave Ashley himself with little choice but to sell up.

 

However, the timing of Ashley's purchase of the Hall family's 41.6 per cent stake - coinciding with a health scare serious enough to have left those around Shepherd badly shaken - has left the chairman seemingly poorly equipped to resist the newcomer's assault.

 

The first sentence is totally made up.

[Guest smoggeordie]

From the Sunday Sun?

[SUPERTOON]

Havent read the rest of this thread but in Sunday Mirror we are linked with Wenger and Mourinho.

[Nobody]

Havent read the rest of this thread but in Sunday Mirror we are linked with Wenger and Mourinho.

Mourinho as manager and Wenger as DoF? I'd take it!

[Guest Toon83]

The Sunday Sun is an absolute disgrace of a newspaper, nothing Neil Farrington (sp) writes is ever true 

[Nate]

The Mirror.

 

SAM ALLARDYCE will be given just one season to prove he is the man to lead reclusive billionaire Mike Ashley's proposed £400million Newcastle revolution.

 

Sunday Mirror Sport can reveal the former Bolton boss will find himself in the same "shape-up-or-ship-out" situation that faced Claudio Ranieri when Roman Abramovich bought Chelsea in 2003.

 

Ironically Jose Mourinho, who replaced Ranieri, will be one of the names on the short-list should Allardyce fail to make a dramatic impact, as will Arsenal's Arsene Wenger.

 

Ashley, now the largest Toon shareholder after buying Sir John Hall's 41.6 per cent stake, is "supremely confident" he will quickly pass the 50 per cent mark as his first step in taking complete control in a £133m takeover.

 

And the sportswear magnate plans to spend another £250m-plus on an ambitious five-year plan designed to make Newcastle Premiership champions by 2010 and serious Champions League contenders by 2012.

 

But new Magpies boss Allardyce, handed a three-year contract just 12 days ago, will be under pressure to finish in the European places - though he is set to get £45m to spend on players.

 

Sources close to Ashley's St James Holdings Limited share-buying vehicle warn he will be ruthless if Allardyce doesn't look like transforming Newcastle into a global brand.

 

The source said: "Ashley doesn't feel he will have any problem going above the 50 per cent mark. Sam Allardyce will get significant funds for next season should he gain full control.

 

"It is a results game and the manager will be judged by what he achieves in that department. Ashley wants the very best for Newcastle. He is putting in a vast amount of money and expects results."

 

[Optimistic Nut]

Could Shepherd really reject now?

 

We'd look the biggest laughing stock in football if he doesn't.

[Mick]

The Sunday Sun is an absolute disgrace of a newspaper, nothing Neil Farrington (sp) writes is ever true 

 

I agree about Thompson House in general, the only thing is that the same things are being reported at the same time in different papers, no smoke without fire.

[Mick]

Could Shepherd really reject now?

 

We'd look the biggest laughing stock in football if he doesn't.

 

I don't think that he can turn this down, too many supporters are against him.  He would be strung up if he knocked this offer back and we were struggling early next season, I'm starting to think that he's going and he'll know it.

[Optimistic Nut]

I meant does of course.

[Alberto2005]

The Mirror.

 

SAM ALLARDYCE will be given just one season to prove he is the man to lead reclusive billionaire Mike Ashley's proposed £400million Newcastle revolution.

 

Sunday Mirror Sport can reveal the former Bolton boss will find himself in the same "shape-up-or-ship-out" situation that faced Claudio Ranieri when Roman Abramovich bought Chelsea in 2003.

 

Ironically Jose Mourinho, who replaced Ranieri, will be one of the names on the short-list should Allardyce fail to make a dramatic impact, as will Arsenal's Arsene Wenger.

 

Ashley, now the largest Toon shareholder after buying Sir John Hall's 41.6 per cent stake, is "supremely confident" he will quickly pass the 50 per cent mark as his first step in taking complete control in a £133m takeover.

 

And the sportswear magnate plans to spend another £250m-plus on an ambitious five-year plan designed to make Newcastle Premiership champions by 2010 and serious Champions League contenders by 2012.

 

But new Magpies boss Allardyce, handed a three-year contract just 12 days ago, will be under pressure to finish in the European places - though he is set to get £45m to spend on players.

 

Sources close to Ashley's St James Holdings Limited share-buying vehicle warn he will be ruthless if Allardyce doesn't look like transforming Newcastle into a global brand.

 

The source said: "Ashley doesn't feel he will have any problem going above the 50 per cent mark. Sam Allardyce will get significant funds for next season should he gain full control.

 

"It is a results game and the manager will be judged by what he achieves in that department. Ashley wants the very best for Newcastle. He is putting in a vast amount of money and expects results."

 

Brian McNally.

[Jaehyun]

Could Shepherd really reject now?

 

We'd look the biggest laughing stock in football if he doesn't.

Never mind that, he'll be slaughtered if he does.

[Guest sittingontheball]

Someone should tell big Mike about Hitzfeld ....

[Keefaz]

See? Everyone that was quick to jump in and diss my thread: even CAshley thinks that Allardyce may not be the right man for the job.

 

I win!